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Old 07-03-2007, 04:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
Default Access denied TO XP-partition folders from Vista on dual-boot machine

Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
its head.

Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
(although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
problem.

I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
can't see anything that would account for this behavior.

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????

Thanks in advance.

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Old 07-03-2007, 05:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
Default Re: Access denied TO XP-partition folders from Vista on dual-boot machine

Have you assign permissions in the Security tab? This search result may help,

Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm


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Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
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Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
its head.

Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
(although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
problem.

I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
can't see anything that would account for this behavior.

Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????

Thanks in advance.

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Old 07-03-2007, 09:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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On Jul 3, 1:01 pm, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <nore...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Quote:
> Have you assign permissions in the Security tab?


Tried the cacls--looks alright to me but something is very strange
here. From within these folders read-only is set for some files and
even if I remove it globally for a folder, it reappears. Also, and
even more strangely, there is NO security tab on any folders anywhere
when they are viewed from within XP!

This search result may help,
Quote:
>
> Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote in messagenews:1183479317.260612.123260@e9g2000prf.go oglegroups.com...
>
> Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
> thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
> point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
> its head.
>
> Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
> get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
> problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
> (although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
> Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
> machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
> problem.
>
> I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
> can't see anything that would account for this behavior.
>
> Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????
>
> Thanks in advance.

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Old 07-03-2007, 09:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
Default Re: Access denied TO XP-partition folders from Vista on dual-boot machine

I turned off simple-file sharing in XP but that doesn't help--but, of
course, it puts the security tab back in XP!

On Jul 3, 5:08 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
Quote:
> On Jul 3, 1:01 pm, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <nore...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
Quote:
> > Have you assign permissions in the Security tab?
>
> Tried the cacls--looks alright to me but something is very strange
> here. From within these folders read-only is set for some files and
> even if I remove it globally for a folder, it reappears. Also, and
> even more strangely, there is NO security tab on any folders anywhere
> when they are viewed from within XP!
>
> This search result may help,
>
>
>
>
>
Quote:
> > Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> > http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
Quote:
> > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote in messagenews:1183479317.260612.123260@e9g2000prf.go oglegroups.com...
>
Quote:
> > Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
> > thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
> > point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
> > its head.
>
Quote:
> > Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
> > get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
> > problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
> > (although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
> > Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
> > machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
> > problem.
>
Quote:
> > I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
> > can't see anything that would account for this behavior.
>
Quote:
> > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????
>
Quote:
> > Thanks in advance.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Old 07-03-2007, 10:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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icacls yields the following for a folder on the XP machine:

e:\program files\endnote BUILTIN\UsersI)(RX)
BUILTIN\UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(GR,GE)
BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(M)
BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(M)
BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(F)
BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(F)
NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
No mapping between account names and security
IDs was done.
(I)(F)
CREATOR OWNERI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)


On Jul 3, 5:46 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
Quote:
> I turned off simple-file sharing in XP but that doesn't help--but, of
> course, it puts the security tab back in XP!
>
> On Jul 3, 5:08 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
Quote:
> > On Jul 3, 1:01 pm, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <nore...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > Have you assign permissions in the Security tab?
>
Quote:
> > Tried the cacls--looks alright to me but something is very strange
> > here. From within these folders read-only is set for some files and
> > even if I remove it globally for a folder, it reappears. Also, and
> > even more strangely, there is NO security tab on any folders anywhere
> > when they are viewed from within XP!
>
Quote:
> > This search result may help,
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> > > http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com<paque...@uwo.ca> wrote in messagenews:1183479317.260612.123260@e9g2000prf.go oglegroups.com...
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
> > > thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
> > > point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
> > > its head.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
> > > get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
> > > problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
> > > (although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
> > > Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
> > > machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
> > > problem.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
> > > can't see anything that would account for this behavior.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > Thanks in advance.- Hide quoted text -
>
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> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Old 07-03-2007, 11:30 PM   #6 (permalink)
Default Re: Access denied TO XP-partition folders from Vista on dual-boot machine

Okay--I've discovered that for an application to write from Vista to
any of the folders on the XP partition it must be logged on as
Administrator in Vista. If I start any application explicitly as
administrator in Vista, it can then write to folders there. My
problem is I want to give MirrorFolder service administrator privilege
so it can mirror to folders on the XP partition So how can I give
MirrorFolder blanket Administrator privilege in Vista???

