32-to-64 bit hardware change & Vista Upgrade

> The upgrade versions of Vista won't complete unless there is an eligible OS
> already installed. When going from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS with an
> upgrade version the normal procedure is to boot from the 64 bit DVD and
> start the install. During the install when you enter the product key the
> upgrade will look for an eligible OS already installed. If it doesn't see
> one the install won't proceed. If it does see one then a clean installation
> will be done. Vista is not like XP where you can insert a CD OS for an
> eligible OS. The OS has to be already installed. There is a way around this
> but it is not officially supported by Microsoft. Essentially it's this. Boot
> from the DVD and when you get to the point where you enter a key leave it
> blank.You will then be asked which version you wish to install. Make sure
> you pick the right version. Also make sure the option to activate Vista
> after the install is not ticked. Once Vista is installed boot into Vista
> then insert the DVD. Install it again this time entering the key and picking
> the upgrade option. Here is a link with detailed instructions.
>
> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "Corky1310" <Corky1310@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news4840D1C-3FFF-4A87-91AA-F2A85E127190@microsoft.com...

> > This is somewhat complicated, and I could use the advice of the community
> > before I go through with this hardware swap an upgrade from 32-64 bit
> > Vista.
> >
> > I was running XP Professional and upgraded Vista Home Premium (custom
> > installation) on a system with a motherboard running a Athlon 3200
> > processor.
> > I have the UPGRADE Version of Vista Home Premium.
> >
> > I have multiple hard drives and kept an intalled version of XP Pro
> > operational. (It came in very handy during the initial release of Vista
> > because of compatibility issues).
> >
> > Recently I had some problems with a Internet Explorer Security upgrade and
> > MS said I needed to reinstall Vista as the solution. Since I planned to
> > install a new Motherboard with a Athlon 64 X2 3800+, we agreed I should
> > just
> > wait. Now I have the new motherboard and processor and I am ready to go.
> > I
> > just ordered the Vista Home Premium 64 Bit Upgrade version, which should
> > be
> > delivered in a few days.
> >
> > What I have been able to learn on the knowledge base, tech articles and
> > the
> > community suggest the basic steps for the upgrade that applys to the above
> > is
> > a CLEAN CUSTOM installation as follows:
> >
> > 1. Back up my Vista 32 Bit installation and data by using Windows Easy
> > Transfer on the 32-Bit Vista Home Premium DVD. (Is it necessary to
> > remove
> > the 32-Bit Version of Vista afterwards?).
> >
> > 2. Swap the current 32-bit Motherboard with the new one containing new 64
> > X2 processor.
> >
> > 3. Set the boot drive to be the one on which XP Pro is installed. (Does
> > this matter and is there going to be a key issue since the hardware
> > changed?)?
> >
> > 4. Boot the new hardware from a Vista 64 bit Home Premium DVD [UPGRADE
> > VERSION] - Custom Installation.
> >
> > 5. Call MS to get a new key?? What Number do I call? Is this supported or
> > do I have to pay for it?
> >
> > 6. After the Vista Home Premium 64-bit installation completes, complete
> > the
> > transition by using Windows Easy Transfer to reload the application data
> > ,
> > etc.
> >
> > Is this right? Pros and Cons? What am I missing. I want this to go
> > smoothly and not to take a week to do because I missed something.
> > --
> > Corky

>

> Kerry:
>
> That was an excellent response. It answers many of my questions and makes
> it
> a lot simpler than the approach I was going to use.
>
> I am still open to hearing from other experts. A little research on this
> unusual hardware upgrade on the front end could save me days of time next
> week when I actually do it.
> --
> Corky
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>

>> The upgrade versions of Vista won't complete unless there is an eligible
>> OS
>> already installed. When going from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS with an
>> upgrade version the normal procedure is to boot from the 64 bit DVD and
>> start the install. During the install when you enter the product key the
>> upgrade will look for an eligible OS already installed. If it doesn't see
>> one the install won't proceed. If it does see one then a clean
>> installation
>> will be done. Vista is not like XP where you can insert a CD OS for an
>> eligible OS. The OS has to be already installed. There is a way around
>> this
>> but it is not officially supported by Microsoft. Essentially it's this.
>> Boot
>> from the DVD and when you get to the point where you enter a key leave it
>> blank.You will then be asked which version you wish to install. Make sure
>> you pick the right version. Also make sure the option to activate Vista
>> after the install is not ticked. Once Vista is installed boot into Vista
>> then insert the DVD. Install it again this time entering the key and
>> picking
>> the upgrade option. Here is a link with detailed instructions.
>>
>> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> "Corky1310" <Corky1310@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news4840D1C-3FFF-4A87-91AA-F2A85E127190@microsoft.com...

