5728 on Inspiron 6400, 2ghz, 1gig ram...

>
> "GrahamBookman" <upshallg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:BE24A0ED-364A-492E-81B0-4E01F08A1CE9@microsoft.com...

>> Got sick of waiting for RC1 DVD to arrive, so downloaded 5728, saved it
>> to a directory on my windows C: XP partition, used magiciso to unpack the
>> files onto the C: drive, ran setup and told it to install to V: drive, it
>> gave me the usual message about windows.old being created. Dual boot was
>> retained, big sigh of relief as I had problems there with beta 2.
>> Reinstalled office 2007, then techrelease for same, and other software.
>>
>> Everything appears to be working very well, the best thing is that aero
>> is finally working on the intel chipset 945gm, totally smoother than
>> using the generic WDDM driver that came with beta 2..
>>
>> The speed up compared to beta 2 is very noticeable, launch times, close
>> down and program operation speed is fantastic!!!! Now I just have to
>> decide whether to hose UAC or just accept it as part of the necessary
>> brave new vista world
>>
>> Finally a big thank you to all the regular posters here, whose patience
>> and advice I have greatly admired and appreciated over the past three
>> months. I feel that I now know a lot about vista installation on various
>> machines and feel very confident in the unofficial support role I am sure
>> to have at work and with friends over the next two years

>
> I know UAC can be a pain, but its there for a reason and I think you
> should accept it as part of the OS. There's no point in MS trying to help
> secure customers computers if they are just going to disable that
> security.
> I find that I have got used to it now and I don't realise when I am doing
> those single clicks, it just happens. Its not like every day you will be
> doing actions which require acceptance of UAC. Yes you have to do it
> quite a bit when installing new programs, but once you are settled and got
> the OS working the way you want its not going to be a regular occurance.

> Maybe for you, but happens at startup every time to update the AVG A-V
> files. Total pain. Four popups at start-up for that, more for other
> programs that check for updates, etc.
>

> Make sure you complain to the creators of the software you are experiencing problems with.
> The more complaints they receive the sooner they will consider updating their programs for
> Vista compatibilty.
>
> When you think about it why do all these programs need system level access? Every one of them
> is a possible vector for malware infections. If they had been coded properly in the first
> place they would work fine with Vista.
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> John Barnes wrote:

>> Maybe for you, but happens at startup every time to update the AVG A-V
>> files. Total pain. Four popups at start-up for that, more for other
>> programs that check for updates, etc.
>>

>
>

> I would think that an AV needs some sort of system level
> access. Windows Defender in real-time protection mode +
> UAC, has got to be one of the most aggravating computer
> experiences I have ever encountered. YMMV, of course.
>
> -Michael
>
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:eUVoGT%233GHA.1588@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Make sure you complain to the creators of the software you are
>> experiencing problems with. The more complaints they receive the
>> sooner they will consider updating their programs for Vista
>> compatibilty. When you think about it why do all these programs need
>> system level
>> access? Every one of them is a possible vector for malware
>> infections. If they had been coded properly in the first place they
>> would work fine with Vista. --
>> Kerry
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> John Barnes wrote:

>>> Maybe for you, but happens at startup every time to update the AVG
>>> A-V files. Total pain. Four popups at start-up for that, more for
>>> other programs that check for updates, etc.

>
> "GrahamBookman" <upshallg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:BE24A0ED-364A-492E-81B0-4E01F08A1CE9@microsoft.com...

>> Got sick of waiting for RC1 DVD to arrive, so downloaded 5728, saved it
>> to a directory on my windows C: XP partition, used magiciso to unpack the
>> files onto the C: drive, ran setup and told it to install to V: drive, it
>> gave me the usual message about windows.old being created. Dual boot was
>> retained, big sigh of relief as I had problems there with beta 2.
>> Reinstalled office 2007, then techrelease for same, and other software.
>>
>> Everything appears to be working very well, the best thing is that aero
>> is finally working on the intel chipset 945gm, totally smoother than
>> using the generic WDDM driver that came with beta 2..
>>
>> The speed up compared to beta 2 is very noticeable, launch times, close
>> down and program operation speed is fantastic!!!! Now I just have to
>> decide whether to hose UAC or just accept it as part of the necessary
>> brave new vista world
>>
>> Finally a big thank you to all the regular posters here, whose patience
>> and advice I have greatly admired and appreciated over the past three
>> months. I feel that I now know a lot about vista installation on various
>> machines and feel very confident in the unofficial support role I am sure
>> to have at work and with friends over the next two years

>
> I know UAC can be a pain, but its there for a reason and I think you
> should accept it as part of the OS. There's no point in MS trying to help
> secure customers computers if they are just going to disable that
> security.
> I find that I have got used to it now and I don't realise when I am doing
> those single clicks, it just happens. Its not like every day you will be
> doing actions which require acceptance of UAC. Yes you have to do it
> quite a bit when installing new programs, but once you are settled and got
> the OS working the way you want its not going to be a regular occurance.

> Heh, heh, heh... you said it yourself... and I quote: " I find that I have
> got used to it now and I don't realise when I am doing those single
> clicks, it just happens."
>
> Hmmm... if one doesn't read the UAC dlg box when it pops up, and one just
> clicks on the dlg box without realizing what it's saying, then one is not
> using UAC in the manner in which it is intended to be used.
>
> UAC: "Hey, you wanna run Control Panel?"
>
> Me: "Yeah, sure..." Click!
>
> UAC: "Hey, you wanna install this trojan virus?"
>
> Me: "Yeah, sure..." Click!
>
> Oops...
>
> Lang
>
>

> Heh, heh, heh... you said it yourself... and I quote: " I find that I have
> got used to it now and I don't realise when I am doing those single
> clicks, it just happens."
>
> Hmmm... if one doesn't read the UAC dlg box when it pops up, and one just
> clicks on the dlg box without realizing what it's saying, then one is not
> using UAC in the manner in which it is intended to be used.
>
> UAC: "Hey, you wanna run Control Panel?"
>
> Me: "Yeah, sure..." Click!
>
> UAC: "Hey, you wanna install this trojan virus?"
>
> Me: "Yeah, sure..." Click!

> Heh, heh, heh... you said it yourself... and I quote: " I find that I have
> got used to it now and I don't realise when I am doing those single
> clicks, it just happens."
>
> Hmmm... if one doesn't read the UAC dlg box when it pops up, and one just
> clicks on the dlg box without realizing what it's saying, then one is not
> using UAC in the manner in which it is intended to be used.
>
> UAC: "Hey, you wanna run Control Panel?"
>
> Me: "Yeah, sure..." Click!
>
> UAC: "Hey, you wanna install this trojan virus?"
>
> Me: "Yeah, sure..." Click!
>
> Oops...