I tried resetting MirrorFolder service log on as Administrator but no
luck.

On Jul 3, 6:41 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
Quote:
> icacls yields the following for a folder on the XP machine:
>
> e:\program files\endnote BUILTIN\UsersI)(RX)
> BUILTIN\UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(GR,GE)
> BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(M)
> BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(M)
> BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(F)
> BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(F)
> NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
> No mapping between account names and security
> IDs was done.
> (I)(F)
> CREATOR OWNERI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
>
> On Jul 3, 5:46 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
Quote:
> > I turned off simple-file sharing in XP but that doesn't help--but, of
> > course, it puts the security tab back in XP!
>
Quote:
> > On Jul 3, 5:08 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > On Jul 3, 1:01 pm, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <nore...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > Have you assign permissions in the Security tab?
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > Tried the cacls--looks alright to me but something is very strange
> > > here. From within these folders read-only is set for some files and
> > > even if I remove it globally for a folder, it reappears. Also, and
> > > even more strangely, there is NO security tab on any folders anywhere
> > > when they are viewed from within XP!
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > This search result may help,
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> > > > http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com<paque...@uwo.ca> wrote in messagenews:1183479317.260612.123260@e9g2000prf.go oglegroups.com...
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
> > > > thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
> > > > point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
> > > > its head.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
> > > > get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
> > > > problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
> > > > (although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
> > > > Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
> > > > machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
> > > > problem.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
> > > > can't see anything that would account for this behavior.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > Thanks in advance.- Hide quoted text -
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
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> > - Show quoted text -

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Old 07-04-2007, 12:16 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Okay--I've got it. I set the MirrorFolder application to always run
at elevated UAC and it now has no problem writing to folders on the XP
partition!

See:

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true

On Jul 3, 7:30 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
Quote:
> Okay--I've discovered that for an application to write from Vista to
> any of the folders on the XP partition it must be logged on as
> Administrator in Vista. If I start any application explicitly as
> administrator in Vista, it can then write to folders there. My
> problem is I want to give MirrorFolder service administrator privilege
> so it can mirror to folders on the XP partition So how can I give
> MirrorFolder blanket Administrator privilege in Vista???
>
> I tried resetting MirrorFolder service log on as Administrator but no
> luck.
>
> On Jul 3, 6:41 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
Quote:
> > icacls yields the following for a folder on the XP machine:
>
Quote:
> > e:\program files\endnote BUILTIN\UsersI)(RX)
> > BUILTIN\UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(GR,GE)
> > BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(M)
> > BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(M)
> > BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(F)
> > BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
> > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(F)
> > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
> > No mapping between account names and security
> > IDs was done.
> > (I)(F)
> > CREATOR OWNERI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
>
Quote:
> > On Jul 3, 5:46 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > I turned off simple-file sharing in XP but that doesn't help--but, of
> > > course, it puts the security tab back in XP!
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > On Jul 3, 5:08 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > On Jul 3, 1:01 pm, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <nore...@hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Have you assign permissions in the Security tab?
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > Tried the cacls--looks alright to me but something is very strange
> > > > here. From within these folders read-only is set for some files and
> > > > even if I remove it globally for a folder, it reappears. Also, and
> > > > even more strangely, there is NO security tab on any folders anywhere
> > > > when they are viewed from within XP!
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > This search result may help,
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> > > > > http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com<paque...@uwo.ca> wrote in messagenews:1183479317.260612.123260@e9g2000prf.go oglegroups.com...
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
> > > > > thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
> > > > > point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
> > > > > its head.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
> > > > > get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
> > > > > problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
> > > > > (although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
> > > > > Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
> > > > > machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
> > > > > problem.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
> > > > > can't see anything that would account for this behavior.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Thanks in advance.- Hide quoted text -
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > - Show quoted text -

