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Old 05-25-2008, 08:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
Default 2nd administrator account password probs preventing installations


I have Windows Home Premium 32-bit installed on a HP PC about 4 months
old.

__Background_(and_problem_1)_
Initially I had an admin account but that wouldn't lock - this was a
problem with my 11 year old son in the background! HP advised that this
was due to some corruption in the account settings. I therefore set up a
user account and another admin account (both of which did lock). I
wanted to install all software on the second admin account and delete
the first. But I realised I'd need to copy across emails, Outlook
settings, Firefox favourites etc. Since this would need a bit of
non-trivial internet research (any suggestions?) this was a job for
another time

__Problem_2_
I now want to upgrade my antivirus from AVG7.5 to AVG8. I can't, and it
seems that this is because I can't remember my password for the 2nd
admin account - really annoying, since I don't use many. In fact this
problem is now stopping me installing or deleting *any* software

What I've tried

1) Control panel stuff (e.g. manage other accounts): Logging into the
1st admin account won't allow me to reset/remove the password for the
second *admin* account without knowing the password to that account

2) Look at TechNet on Microsoft
They adviser running "net user administrator /active:yes" but that
doesn't work for me because it requires a password on the 2nd admin
account. A relevant article seems to be 'Enable and Disable the Built-in
Administrator Account'
(http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...3.mspx?pf=true)
But that's way beyond me; I don't understand how to change the xml file
shown to an automatic logon as "true" administrator - or indeed whether
this would enable me to remove the 2nd admin account. And I can't get
the alternative of using the MMC to work; the MMC is completely empty
for me.


2) Look at and act on
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/10...-password.html

Method One - says you can rest password on another admin account. Seems
to be the same method as 1 above, and therefore requires you to know the
password for that account(?)

Method Two -I think this method is about user accounts rather than
admin accounts. It usefully talks about the "*'Real Built-in
Administrator Account in Vista\"'
(http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67...account.html)*
and enabling this in safe mode, but again in relation to user accounts.
I *can't* get access to the "real admin account" since this seems to
require running something like "net user administrator /active:yes" *as
an administrator" from the command prompt. As soon as I try this it
wants the password for the 2nd admin account [image:
file:///C:/Users/HPPC%7E1/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif]

Method 3 - make boot disk with 3rd party utility is pretty radical. I
was desperate enough to try it, but got the message "Accessing physical
drive: Access in denied. Did not successfully update the MBR; continuing
...." then nothing else happens

Method 4 - use a password rest disk. Problem is that I didn't create
one and, presumably it's too late now as I don't remember the password
for the 2nd admin account.

Method 5: system restore. Problem is I'm asked for the password for the
2nd admin account when I try this.

__Next_steps_

Guys I'm pretty worried about this. I've tried booting onto safe mode,
but can't get anywhere. HP don't supply Vista CDs. Even if they did I'd
have to back up all data, emails etc, and would probably miss something.
And it looks as though I'll struggle to do a system recovery anyway
(destructive or not).

What's left?

Regards
Andrew


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Old 05-25-2008, 09:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Andrew,

Welcome to Vista Forums. arty:

I agree and removed Method Two. Don't know what I was thinking then
now.

You might give doing a System Restore using Method Two in this
tutorial.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/76...store-how.html

Since you do not have a Vista installation DVD, you may need to create
this recovery disk first to be able to run System Restore using Method
Two. Since you are locked out of your computer, you will probably need
to make it on another computer to use on yours.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/14...very-disc.html

Hope this helps,
Shawn


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