2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?

Posted: 08-27-2007, 04:03 PM
I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.

Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.

Al


2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?


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JW
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Re: 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?
Posted: 08-27-2007, 04:19 PM
Since you are using Vista installing a fast 2GB lash drive or card and
configuring it for Ready Boost, which serves as a high speed cache drive for
your virtual memory, may be a lot less expensive solution.
"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e7t5d31d3g5a1qstsm4ebgt8mdnsgbi65k@4ax.com...
>I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
> only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
> and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.
>
> Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.
>
> Al
>
>
Richard Urban
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Re: 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?
Posted: 08-27-2007, 04:46 PM
Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.

You will still need the pagefile.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)


"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
> only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
> and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.
>
> Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.
>
> Al
>
>
JW
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Re: 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?
Posted: 08-27-2007, 05:26 PM
He will not need to use the page file until the programs/data required to be
kept in memory use up all of the extra 2GB in his system.
Alfred,
If you are running Vista 32 you will probably only get the benefit of a
little over 1GB of the extra memory you add. See the following:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us


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"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.
>
> You will still need the pagefile.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
>
> "Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e7t5d31d3g5a1qstsm4ebgt8mdnsgbi65k@4ax.com...
>>I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
>> only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
>> and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.
>>
>> Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>
Spirit
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Re: 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?
Posted: 08-27-2007, 06:48 PM
I have a Core Duo 2350 laptop with 2 gig and when I use an
almost 2 gig ReadyBoost Drive (its a pretty fast SanDisk) the
difference is noticeable especially as I open multiple programs
and several IE tabs. If you use a lot of RAM hungry programs,
such as PhotoShop or Databases, then you will notice the
difference with the extra RAM. Note if you have a 32 bit
version of Vista you will only be able to use 3.12 Gig total
of the 4. A FAST readyboost drive might be a good alternative.

http://www.grantgibson.co.uk/misc/readyboost/

http://www.activewin.com/reviews/har...adyboost.shtml

"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e7t5d31d3g5a1qstsm4ebgt8mdnsgbi65k@4ax.com...
>I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
> only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
> and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.
>
> Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.
>
> Al
>
>
Alfred Kaufmann
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Re: 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?
Posted: 08-27-2007, 08:32 PM
Thanks for the information everyone! I have Vista 64bit, an AM2
motherboard and an AMD X2 64 processor but I can't find this "memory
remap" option in my bios. Also from what I have been reading this
upgrade is best avoided. :-(

Al


On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:26:20 -0700, "JW" <JW@nospam.nspam> wrote:
>He will not need to use the page file until the programs/data required to be
>kept in memory use up all of the extra 2GB in his system.
>Alfred,
>If you are running Vista 32 you will probably only get the benefit of a
>little over 1GB of the extra memory you add. See the following:
>
>http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us
>
>
>.
>"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ePqmPnM6HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.
>>
>> You will still need the pagefile.
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Richard Urban
>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>
>>
>> "Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:e7t5d31d3g5a1qstsm4ebgt8mdnsgbi65k@4ax.com...
>>>I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
>>> only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
>>> and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.
>>>
>>> Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>>
>>
jabloomf1230
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Re: 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?
Posted: 08-27-2007, 11:23 PM
What's your brand and model of MB? It's new enough (AM2) and it should
have that option. If not, there may be a BIOS update for your MB that
adds that option to the BIOS setup.

The main problem with going to 4MB is that some of the earlier versions
of nVidia Vista graphics drivers did not work properly with SOME
graphics cards and 4 GB of system RAM. Else, there shouldn't be a
problem with Vista x64.

Alfred Kaufmann wrote:
> Thanks for the information everyone! I have Vista 64bit, an AM2
> motherboard and an AMD X2 64 processor but I can't find this "memory
> remap" option in my bios. Also from what I have been reading this
> upgrade is best avoided. :-(
>
> Al
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:26:20 -0700, "JW" <JW@nospam.nspam> wrote:
>
>> He will not need to use the page file until the programs/data required to be
>> kept in memory use up all of the extra 2GB in his system.
>> Alfred,
>> If you are running Vista 32 you will probably only get the benefit of a
>> little over 1GB of the extra memory you add. See the following:
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us
>>
>>
>> .
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ePqmPnM6HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.
>>>
>>> You will still need the pagefile.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>>
>>> "Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e7t5d31d3g5a1qstsm4ebgt8mdnsgbi65k@4ax.com...
>>>> I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
>>>> only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
>>>> and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.
>>>>
>>>> Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>>
Alfred Kaufmann
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Re: 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?
Posted: 08-28-2007, 01:50 AM
It is an Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard and the documentation reads
that it supports up to 8GB of ram. I do have their lastest bios
installed but their is no such option of memory remapping. They
advertise the motherboard for Vista so maybe they will have a fix with
their next bios update.