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Old 07-04-2007, 02:30 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thank you for the update.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
<paquette@uwo.ca> wrote in message news:1183508196.341933.181350@n60g2000hse.googlegr oups.com...
Okay--I've got it. I set the MirrorFolder application to always run
at elevated UAC and it now has no problem writing to folders on the XP
partition!

See:

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window....mspx?mfr=true

On Jul 3, 7:30 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
Quote:
> Okay--I've discovered that for an application to write from Vista to
> any of the folders on the XP partition it must be logged on as
> Administrator in Vista. If I start any application explicitly as
> administrator in Vista, it can then write to folders there. My
> problem is I want to give MirrorFolder service administrator privilege
> so it can mirror to folders on the XP partition So how can I give
> MirrorFolder blanket Administrator privilege in Vista???
>
> I tried resetting MirrorFolder service log on as Administrator but no
> luck.
>
> On Jul 3, 6:41 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
Quote:
> > icacls yields the following for a folder on the XP machine:
>
Quote:
> > e:\program files\endnote BUILTIN\UsersI)(RX)
> > BUILTIN\UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(GR,GE)
> > BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(M)
> > BUILTIN\Power UsersI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(M)
> > BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(F)
> > BUILTIN\AdministratorsI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
> > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(F)
> > NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
> > No mapping between account names and security
> > IDs was done.
> > (I)(F)
> > CREATOR OWNERI)(OI)(CI)(IO)(F)
>
Quote:
> > On Jul 3, 5:46 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > I turned off simple-file sharing in XP but that doesn't help--but, of
> > > course, it puts the security tab back in XP!
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > On Jul 3, 5:08 pm, "no_spam_paque...@uwo.ca" <paque...@uwo.ca> wrote:
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > On Jul 3, 1:01 pm, "Robert L [MVP - Networking]" <nore...@hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Have you assign permissions in the Security tab?
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > Tried the cacls--looks alright to me but something is very strange
> > > > here. From within these folders read-only is set for some files and
> > > > even if I remove it globally for a folder, it reappears. Also, and
> > > > even more strangely, there is NO security tab on any folders anywhere
> > > > when they are viewed from within XP!
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > This search result may help,
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Vista Permission IssuesPost Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 5:14 am Post subject: How to: check permissions using Vista icacls command, Reply with quote . ...
> > > > > http://www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistapermission.htm
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
> > > > > Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting onhttp://www.ChicagoTech.net
> > > > > How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access onhttp://www.HowToNetworking.com<paque...@uwo.ca> wrote in messagenews:1183479317.260612.123260@e9g2000prf.go oglegroups.com...
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Just when, thanks to EasyBCD and wonderful support on their forum, I
> > > > > thought I was near to resolution of the infamous loss-of-Vista-restore-
> > > > > point problem, a new, unexpected, and really nasty problem has reared
> > > > > its head.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Whenever I try to write from Vista to a folder on the XP partition I
> > > > > get an access-denied error. Now I wouldn't have been surprised at
> > > > > problems writing from XP to folders on the Vista system partition
> > > > > (although I haven't tried that yet and I have no problem accessing
> > > > > Vista folders (not junction points) by network shares from other
> > > > > machines running XP). But I really am surprised at this access
> > > > > problem.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > I checked the most obvious things, permissions, read-only, etc. but I
> > > > > can't see anything that would account for this behavior.
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Does anyone have any idea why this is happening and how to fix it????
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > > Thanks in advance.- Hide quoted text -
>
Quote:
Quote:
> > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
Quote:
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