>> > This is somewhat complicated, and I could use the advice of the
>> > community
>> > before I go through with this hardware swap an upgrade from 32-64 bit
>> > Vista.
>> >
>> > I was running XP Professional and upgraded Vista Home Premium (custom
>> > installation) on a system with a motherboard running a Athlon 3200
>> > processor.
>> > I have the UPGRADE Version of Vista Home Premium.
>> >
>> > I have multiple hard drives and kept an intalled version of XP Pro
>> > operational. (It came in very handy during the initial release of Vista
>> > because of compatibility issues).
>> >
>> > Recently I had some problems with a Internet Explorer Security upgrade
>> > and
>> > MS said I needed to reinstall Vista as the solution. Since I planned
>> > to
>> > install a new Motherboard with a Athlon 64 X2 3800+, we agreed I should
>> > just
>> > wait. Now I have the new motherboard and processor and I am ready to
>> > go.
>> > I
>> > just ordered the Vista Home Premium 64 Bit Upgrade version, which
>> > should
>> > be
>> > delivered in a few days.
>> >
>> > What I have been able to learn on the knowledge base, tech articles and
>> > the
>> > community suggest the basic steps for the upgrade that applys to the
>> > above
>> > is
>> > a CLEAN CUSTOM installation as follows:
>> >
>> > 1. Back up my Vista 32 Bit installation and data by using Windows Easy
>> > Transfer on the 32-Bit Vista Home Premium DVD. (Is it necessary to
>> > remove
>> > the 32-Bit Version of Vista afterwards?).
>> >
>> > 2. Swap the current 32-bit Motherboard with the new one containing new
>> > 64
>> > X2 processor.
>> >
>> > 3. Set the boot drive to be the one on which XP Pro is installed.
>> > (Does
>> > this matter and is there going to be a key issue since the hardware
>> > changed?)?
>> >
>> > 4. Boot the new hardware from a Vista 64 bit Home Premium DVD [UPGRADE
>> > VERSION] - Custom Installation.
>> >
>> > 5. Call MS to get a new key?? What Number do I call? Is this supported
>> > or
>> > do I have to pay for it?
>> >
>> > 6. After the Vista Home Premium 64-bit installation completes, complete
>> > the
>> > transition by using Windows Easy Transfer to reload the application
>> > data
>> > ,
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > Is this right? Pros and Cons? What am I missing. I want this to go
>> > smoothly and not to take a week to do because I missed something.
>> > --
>> > Corky

>>

> Re-reading my answer I realised I missed a step. You would have to use the
> Easy Transfer if you want to transfer your settings and data if you use the
> method I described.
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> "Corky1310" <Corky1310@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:55D824AE-2353-400E-8C60-0BCB4C4CEB26@microsoft.com...

> > Kerry:
> >
> > That was an excellent response. It answers many of my questions and makes
> > it
> > a lot simpler than the approach I was going to use.
> >
> > I am still open to hearing from other experts. A little research on this
> > unusual hardware upgrade on the front end could save me days of time next
> > week when I actually do it.
> > --
> > Corky
> >
> >
> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:
> >

