Activate WinXP

Posted: 09-04-2003, 11:19 PM
Why is it necessary to call in for activation everytime after the first
call in?

I was told this when I called do to my stupidity of activating (twice)
before I had a stable system.
I was installing a 160gig HD without a ATA/133 Controller and it worked
(for a week) then went south.
I installed the controller and thought I was stable but a bad printer
driver scrambled the OS and my brain.
I now have what I believe to be a stable system (knock on wood) and had
to call in to register and they told me I now need to call in everytime
I reinstall my OS no more activation over the internet, why is this?


I understand copyright protection and I don't have a problem with that
but this is an annoying feature if in 3-6 months I want to upgrade my MB
or something else.

My question; Is this information true? (activation info not my
stupidity)

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Perdita X. Dream
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Re: Activate WinXP
Posted: 09-05-2003, 12:01 AM
joe wrote:
> Why is it necessary to call in for activation everytime after the
> first call in?
It is intended to stop people like you from giving it away to your friends.
If you don't steal software then you have nothing to worry about so shut up.

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Harry Ohrn
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Re: Activate WinXP
Posted: 09-05-2003, 12:06 AM
Check here for info about Windows Product Activation
http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
If you keep swapping out hardware you may likely have to call. It takes a
few minutes to do this but is part of the price one pays for being in the
very small minority of computer users who like to change systems components
or reinstall their OS on a regular basis. Hey I'm one of those too. But on
the upside it takes much less time to call and activate than it takes to
swap out a motherboard. In the grand scheme of life events it really is only
a minor annoyance . ;-)
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"joe" <rockimoto@goodnetscape.com> wrote in message
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> Why is it necessary to call in for activation everytime after the first
> call in?
>
> I was told this when I called do to my stupidity of activating (twice)
> before I had a stable system.
> I was installing a 160gig HD without a ATA/133 Controller and it worked
> (for a week) then went south.
> I installed the controller and thought I was stable but a bad printer
> driver scrambled the OS and my brain.
> I now have what I believe to be a stable system (knock on wood) and had
> to call in to register and they told me I now need to call in everytime
> I reinstall my OS no more activation over the internet, why is this?
>
>
> I understand copyright protection and I don't have a problem with that
> but this is an annoying feature if in 3-6 months I want to upgrade my MB
> or something else.
>
> My question; Is this information true? (activation info not my
> stupidity)
>

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joe
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Re: Activate WinXP
Posted: 09-05-2003, 02:04 PM
Perdita X. Dream wrote:
> joe wrote:
>> Why is it necessary to call in for activation everytime after the
>> first call in?
>
> It is intended to stop people like you from giving it away to your
> friends. If you don't steal software then you have nothing to worry
> about so shut up.
Apparently my stupidity is topped by your inability to read an entire
post. I am not giving it away to my friends, I was overzealous in
activating the OS thinking that I had a stable enivornment, I did not
and now I am being accused of a crime that I did NOT nor contimplate
doing. I stand humbled in your almighty and all knowing presence.

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Harry Ohrn
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Posted: 09-05-2003, 03:20 PM
"joe" <rockimoto@goodnetscape.com> wrote in message
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> Harry Ohrn wrote:
> > Check here for info about Windows Product Activation
> > http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
> > If you keep swapping out hardware you may likely have to call. It
> > takes a few minutes to do this but is part of the price one pays for
> > being in the very small minority of computer users who like to change
> > systems components or reinstall their OS on a regular basis. Hey I'm
> > one of those too. But on the upside it takes much less time to call
> > and activate than it takes to swap out a motherboard. In the grand
> > scheme of life events it really is only a minor annoyance . ;-)
> >
>
> First off I just realized that one could infer from my email address
> that I am trolling, for that I apologize it is only a small measure to
> stop unwanted spam. If necessary reading my headers will show that I use
> OE. I do not have mozilla in any form on my machine.
>
> I have read the url you posted but it talks about 120 days and I believe
> (unless I missed it) nothing about calling in now everytime I need to
> activate after the first call in. I agree in the grand scheme of
> existance it is nothing more than a pebble but non the less it is a
> pebble! (most of the time I am barefoot ;-) )
>
>
>
Joe I wasn't thinking you were trolling :-)
I haven't heard of it being mandatory to call the Activation Center for
every reinstall however if a product key has been found to be used a
considerable number of times (I don't know how many) to install to systems
with different hardware then MS could easily infer that this product key is
being used for multiple installs to different computers. I suppose that they
could red flag this.
And put some shoes on ;-)


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Lorne Smith
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Re: Activate WinXP
Posted: 09-05-2003, 03:50 PM
Ignore Perdita, Joe... It's not the REAL Perdita but a troll...

