Anyone?? - Catalyst 7.2 keep crashing Vista (ATI X1950PRO)

No problems with 7.2 here but I completely removed the previous version
before installing this one, even cleaned the registry because I have had
problems in the past .


"Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uyQzw$JaHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Hi,
> I just installed Catalyst 7.2 and it keep crashing Vista when it tries to
> use the 3D feature.. like
> 1) Enabling Aero
> 2) Running perfomance test (for rating)
>
> Each time I get the black screen and boot keeps recycling after that.
>
> Questions about my cards 3D options:
> 1: Should I deactivate the 3D Catalyst A.I?
> 2: Would it help to Uncheck the support for DXT textureformats?
>
> Also - my card has 2 outlets for power.. I only used 1.
> Does that make a difference?
>
> I only have 1 monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 940BF
> ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe
> 2GB RAM
> Vista Business
>
> Thanks
>

I believe there is an issue with some X1950's with drivers 7.1 and 7.2. An
error occurs when the card tries to "up" its speed and voltages when you
enter a 3d app'. The temporary work around is to either 1) - use the Ati
drivers and disable the service "ATi External Event Utility" or 2) -
uninstall all Catalyst drivers and use the latest drivers through Windows
update. (Either way you will have no advanced graphic card options, and the
card will be stuck at 2d speeds.) There may be a fix for this in the next
Catalyst release.Ati are fully aware of this issue.
"Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uyQzw$JaHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Hi,
> I just installed Catalyst 7.2 and it keep crashing Vista when it tries to
> use the 3D feature.. like
> 1) Enabling Aero
> 2) Running perfomance test (for rating)
>
> Each time I get the black screen and boot keeps recycling after that.
>
> Questions about my cards 3D options:
> 1: Should I deactivate the 3D Catalyst A.I?
> 2: Would it help to Uncheck the support for DXT textureformats?
>
> Also - my card has 2 outlets for power.. I only used 1.
> Does that make a difference?
>
> I only have 1 monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 940BF
> ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe
> 2GB RAM
> Vista Business
>
> Thanks
>

The only card mentioned as not working with the CAT 7.1 and 7.2s is the
X1950GT, it is expected to be fixed in 7.3.

Caution: The ATI RadeonT X1950 GT is currently not supported under
the Windows Vista operating system. Software driver support will be
available starting with Catalyst 7.3.


"Bullet" <Mail@post.com> wrote in message
news:6C34C18B-02CD-43A4-B7D6-59F0A93D55C1@microsoft.com...

>I believe there is an issue with some X1950's with drivers 7.1 and 7.2. An
>error occurs when the card tries to "up" its speed and voltages when you
>enter a 3d app'. The temporary work around is to either 1) - use the Ati
>drivers and disable the service "ATi External Event Utility" or 2) -
>uninstall all Catalyst drivers and use the latest drivers through Windows
>update. (Either way you will have no advanced graphic card options, and the
>card will be stuck at 2d speeds.) There may be a fix for this in the next
>Catalyst release.Ati are fully aware of this issue.
> "Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uyQzw$JaHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Hi,
>> I just installed Catalyst 7.2 and it keep crashing Vista when it tries to
>> use the 3D feature.. like
>> 1) Enabling Aero
>> 2) Running perfomance test (for rating)
>>
>> Each time I get the black screen and boot keeps recycling after that.
>>
>> Questions about my cards 3D options:
>> 1: Should I deactivate the 3D Catalyst A.I?
>> 2: Would it help to Uncheck the support for DXT textureformats?
>>
>> Also - my card has 2 outlets for power.. I only used 1.
>> Does that make a difference?
>>
>> I only have 1 monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 940BF
>> ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe
>> 2GB RAM
>> Vista Business
>>
>> Thanks
>>

>

I can't help a lot, as I use nVidia video cards.

But, ATI says this card needs a lot of power. Do you have two of them in a
Crossfire?
I am sure that each will require a power connection.

