Allowing trusted programs through UAC

Posted: 03-19-2008, 11:12 PM
Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
account control in order to run.

The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my laptop.

This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other programs
starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the Cisco
app is the only one asking for permission.
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P. Di Stolfo
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Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC
Posted: 03-19-2008, 11:28 PM
Hello,

on 03/13, Jeff Smith from Microsoft said:

"Unfortunately, no. There's no way to white-list specific applications.

(If this were possible, there would be sneaky ways that evil programs could
ride on the coattails of the good applications)."

So I don't think it's possible without re-writing the application.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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"Thad Student" <ThadStudent@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
> without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
> administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
> account control in order to run.
>
> The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
> installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
> laptop.
>
> This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
> see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
> programs
> starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
> Cisco
> app is the only one asking for permission.
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Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC
Posted: 03-19-2008, 11:45 PM
Is it possible to "re-write" the application using the Microsoft Application
Compatibility Toolkit? Or is this tool for something different altogether?

"P. Di Stolfo" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> on 03/13, Jeff Smith from Microsoft said:
>
> "Unfortunately, no. There's no way to white-list specific applications.
>
> (If this were possible, there would be sneaky ways that evil programs could
> ride on the coattails of the good applications)."
>
> So I don't think it's possible without re-writing the application.
> Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> --
> Greetings,
> P. Di Stolfo
> ---> http://atlive.wordpress.com
>
> "Thad Student" <ThadStudent@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> newsE661E76-3870-46B7-BD0A-ACB43112AE62@microsoft.com...
> > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account control
> > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
> > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the user
> > account control in order to run.
> >
> > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
> > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
> > laptop.
> >
> > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I can't
> > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
> > programs
> > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
> > Cisco
> > app is the only one asking for permission.
>
>
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Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC
Posted: 03-20-2008, 12:14 AM

Thad Student;653434 Wrote:
> Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account
> control
> without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
> administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the
> user
> account control in order to run.
>
> The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
> installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
> laptop.
>
> This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I
> can't
> see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
> programs
> starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
> Cisco
> app is the only one asking for permission.
Hi Thad Student,

You can try this to see if it will work for you.

http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html

Shawn


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Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC
Posted: 03-20-2008, 01:21 AM
I have the tool, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing with it. I guess
I'll have to read some of the documents that came with it. Otherwise... It
doesn't seem to be making a difference so far...

"Brink" wrote:
>
> Thad Student;653434 Wrote:
> > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account
> > control
> > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
> > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the
> > user
> > account control in order to run.
> >
> > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
> > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
> > laptop.
> >
> > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I
> > can't
> > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
> > programs
> > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
> > Cisco
> > app is the only one asking for permission.
>
> Hi Thad Student,
>
> You can try this to see if it will work for you.
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html
>
> Shawn
>
>
> --
> Brink
>
> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
> them.*
> '*VISTA FORUMS*'
> (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980)
> *Please post feedback to help others.*
>
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Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC
Posted: 03-20-2008, 03:22 AM

Thad Student;653611 Wrote:
> I have the tool, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing with it. I
> guess
> I'll have to read some of the documents that came with it. Otherwise...
> It
> doesn't seem to be making a difference so far...
>
> "Brink" wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > Thad Student;653434 Wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Thad Student,
> > >
> > > You can try this to see if it will work for you.
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html
> > >
> > > Shawn
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Brink
> > >
> > > *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
> > > them.*
> > > '*VISTA FORUMS*'
> > > (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980)
> > > *Please post feedback to help others.*
> > > > >
It is hit and miss with working on programs. The only other option to
do without turning UAC off, is to elevate the administrator accounts so
they alone will not be bothered by the UAC prompts and still have UAC
on.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/80...ege-level.html

Hope this helps,
Shawn


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Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC
Posted: 03-20-2008, 09:23 AM

Maybe you could try to start it using the schedduler instead of the startup
folder (rights are not the same)

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Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC
Posted: 03-20-2008, 09:35 AM

Thad Student;653434 Wrote:
> Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account
> control
> without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
> administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the
> user
> account control in order to run.
>
> The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
> installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
> laptop.
>
> This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I
> can't
> see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
> programs
> starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
> Cisco
> app is the only one asking for permission.
Olivier;654001 Wrote:
> Maybe you could try to start it using the schedduler instead of the
> startup
> folder (rights are not the same)
>
> regards
> --
> Olivier
Thank you for the reminder Olivier.

