Re: Backup - Program Files folder being included

> Tried to reply.... IE hung.. .so here goes again (apologies if two replies
> show up).
>
> I'm using Vista Business. Now that you've explained the lack of block
> level
> used in Automatic Backups, I see what's happening.
>
> Note that you can change the schedule of "Automatic Backups" via Task
> Scheduler and it appears the job runs as scheduled but the Backup UI then
> tells you that Backups are no longer configured and I'm not sure if I'd
> receive any notification pop-ups for problems, etc.
>
>
> "Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" wrote:
>

>> Stuart, how are you doing your backups? Specifically:
>>
>> - Which edition are you using? On Home Basic, for instance, all backups
>> are
>> full
>> - Is your backup running on a scheduled basis? Or are you manually
>> triggering a new backup every day? If so, how do you create a new backup
>> (there are a couple ways to do it)?
>>
>> To answer your questions about VSS: yes, the File Backup does use VSS,
>> but
>> in a very different way than CompletePC Backup. For File Backup, a
>> snapshot
>> is created to make sure we have all opened files flushed from memory to
>> the
>> file system, using VSS and all involved writers. Once this is done, the
>> backup reads the files from the snapshot and places them on a zip file.
>>
>> The .zip includes complete files and we don't store block level
>> information.
>> The backup includes a catalog that contains information on all files,
>> including timestamps, etc. Before adding files to backu,p we do a
>> comparison
>> to check which files should be added.
>>
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>>
>> "Stuart [MVP]" <StuartMVP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news9F9C394-4E6D-4B04-9181-A4DEB2E83FB0@microsoft.com...

>> > I'm not happy with Vista Automatic File backup. First, it won't let you
>> > schedule it in a very granular fashion (like during weekdays only).
>> > Second,
>> > it seems to copy the same files (at least the overall size is the same)
>> > every
>> > day. The first backup created a 4.8 GB saveset. Each subsequent day,
>> > the
>> > same
>> > size saveset gets created. What gives? I thought this technology used
>> > VSS
>> > like Complete PC Backup did?
>> >
>> > Stuart.
>> > -----------
>> >
>> > "Jill Zoeller [MSFT]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Backup indeed searches for user files under Program Files. The reason
>> >> for
>> >> it
>> >> is that a lot of applications write to their subfolder under Program
>> >> Files.
>> >> Also, other application write user files to root of the drive and
>> >> other
>> >> hard-to-find locations. The backup application is greedy, thus it will
>> >> try
>> >> and locate files throughout the source volumes. Very few directory
>> >> trees
>> >> are
>> >> excluded, i.e. %windir%.
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> "Jason Hanford-Smith" <Jason Hanford-Smith@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote
>> >> in message news:901F6444-84F7-40C1-B4FE-879A09FF8E96@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Sure this is wrong... I started my first full file backup (not the
>> >> > image-based backup) and deselected some option (movies, music,
>> >> > compressed
>> >> > files, etc) and proceeded to back things up.
>> >> >
>> >> > Despite the message stating the Applications are not backed up, 90%
>> >> > of
>> >> > the
>> >> > backup time was taken up by backing up images, etc from the Program
>> >> > Files
>> >> > subfolders (Office 2007, etc).
>> >> >
>> >> > Surely it would be advisable to skip Program Files altogether,
>> >> > right?
>> >> >
>> >> > (Sorry if this has already been covered elsewhere)
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