The release notes for Catalyst 7.2---
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...ase_notes.html

And---
System Requirements
a.. PCI ExpressT based PC is required with one x16 lane graphics slot
available on the motherboard.
b.. Connection to the system power supply is required:
a.. 450-Watt power supply or greater, 30 Amps on 12 volt rail
recommended (assumes fully loaded system)
c.. For CrossFireT: 550 watt power supply or greater, 38 Amps on 12 volt
rail
d.. 512MB of system memory
e.. Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
f.. DVD playback requires DVD drive and decoder software (not included)
g.. Please see ati.com/crossfire for a list of recommended ATI CrossFireT
certified components
h.. To complete the CrossFireT platform, a second PCI Express® Radeon®
X1950 PRO graphics card, a CrossFireT Ready motherboard and two CrossFire
bridge interconnect cables are required
Maybe you have a conflict between Catalyst and some other program, like an
antivirus program.


"Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uyQzw$JaHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Hi,
> I just installed Catalyst 7.2 and it keep crashing Vista when it tries to
> use the 3D feature.. like
> 1) Enabling Aero
> 2) Running perfomance test (for rating)
>
> Each time I get the black screen and boot keeps recycling after that.
>
> Questions about my cards 3D options:
> 1: Should I deactivate the 3D Catalyst A.I?
> 2: Would it help to Uncheck the support for DXT textureformats?
>
> Also - my card has 2 outlets for power.. I only used 1.
> Does that make a difference?
>
> I only have 1 monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 940BF
> ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe
> 2GB RAM
> Vista Business
>
> Thanks
>

Alright...
I did all the suggestions and still crashes during Windows Experience Index
updating.

1: First I removed all ATI drivers and software, rebooted.
2: Installed native VGA driver, rebooted. - Windows Experience Index
updating worked here!
3: Did a regclean and defrag.
4: Checked msconfig and disabled all none MS startup elements. But also
Windows Defender
5: Had Catalyst 7.1 downloaded and installed from that, since the CD
software is not working.
6: Rebooted.
7: Tried Windows Experience Index and crashed.

a: And still I can't shut down PC or restart without having to do Hard
Reboot. Not even before #1.
b: Don't have any AntiVirus program installed.
c: My Geforce FX 6200 had no trouble with Windows Experience Index.

To see the 2 power outlets, look here:
http://www.sapphiretech.com/dk/produ...gpid=168&grp=3
At the top of the card you can barely see 2 white outlets.

No - don't have crossfire
Power supply is 480, so should be enough.
"CMShepard" <cmshepard@air-internet.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:%23sqQ54KaHHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>I can't help a lot, as I use nVidia video cards.
>
> But, ATI says this card needs a lot of power. Do you have two of them in a
> Crossfire?
> I am sure that each will require a power connection.
>
> The release notes for Catalyst 7.2---
> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...ase_notes.html
>
> And---
> System Requirements
> a.. PCI ExpressT based PC is required with one x16 lane graphics slot
> available on the motherboard.
> b.. Connection to the system power supply is required:
> a.. 450-Watt power supply or greater, 30 Amps on 12 volt rail
> recommended (assumes fully loaded system)
> c.. For CrossFireT: 550 watt power supply or greater, 38 Amps on 12 volt
> rail
> d.. 512MB of system memory
> e.. Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
> f.. DVD playback requires DVD drive and decoder software (not included)
> g.. Please see ati.com/crossfire for a list of recommended ATI CrossFireT
> certified components
> h.. To complete the CrossFireT platform, a second PCI Express® Radeon®
> X1950 PRO graphics card, a CrossFireT Ready motherboard and two CrossFire
> bridge interconnect cables are required
> Maybe you have a conflict between Catalyst and some other program, like an
> antivirus program.
>
>
> "Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uyQzw$JaHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Hi,
>> I just installed Catalyst 7.2 and it keep crashing Vista when it tries to
>> use the 3D feature.. like
>> 1) Enabling Aero
>> 2) Running perfomance test (for rating)
>>
>> Each time I get the black screen and boot keeps recycling after that.
>>
>> Questions about my cards 3D options:
>> 1: Should I deactivate the 3D Catalyst A.I?
>> 2: Would it help to Uncheck the support for DXT textureformats?
>>
>> Also - my card has 2 outlets for power.. I only used 1.
>> Does that make a difference?
>>
>> I only have 1 monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 940BF
>> ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe
>> 2GB RAM
>> Vista Business
>>
>> Thanks
>>

>

Oops, forgot to add, it's an AGP card!

"Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelelsen
news:O8OtwMLaHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Alright...
> I did all the suggestions and still crashes during Windows Experience
> Index updating.
>
> 1: First I removed all ATI drivers and software, rebooted.
> 2: Installed native VGA driver, rebooted. - Windows Experience Index
> updating worked here!
> 3: Did a regclean and defrag.
> 4: Checked msconfig and disabled all none MS startup elements. But also
> Windows Defender
> 5: Had Catalyst 7.1 downloaded and installed from that, since the CD
> software is not working.
> 6: Rebooted.
> 7: Tried Windows Experience Index and crashed.
>
> a: And still I can't shut down PC or restart without having to do Hard
> Reboot. Not even before #1.
> b: Don't have any AntiVirus program installed.
> c: My Geforce FX 6200 had no trouble with Windows Experience Index.
>
> To see the 2 power outlets, look here:
> http://www.sapphiretech.com/dk/produ...gpid=168&grp=3
> At the top of the card you can barely see 2 white outlets.
>
> No - don't have crossfire
> Power supply is 480, so should be enough.
> "CMShepard" <cmshepard@air-internet.com> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:%23sqQ54KaHHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>I can't help a lot, as I use nVidia video cards.
>>
>> But, ATI says this card needs a lot of power. Do you have two of them in
>> a Crossfire?
>> I am sure that each will require a power connection.
>>
>> The release notes for Catalyst 7.2---
>> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...ase_notes.html
>>
>> And---
>> System Requirements
>> a.. PCI ExpressT based PC is required with one x16 lane graphics slot
>> available on the motherboard.
>> b.. Connection to the system power supply is required:
>> a.. 450-Watt power supply or greater, 30 Amps on 12 volt rail
>> recommended (assumes fully loaded system)
>> c.. For CrossFireT: 550 watt power supply or greater, 38 Amps on 12 volt
>> rail
>> d.. 512MB of system memory
>> e.. Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
>> f.. DVD playback requires DVD drive and decoder software (not included)
>> g.. Please see ati.com/crossfire for a list of recommended ATI
>> CrossFireT certified components
>> h.. To complete the CrossFireT platform, a second PCI Express® Radeon®
>> X1950 PRO graphics card, a CrossFireT Ready motherboard and two CrossFire
>> bridge interconnect cables are required
>> Maybe you have a conflict between Catalyst and some other program, like
>> an antivirus program.
>>
>>
>> "Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uyQzw$JaHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Hi,
>>> I just installed Catalyst 7.2 and it keep crashing Vista when it tries
>>> to use the 3D feature.. like
>>> 1) Enabling Aero
>>> 2) Running perfomance test (for rating)
>>>
>>> Each time I get the black screen and boot keeps recycling after that.
>>>
>>> Questions about my cards 3D options:
>>> 1: Should I deactivate the 3D Catalyst A.I?
>>> 2: Would it help to Uncheck the support for DXT textureformats?
>>>
>>> Also - my card has 2 outlets for power.. I only used 1.
>>> Does that make a difference?
>>>
>>> I only have 1 monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 940BF
>>> ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe
>>> 2GB RAM
>>> Vista Business
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>

>>

>

Yeah, I just looked and found the AP card that does have the Dual power. I
would say in that case, you might have to get a splitterl cable, so that you
can have different power coming from 2 different. Guess that's where the ATI
cards are a little different then the nVidia card. If I don't have the card
plugged in, it screams on power up.

Looking at teh "what's in the box" it looks like you should have gotten a
splitter for it

Really surprising that it can't pull enough juice from one molex plug. Guess
the PCI-E slots must supply alot more power than I thought.

Is the program crashing or is windows crashing ? Seems odd that windows
would crash, makes sense if it's just the App that crashes.


"Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uZmExULaHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

> Oops, forgot to add, it's an AGP card!
>
> "Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelelsen
> news:O8OtwMLaHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Alright...
>> I did all the suggestions and still crashes during Windows Experience
>> Index updating.
>>
>> 1: First I removed all ATI drivers and software, rebooted.
>> 2: Installed native VGA driver, rebooted. - Windows Experience Index
>> updating worked here!
>> 3: Did a regclean and defrag.
>> 4: Checked msconfig and disabled all none MS startup elements. But also
>> Windows Defender
>> 5: Had Catalyst 7.1 downloaded and installed from that, since the CD
>> software is not working.
>> 6: Rebooted.
>> 7: Tried Windows Experience Index and crashed.
>>
>> a: And still I can't shut down PC or restart without having to do Hard
>> Reboot. Not even before #1.
>> b: Don't have any AntiVirus program installed.
>> c: My Geforce FX 6200 had no trouble with Windows Experience Index.
>>
>> To see the 2 power outlets, look here:
>> http://www.sapphiretech.com/dk/produ...gpid=168&grp=3
>> At the top of the card you can barely see 2 white outlets.
>>
>> No - don't have crossfire
>> Power supply is 480, so should be enough.
>> "CMShepard" <cmshepard@air-internet.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>> news:%23sqQ54KaHHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>>I can't help a lot, as I use nVidia video cards.
>>>
>>> But, ATI says this card needs a lot of power. Do you have two of them in
>>> a Crossfire?
>>> I am sure that each will require a power connection.
>>>
>>> The release notes for Catalyst 7.2---
>>> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...ase_notes.html
>>>
>>> And---
>>> System Requirements
>>> a.. PCI ExpressT based PC is required with one x16 lane graphics slot
>>> available on the motherboard.
>>> b.. Connection to the system power supply is required:
>>> a.. 450-Watt power supply or greater, 30 Amps on 12 volt rail
>>> recommended (assumes fully loaded system)
>>> c.. For CrossFireT: 550 watt power supply or greater, 38 Amps on 12
>>> volt rail
>>> d.. 512MB of system memory
>>> e.. Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
>>> f.. DVD playback requires DVD drive and decoder software (not included)
>>> g.. Please see ati.com/crossfire for a list of recommended ATI
>>> CrossFireT certified components
>>> h.. To complete the CrossFireT platform, a second PCI Express® Radeon®
>>> X1950 PRO graphics card, a CrossFireT Ready motherboard and two
>>> CrossFire bridge interconnect cables are required
>>> Maybe you have a conflict between Catalyst and some other program, like
>>> an antivirus program.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uyQzw$JaHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I just installed Catalyst 7.2 and it keep crashing Vista when it tries
>>>> to use the 3D feature.. like
>>>> 1) Enabling Aero
>>>> 2) Running perfomance test (for rating)
>>>>
>>>> Each time I get the black screen and boot keeps recycling after that.
>>>>
>>>> Questions about my cards 3D options:
>>>> 1: Should I deactivate the 3D Catalyst A.I?
>>>> 2: Would it help to Uncheck the support for DXT textureformats?
>>>>
>>>> Also - my card has 2 outlets for power.. I only used 1.
>>>> Does that make a difference?
>>>>
>>>> I only have 1 monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 940BF
>>>> ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe
>>>> 2GB RAM
>>>> Vista Business
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>

>>

>

First..
If you by split cable, means a cable with one end for the power supply and 2 for .. well you know.
Then yes it does comes with a split power cable.
But says on the package, that one of the 2 ends goes into the card itself and one to the harddrive c???
Well, I tried that and gave no difference.
Don't have any other cables except for TV, which I don't need.

And the card itself doesn't really make any noice - except for when I try indexing thing, then the card fan goes nuts and screen black.

Not sure if it's window or the app that crashes.
Maybe crash is too strong a word, first the screen flicker with little green lines like matrix, lol
Then the fan spinning, then just black.

No, I really believe it's the 3D features in Catalyst, that's screwed up.
Making it impossible to do anything that uses the slightest of 3D.

A whole other story is the native VGA driver. it doesn't seem to install properly.
When I go to device manager, it shows up with that little yellow triangle. Weird.
And Vista doesn't have a driver of it's own for ATI... none I have found anyway

Thanks, lilo
(For now I reverted back to my Geforce 6200, since I need 3D)

"Dale M. White" <dale.white@NOinsightbb.NOcom> skrev i meddelelsen news:y5idnWYJq_6rt2HYnZ2dnUVZ_o-knZ2d@insightbb.com...