> >> The upgrade versions of Vista won't complete unless there is an eligible
> >> OS
> >> already installed. When going from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS with an
> >> upgrade version the normal procedure is to boot from the 64 bit DVD and
> >> start the install. During the install when you enter the product key the
> >> upgrade will look for an eligible OS already installed. If it doesn't see
> >> one the install won't proceed. If it does see one then a clean
> >> installation
> >> will be done. Vista is not like XP where you can insert a CD OS for an
> >> eligible OS. The OS has to be already installed. There is a way around
> >> this
> >> but it is not officially supported by Microsoft. Essentially it's this.
> >> Boot
> >> from the DVD and when you get to the point where you enter a key leave it
> >> blank.You will then be asked which version you wish to install. Make sure
> >> you pick the right version. Also make sure the option to activate Vista
> >> after the install is not ticked. Once Vista is installed boot into Vista
> >> then insert the DVD. Install it again this time entering the key and
> >> picking
> >> the upgrade option. Here is a link with detailed instructions.
> >>
> >> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp
> >>
> >> --
> >> Kerry Brown
> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca
> >>
> >>
> >> "Corky1310" <Corky1310@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news4840D1C-3FFF-4A87-91AA-F2A85E127190@microsoft.com...
> >> > This is somewhat complicated, and I could use the advice of the
> >> > community
> >> > before I go through with this hardware swap an upgrade from 32-64 bit
> >> > Vista.
> >> >
> >> > I was running XP Professional and upgraded Vista Home Premium (custom
> >> > installation) on a system with a motherboard running a Athlon 3200
> >> > processor.
> >> > I have the UPGRADE Version of Vista Home Premium.
> >> >
> >> > I have multiple hard drives and kept an intalled version of XP Pro
> >> > operational. (It came in very handy during the initial release of Vista
> >> > because of compatibility issues).
> >> >
> >> > Recently I had some problems with a Internet Explorer Security upgrade
> >> > and
> >> > MS said I needed to reinstall Vista as the solution. Since I planned
> >> > to
> >> > install a new Motherboard with a Athlon 64 X2 3800+, we agreed I should
> >> > just
> >> > wait. Now I have the new motherboard and processor and I am ready to
> >> > go.
> >> > I
> >> > just ordered the Vista Home Premium 64 Bit Upgrade version, which
> >> > should
> >> > be
> >> > delivered in a few days.
> >> >
> >> > What I have been able to learn on the knowledge base, tech articles and
> >> > the
> >> > community suggest the basic steps for the upgrade that applys to the
> >> > above
> >> > is
> >> > a CLEAN CUSTOM installation as follows:
> >> >
> >> > 1. Back up my Vista 32 Bit installation and data by using Windows Easy
> >> > Transfer on the 32-Bit Vista Home Premium DVD. (Is it necessary to
> >> > remove
> >> > the 32-Bit Version of Vista afterwards?).
> >> >
> >> > 2. Swap the current 32-bit Motherboard with the new one containing new
> >> > 64
> >> > X2 processor.
> >> >
> >> > 3. Set the boot drive to be the one on which XP Pro is installed.
> >> > (Does
> >> > this matter and is there going to be a key issue since the hardware
> >> > changed?)?
> >> >
> >> > 4. Boot the new hardware from a Vista 64 bit Home Premium DVD [UPGRADE
> >> > VERSION] - Custom Installation.
> >> >
> >> > 5. Call MS to get a new key?? What Number do I call? Is this supported
> >> > or
> >> > do I have to pay for it?
> >> >
> >> > 6. After the Vista Home Premium 64-bit installation completes, complete
> >> > the
> >> > transition by using Windows Easy Transfer to reload the application
> >> > data
> >> > ,
> >> > etc.
> >> >
> >> > Is this right? Pros and Cons? What am I missing. I want this to go
> >> > smoothly and not to take a week to do because I missed something.
> >> > --
> >> > Corky
> >>

>

> Yes, and my understanding is that I need to do that from the 32-bit DVD
> and
> not the 64-bit DVD. Is that correct?
> --
> Corky
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>

>> Re-reading my answer I realised I missed a step. You would have to use
>> the
>> Easy Transfer if you want to transfer your settings and data if you use
>> the
>> method I described.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> "Corky1310" <Corky1310@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:55D824AE-2353-400E-8C60-0BCB4C4CEB26@microsoft.com...