Al


On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:23:11 -0400, jabloomf1230
<jabloomf@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>What's your brand and model of MB? It's new enough (AM2) and it should
>have that option. If not, there may be a BIOS update for your MB that
>adds that option to the BIOS setup.
>
>The main problem with going to 4MB is that some of the earlier versions
>of nVidia Vista graphics drivers did not work properly with SOME
>graphics cards and 4 GB of system RAM. Else, there shouldn't be a
>problem with Vista x64.
>
>Alfred Kaufmann wrote:
>> Thanks for the information everyone! I have Vista 64bit, an AM2
>> motherboard and an AMD X2 64 processor but I can't find this "memory
>> remap" option in my bios. Also from what I have been reading this
>> upgrade is best avoided. :-(
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:26:20 -0700, "JW" <JW@nospam.nspam> wrote:
>>
>>> He will not need to use the page file until the programs/data required to be
>>> kept in memory use up all of the extra 2GB in his system.
>>> Alfred,
>>> If you are running Vista 32 you will probably only get the benefit of a
>>> little over 1GB of the extra memory you add. See the following:
>>>
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ePqmPnM6HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.
>>>>
>>>> You will still need the pagefile.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Richard Urban
>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e7t5d31d3g5a1qstsm4ebgt8mdnsgbi65k@4ax.com...
>>>>> I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it? The
>>>>> only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
>>>>> and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.
>>>>>
>>>>> Al
>>>>>
>>>>>
JW
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Re: 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?
Posted: 08-28-2007, 02:06 AM
The MOBO Bios may be coded not to show the option unless 4GB of memory is
installed.
The problem is you don't know unless you try upgrading to 4GB.
"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:div6d3hfocuj404q0fh2dndmglnlv16rg0@4ax.com...
> It is an Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard and the documentation reads
> that it supports up to 8GB of ram. I do have their lastest bios
> installed but their is no such option of memory remapping. They
> advertise the motherboard for Vista so maybe they will have a fix with
> their next bios update.
>
> Al
>
>
> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:23:11 -0400, jabloomf1230
> <jabloomf@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>What's your brand and model of MB? It's new enough (AM2) and it should
>>have that option. If not, there may be a BIOS update for your MB that
>>adds that option to the BIOS setup.
>>
>>The main problem with going to 4MB is that some of the earlier versions
>>of nVidia Vista graphics drivers did not work properly with SOME
>>graphics cards and 4 GB of system RAM. Else, there shouldn't be a
>>problem with Vista x64.
>>
>>Alfred Kaufmann wrote:
>>> Thanks for the information everyone! I have Vista 64bit, an AM2
>>> motherboard and an AMD X2 64 processor but I can't find this "memory
>>> remap" option in my bios. Also from what I have been reading this
>>> upgrade is best avoided. :-(
>>>
>>> Al
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:26:20 -0700, "JW" <JW@nospam.nspam> wrote:
>>>
>>>> He will not need to use the page file until the programs/data required
>>>> to be
>>>> kept in memory use up all of the extra 2GB in his system.
>>>> Alfred,
>>>> If you are running Vista 32 you will probably only get the benefit of a
>>>> little over 1GB of the extra memory you add. See the following:
>>>>
>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:ePqmPnM6HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> You will still need the pagefile.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:e7t5d31d3g5a1qstsm4ebgt8mdnsgbi65k@4ax.com...
>>>>>> I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it?
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
>>>>>> and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
Alfred Kaufmann
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Re: 2GB to 4GB, how much of an improvement?
Posted: 08-28-2007, 01:56 PM
This motherboard is "Vista Certified" and supports up to 8GB max.
Maybe when the extra memory is installed the "remap" is automatic. It
is a bit too expensive to buy the memory just to test this, so I won't
bother with this right now.

It seems you can't get a clear answer on the Asus support website
either. I was hoping to hear from people that have 4GB installed on
this motherboard with Vista 64bit but either they are not reading the
forum or there are none. :-(

Al


On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:06:14 -0700, "JW" <JW@nospam.nspam> wrote:
>The MOBO Bios may be coded not to show the option unless 4GB of memory is
>installed.
>The problem is you don't know unless you try upgrading to 4GB.
>"Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:div6d3hfocuj404q0fh2dndmglnlv16rg0@4ax.com.. .
>> It is an Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard and the documentation reads
>> that it supports up to 8GB of ram. I do have their lastest bios
>> installed but their is no such option of memory remapping. They
>> advertise the motherboard for Vista so maybe they will have a fix with
>> their next bios update.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 19:23:11 -0400, jabloomf1230
>> <jabloomf@nycap.rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>>What's your brand and model of MB? It's new enough (AM2) and it should
>>>have that option. If not, there may be a BIOS update for your MB that
>>>adds that option to the BIOS setup.
>>>
>>>The main problem with going to 4MB is that some of the earlier versions
>>>of nVidia Vista graphics drivers did not work properly with SOME
>>>graphics cards and 4 GB of system RAM. Else, there shouldn't be a
>>>problem with Vista x64.
>>>
>>>Alfred Kaufmann wrote:
>>>> Thanks for the information everyone! I have Vista 64bit, an AM2
>>>> motherboard and an AMD X2 64 processor but I can't find this "memory
>>>> remap" option in my bios. Also from what I have been reading this
>>>> upgrade is best avoided. :-(
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 10:26:20 -0700, "JW" <JW@nospam.nspam> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> He will not need to use the page file until the programs/data required
>>>>> to be
>>>>> kept in memory use up all of the extra 2GB in his system.
>>>>> Alfred,
>>>>> If you are running Vista 32 you will probably only get the benefit of a
>>>>> little over 1GB of the extra memory you add. See the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605/en-us
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ePqmPnM6HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Little to no improvement if you run "normal" applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will still need the pagefile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Alfred Kaufmann" <al_kaufmann@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:e7t5d31d3g5a1qstsm4ebgt8mdnsgbi65k@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> I am thinking of going to 4GB ram and I wonder if it is worth it?
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> only reason I am thinking of doing it is to turn off virtual memory
>>>>>>> and eliminate swapping on the hard drive.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please let me know your experience if you have done this upgrade.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Al
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
 
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