"joe" <rockimoto@goodnetscape.com> wrote in message
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> Perdita X. Dream wrote:
> > joe wrote:
> >> Why is it necessary to call in for activation everytime after the
> >> first call in?
> >
> > It is intended to stop people like you from giving it away to your
> > friends. If you don't steal software then you have nothing to worry
> > about so shut up.
>
> Apparently my stupidity is topped by your inability to read an entire
> post. I am not giving it away to my friends, I was overzealous in
> activating the OS thinking that I had a stable enivornment, I did not
> and now I am being accused of a crime that I did NOT nor contimplate
> doing. I stand humbled in your almighty and all knowing presence.
>

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Lorne Smith
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Posted: 09-05-2003, 03:56 PM
"joe" <rockimoto@goodnetscape.com> wrote in message
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> Harry Ohrn wrote:
> > Check here for info about Windows Product Activation
> > http://www.aumha.org/a/wpa.htm
> > If you keep swapping out hardware you may likely have to call. It
> > takes a few minutes to do this but is part of the price one pays for
> > being in the very small minority of computer users who like to change
> > systems components or reinstall their OS on a regular basis. Hey I'm
> > one of those too. But on the upside it takes much less time to call
> > and activate than it takes to swap out a motherboard. In the grand
> > scheme of life events it really is only a minor annoyance . ;-)
> >
>
> First off I just realized that one could infer from my email address
> that I am trolling, for that I apologize it is only a small measure to
> stop unwanted spam. If necessary reading my headers will show that I use
> OE. I do not have mozilla in any form on my machine.
>
> I have read the url you posted but it talks about 120 days and I believe
> (unless I missed it) nothing about calling in now everytime I need to
> activate after the first call in. I agree in the grand scheme of
> existance it is nothing more than a pebble but non the less it is a
> pebble! (most of the time I am barefoot ;-) )
>
>
Ah, well there's your problem you see... XP is well known to be sensitive to
foot odour

Seriously though, XP will continue to activate over the internet UNTIL such
time as the number of hardware changes exceeds a set limit (HD formatting
counts towards this as the serial number changes - also, a single mothboard
change can actually count as several changed depending on it's integrated
hardware). Once you hit this limit, telephone activate is required until
120 days after the last time it was activated, then you can return to
internet activation.

Also, as Harry says, I suspect a product key which is used to activate
several significantly different hardware configurations could be construed
as stolen and red flagged...

Lorne



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Alex Nichol
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Re: Activate WinXP
Posted: 09-05-2003, 05:50 PM
joe wrote:
>I was told this when I called do to my stupidity of activating (twice)
>before I had a stable system.
>I was installing a 160gig HD without a ATA/133 Controller and it worked
>(for a week) then went south.
>I installed the controller and thought I was stable but a bad printer
>driver scrambled the OS and my brain.
>I now have what I believe to be a stable system (knock on wood) and had
>to call in to register and they told me I now need to call in everytime
>I reinstall my OS no more activation over the internet, why is this?
>
>
>I understand copyright protection and I don't have a problem with that
>but this is an annoying feature if in 3-6 months I want to upgrade my MB
>or something else.
Once 120 days have passed, the record on the site will be expunged and
you will be able to do it again on the net. I am not even sure if what
you were told is correct - the record *ought* to have been updated to
the current hardware position.

If you do a complete format and reinstall, the record on your machine
will have been lost, so you need to activate it again. Normally this
will go through on the net, and even several changes should not make it
essential to do it by phoning - see www.aumha.org/win5/a/wpa.htm


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