>> > Kerry:
>> >
>> > That was an excellent response. It answers many of my questions and
>> > makes
>> > it
>> > a lot simpler than the approach I was going to use.
>> >
>> > I am still open to hearing from other experts. A little research on
>> > this
>> > unusual hardware upgrade on the front end could save me days of time
>> > next
>> > week when I actually do it.
>> > --
>> > Corky
>> >
>> >
>> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>> >
>> >> The upgrade versions of Vista won't complete unless there is an
>> >> eligible
>> >> OS
>> >> already installed. When going from a 32 bit OS to a 64 bit OS with an
>> >> upgrade version the normal procedure is to boot from the 64 bit DVD
>> >> and
>> >> start the install. During the install when you enter the product key
>> >> the
>> >> upgrade will look for an eligible OS already installed. If it doesn't
>> >> see
>> >> one the install won't proceed. If it does see one then a clean
>> >> installation
>> >> will be done. Vista is not like XP where you can insert a CD OS for an
>> >> eligible OS. The OS has to be already installed. There is a way around
>> >> this
>> >> but it is not officially supported by Microsoft. Essentially it's
>> >> this.
>> >> Boot
>> >> from the DVD and when you get to the point where you enter a key leave
>> >> it
>> >> blank.You will then be asked which version you wish to install. Make
>> >> sure
>> >> you pick the right version. Also make sure the option to activate
>> >> Vista
>> >> after the install is not ticked. Once Vista is installed boot into
>> >> Vista
>> >> then insert the DVD. Install it again this time entering the key and
>> >> picking
>> >> the upgrade option. Here is a link with detailed instructions.
>> >>
>> >> http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...rade_clean.asp
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Kerry Brown
>> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Corky1310" <Corky1310@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news4840D1C-3FFF-4A87-91AA-F2A85E127190@microsoft.com...
>> >> > This is somewhat complicated, and I could use the advice of the
>> >> > community
>> >> > before I go through with this hardware swap an upgrade from 32-64
>> >> > bit
>> >> > Vista.
>> >> >
>> >> > I was running XP Professional and upgraded Vista Home Premium
>> >> > (custom
>> >> > installation) on a system with a motherboard running a Athlon 3200
>> >> > processor.
>> >> > I have the UPGRADE Version of Vista Home Premium.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have multiple hard drives and kept an intalled version of XP Pro
>> >> > operational. (It came in very handy during the initial release of
>> >> > Vista
>> >> > because of compatibility issues).
>> >> >
>> >> > Recently I had some problems with a Internet Explorer Security
>> >> > upgrade
>> >> > and
>> >> > MS said I needed to reinstall Vista as the solution. Since I
>> >> > planned
>> >> > to
>> >> > install a new Motherboard with a Athlon 64 X2 3800+, we agreed I
>> >> > should
>> >> > just
>> >> > wait. Now I have the new motherboard and processor and I am ready
>> >> > to
>> >> > go.
>> >> > I
>> >> > just ordered the Vista Home Premium 64 Bit Upgrade version, which
>> >> > should
>> >> > be
>> >> > delivered in a few days.
>> >> >
>> >> > What I have been able to learn on the knowledge base, tech articles
>> >> > and
>> >> > the
>> >> > community suggest the basic steps for the upgrade that applys to the
>> >> > above
>> >> > is
>> >> > a CLEAN CUSTOM installation as follows:
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. Back up my Vista 32 Bit installation and data by using Windows
>> >> > Easy
>> >> > Transfer on the 32-Bit Vista Home Premium DVD. (Is it necessary to
>> >> > remove
>> >> > the 32-Bit Version of Vista afterwards?).
>> >> >
>> >> > 2. Swap the current 32-bit Motherboard with the new one containing
>> >> > new
>> >> > 64
>> >> > X2 processor.
>> >> >
>> >> > 3. Set the boot drive to be the one on which XP Pro is installed.
>> >> > (Does
>> >> > this matter and is there going to be a key issue since the hardware
>> >> > changed?)?
>> >> >
>> >> > 4. Boot the new hardware from a Vista 64 bit Home Premium DVD
>> >> > [UPGRADE
>> >> > VERSION] - Custom Installation.
>> >> >
>> >> > 5. Call MS to get a new key?? What Number do I call? Is this
>> >> > supported
>> >> > or
>> >> > do I have to pay for it?
>> >> >
>> >> > 6. After the Vista Home Premium 64-bit installation completes,
>> >> > complete
>> >> > the
>> >> > transition by using Windows Easy Transfer to reload the application
>> >> > data
>> >> > ,
>> >> > etc.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is this right? Pros and Cons? What am I missing. I want this to
>> >> > go
>> >> > smoothly and not to take a week to do because I missed something.
>> >> > --
>> >> > Corky
>> >>

>>