Thad Student,

Under Option One, Method Two will show you how to have that program
startup with Vista using Task Scheduler instead to bypass UAC.

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/79...e-disable.html

Shawn


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Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC
Posted: 03-21-2008, 12:21 AM
Thad

The best solution for this problem, without disabling any security
components, is to use the Task Scheduler to creat a task that starts the
program when you log on. This task can be run with highest privileges and no
prompt from the User Account Control.

See the following website for instructions and a small utility that
automates creating the scheduled task.

Download and run the Startup Unblocker utility. It will give you a list of
all programs that are configured to start at bootup. Each item will have a
drop down menu that you can use to 'run as administrator'. When you select
this option for an item, the Scheduled Task will be automatically created.

How do I run an administrative program (that needs my permission to start)
every time I log in and prevent the "Windows has blocked some startup
programs" message?:
http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Administ...n_program.aspx

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"Thad Student" <ThadStudent@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I have the tool, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing with it. I
>guess
> I'll have to read some of the documents that came with it. Otherwise... It
> doesn't seem to be making a difference so far...
>
> "Brink" wrote:
>
>>
>> Thad Student;653434 Wrote:
>> > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account
>> > control
>> > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
>> > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the
>> > user
>> > account control in order to run.
>> >
>> > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
>> > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
>> > laptop.
>> >
>> > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I
>> > can't
>> > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
>> > programs
>> > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
>> > Cisco
>> > app is the only one asking for permission.
>>
>> Hi Thad Student,
>>
>> You can try this to see if it will work for you.
>>
>> http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>>
>> --
>> Brink
>>
>> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
>> them.*
>> '*VISTA FORUMS*'
>> (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980)
>> *Please post feedback to help others.*
>>
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Re: Allowing trusted programs through UAC
Posted: 03-22-2008, 02:28 AM
Thanks for the help. It is most appreciated

"Ronnie Vernon MVP" wrote:
> Thad
>
> The best solution for this problem, without disabling any security
> components, is to use the Task Scheduler to creat a task that starts the
> program when you log on. This task can be run with highest privileges and no
> prompt from the User Account Control.
>
> See the following website for instructions and a small utility that
> automates creating the scheduled task.
>
> Download and run the Startup Unblocker utility. It will give you a list of
> all programs that are configured to start at bootup. Each item will have a
> drop down menu that you can use to 'run as administrator'. When you select
> this option for an item, the Scheduled Task will be automatically created.
>
> How do I run an administrative program (that needs my permission to start)
> every time I log in and prevent the "Windows has blocked some startup
> programs" message?:
> http://www.jimmah.com/vista/Administ...n_program.aspx
>
> --
>
> Ronnie Vernon
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Desktop Experience
>
>
> "Thad Student" <ThadStudent@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:B1FDFAAB-4E51-4BA1-8400-9D0FD0FBC912@microsoft.com...
> >I have the tool, but I'm not sure I'm doing the right thing with it. I
> >guess
> > I'll have to read some of the documents that came with it. Otherwise... It
> > doesn't seem to be making a difference so far...
> >
> > "Brink" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Thad Student;653434 Wrote:
> >> > Is there a way to allow a trusted program through the user account
> >> > control
> >> > without asking for permission every time? I log into my laptop as an
> >> > administrator and there is one program that needs consent through the
> >> > user
> >> > account control in order to run.
> >> >
> >> > The program is Cisco Clean Access Agent. The geek squad at my school
> >> > installed it so I can log onto the school's wireless network with my
> >> > laptop.
> >> >
> >> > This program is initiated through the Start Menu | Startup folder. I
> >> > can't
> >> > see why this shouldn't be possible because there are about 10 other
> >> > programs
> >> > starting when I log on (including some from the startup menu), and the
> >> > Cisco
> >> > app is the only one asking for permission.
> >>
> >> Hi Thad Student,
> >>
> >> You can try this to see if it will work for you.
> >>
> >> http://www.vistax64.com/vista-news/1...lications.html
> >>
> >> Shawn
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Brink
> >>
> >> *There are no dumb questions, just the people that do not ask
> >> them.*
> >> '*VISTA FORUMS*'
> >> (http://www.vistax64.com/index.php?referrerid=2980)
> >> *Please post feedback to help others.*
> >>
>
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