> Yeah, I just looked and found the AP card that does have the Dual power. I
> would say in that case, you might have to get a splitterl cable, so that you
> can have different power coming from 2 different. Guess that's where the ATI
> cards are a little different then the nVidia card. If I don't have the card
> plugged in, it screams on power up.
>
> Looking at teh "what's in the box" it looks like you should have gotten a
> splitter for it
>
> Really surprising that it can't pull enough juice from one molex plug. Guess
> the PCI-E slots must supply alot more power than I thought.
>
> Is the program crashing or is windows crashing ? Seems odd that windows
> would crash, makes sense if it's just the App that crashes.
>
>
> "Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uZmExULaHHA.4000@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> Oops, forgot to add, it's an AGP card!
>>
>> "Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>> news:O8OtwMLaHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Alright...
>>> I did all the suggestions and still crashes during Windows Experience
>>> Index updating.
>>>
>>> 1: First I removed all ATI drivers and software, rebooted.
>>> 2: Installed native VGA driver, rebooted. - Windows Experience Index
>>> updating worked here!
>>> 3: Did a regclean and defrag.
>>> 4: Checked msconfig and disabled all none MS startup elements. But also
>>> Windows Defender
>>> 5: Had Catalyst 7.1 downloaded and installed from that, since the CD
>>> software is not working.
>>> 6: Rebooted.
>>> 7: Tried Windows Experience Index and crashed.
>>>
>>> a: And still I can't shut down PC or restart without having to do Hard
>>> Reboot. Not even before #1.
>>> b: Don't have any AntiVirus program installed.
>>> c: My Geforce FX 6200 had no trouble with Windows Experience Index.
>>>
>>> To see the 2 power outlets, look here:
>>> http://www.sapphiretech.com/dk/produ...gpid=168&grp=3
>>> At the top of the card you can barely see 2 white outlets.
>>>
>>> No - don't have crossfire
>>> Power supply is 480, so should be enough.
>>> "CMShepard" <cmshepard@air-internet.com> skrev i meddelelsen
>>> news:%23sqQ54KaHHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>I can't help a lot, as I use nVidia video cards.
>>>>
>>>> But, ATI says this card needs a lot of power. Do you have two of them in
>>>> a Crossfire?
>>>> I am sure that each will require a power connection.
>>>>
>>>> The release notes for Catalyst 7.2---
>>>> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...ase_notes.html
>>>>
>>>> And---
>>>> System Requirements
>>>> a.. PCI ExpressT based PC is required with one x16 lane graphics slot
>>>> available on the motherboard.
>>>> b.. Connection to the system power supply is required:
>>>> a.. 450-Watt power supply or greater, 30 Amps on 12 volt rail
>>>> recommended (assumes fully loaded system)
>>>> c.. For CrossFireT: 550 watt power supply or greater, 38 Amps on 12
>>>> volt rail
>>>> d.. 512MB of system memory
>>>> e.. Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
>>>> f.. DVD playback requires DVD drive and decoder software (not included)
>>>> g.. Please see ati.com/crossfire for a list of recommended ATI
>>>> CrossFireT certified components
>>>> h.. To complete the CrossFireT platform, a second PCI Express® Radeon®
>>>> X1950 PRO graphics card, a CrossFireT Ready motherboard and two
>>>> CrossFire bridge interconnect cables are required
>>>> Maybe you have a conflict between Catalyst and some other program, like
>>>> an antivirus program.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lilo Lentz" <misslilo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uyQzw$JaHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I just installed Catalyst 7.2 and it keep crashing Vista when it tries
>>>>> to use the 3D feature.. like
>>>>> 1) Enabling Aero
>>>>> 2) Running perfomance test (for rating)
>>>>>
>>>>> Each time I get the black screen and boot keeps recycling after that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Questions about my cards 3D options:
>>>>> 1: Should I deactivate the 3D Catalyst A.I?
>>>>> 2: Would it help to Uncheck the support for DXT textureformats?
>>>>>
>>>>> Also - my card has 2 outlets for power.. I only used 1.
>>>>> Does that make a difference?
>>>>>
>>>>> I only have 1 monitor - Samsung SyncMaster 940BF
>>>>> ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe
>>>>> 2GB RAM
>>>>> Vista Business
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
>