Beta 2 Which Platform are using x86 or x64?

Vista x64 - Ultimate
Vista x86 - Home Premium
Vista x86 - Business

Why on earth dya want to know anyway? It's not going to any thinktank or
anything S

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"Fox" <nospam@mail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Andre,
>
> Running Vista beta 2 x86 (no x64 hardware !) Ultimate. Trying to run MCE,
> but not having any luck - as Vista cannot pick-up any TV stations
> My USB-TV box works fine on XP, but nothing at all on Vista.
>
> Ah well - good job I got it for free!! lol
>
> --
>
> ----
> Fox
> ----
>
>
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uV%23E4qogGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I would like to know who here is running Windows Vista beta 2 x86 and x64
>> or both, which Editions, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business or Ulitmate.
>>
>> What has prevented you from giving either platform the thumbs up, what
>> you do like or don't like about either platform, what is missing from the
>> x64 version that has always been the 32-bit version.
>>
>> I am going to include 5381 and 5365 x64, since a lot of persons might
>> still not have obtained BETA 2 yet.
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>
>>

>
>

Why are you having a problem with it? I am writing a preview of Windows
Vista BETA 2 for ActiveWin.com of which I am staff, ActiveWin is one of the
top Windows Vista community sites, so I need this information for
statistical purposes. Also, its for discussion and assistance. I can sense
you have a problem with me starting this post, but seriously, I don't care.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

"Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:%23mUp%23$ogGHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Vista x64 - Ultimate
> Vista x86 - Home Premium
> Vista x86 - Business
>
> Why on earth dya want to know anyway? It's not going to any thinktank or
> anything S
>
> --
> Zack Whittaker
> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
> not
> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
> that up!
>
> --: Original message follows :--
> "Fox" <nospam@mail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23JGk$7ogGHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> Hi Andre,
>>
>> Running Vista beta 2 x86 (no x64 hardware !) Ultimate. Trying to run
>> MCE, but not having any luck - as Vista cannot pick-up any TV stations
>> My USB-TV box works fine on XP, but nothing at all on Vista.
>>
>> Ah well - good job I got it for free!! lol
>>
>> --
>>
>> ----
>> Fox
>> ----
>>
>>
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uV%23E4qogGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I would like to know who here is running Windows Vista beta 2 x86 and
>>> x64 or both, which Editions, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business or
>>> Ulitmate.
>>>
>>> What has prevented you from giving either platform the thumbs up, what
>>> you do like or don't like about either platform, what is missing from
>>> the x64 version that has always been the 32-bit version.
>>>
>>> I am going to include 5381 and 5365 x64, since a lot of persons might
>>> still not have obtained BETA 2 yet.
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Andre
>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>

I an having fun with Vista Build 5384.4. This is the only O/S I've see
continue running with the CPU pegged at 100% with some of my heavy hitting
apps. I think MS has a winner here.


"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uxX9GJpgGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Why are you having a problem with it? I am writing a preview of Windows
> Vista BETA 2 for ActiveWin.com of which I am staff, ActiveWin is one of
> the top Windows Vista community sites, so I need this information for
> statistical purposes. Also, its for discussion and assistance. I can sense
> you have a problem with me starting this post, but seriously, I don't
> care.
> --
> --
> Andre
> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>
> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:%23mUp%23$ogGHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Vista x64 - Ultimate
>> Vista x86 - Home Premium
>> Vista x86 - Business
>>
>> Why on earth dya want to know anyway? It's not going to any thinktank or
>> anything S
>>
>> --
>> Zack Whittaker
>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>> not
>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we cleared
>> that up!
>>
>> --: Original message follows :--
>> "Fox" <nospam@mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23JGk$7ogGHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> Hi Andre,
>>>
>>> Running Vista beta 2 x86 (no x64 hardware !) Ultimate. Trying to run
>>> MCE, but not having any luck - as Vista cannot pick-up any TV stations
>>>
>>> My USB-TV box works fine on XP, but nothing at all on Vista.
>>>
>>> Ah well - good job I got it for free!! lol
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Fox
>>> ----
>>>
>>>
>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uV%23E4qogGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I would like to know who here is running Windows Vista beta 2 x86 and
>>>> x64 or both, which Editions, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business or
>>>> Ulitmate.
>>>>
>>>> What has prevented you from giving either platform the thumbs up, what
>>>> you do like or don't like about either platform, what is missing from
>>>> the x64 version that has always been the 32-bit version.
>>>>
>>>> I am going to include 5381 and 5365 x64, since a lot of persons might
>>>> still not have obtained BETA 2 yet.
>>>> --
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>

sorry ,
Platform is:
P4 3ghz 800fsb
3gbs DDR ram
233gbs hdd sata's
DVD /RW
dual Lan NIC
Gaphics is an ATI Radeon 9600 /128mb on two ViewSonic Vp920b
"Robert Rixx" <firerx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:995777E5-BC6C-470B-9C63-E9ACE672F959@microsoft.com...

> I an having fun with Vista Build 5384.4. This is the only O/S I've see
> continue running with the CPU pegged at 100% with some of my heavy hitting
> apps. I think MS has a winner here.
>
>
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uxX9GJpgGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Why are you having a problem with it? I am writing a preview of Windows
>> Vista BETA 2 for ActiveWin.com of which I am staff, ActiveWin is one of
>> the top Windows Vista community sites, so I need this information for
>> statistical purposes. Also, its for discussion and assistance. I can
>> sense you have a problem with me starting this post, but seriously, I
>> don't care.
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>
>> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:%23mUp%23$ogGHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Vista x64 - Ultimate
>>> Vista x86 - Home Premium
>>> Vista x86 - Business
>>>
>>> Why on earth dya want to know anyway? It's not going to any thinktank or
>>> anything S
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zack Whittaker
>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>>> not
>>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
>>> cleared
>>> that up!
>>>
>>> --: Original message follows :--
>>> "Fox" <nospam@mail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23JGk$7ogGHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>
>>>> Running Vista beta 2 x86 (no x64 hardware !) Ultimate. Trying to run
>>>> MCE, but not having any luck - as Vista cannot pick-up any TV stations
>>>>
>>>> My USB-TV box works fine on XP, but nothing at all on Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Ah well - good job I got it for free!! lol
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> Fox
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uV%23E4qogGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to know who here is running Windows Vista beta 2 x86 and
>>>>> x64 or both, which Editions, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business or
>>>>> Ulitmate.
>>>>>
>>>>> What has prevented you from giving either platform the thumbs up, what
>>>>> you do like or don't like about either platform, what is missing from
>>>>> the x64 version that has always been the 32-bit version.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am going to include 5381 and 5365 x64, since a lot of persons might
>>>>> still not have obtained BETA 2 yet.
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andre
>>>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>

LOL, you make me laugh. Vista is still "BETA", and the focus now is to
optimize the code
for performance and fix any bugs that are found. Vista contains a lot of
debug code right now, thats part of the reason why its really so memory
intensive. I am running Vista on a machine with 512 MBs of RAM, yes, its not
as fast as XP but I don't see any loss in productivity really from it. Even
Zack Whittecker has managed to install Vista on a system with 256 MBs of RAM
(don't know the performance) but it sounds like its working ok.

Anyway, don't cast judgment yet, lets wait until the software RTM's before
we do so. Also, we are still not at RC1 yet, and that build will be a true
reflection of what the RTM will be, then we can start to decide if Windows
Vista is right for us.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

"Robert Rixx" <firerx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:995777E5-BC6C-470B-9C63-E9ACE672F959@microsoft.com...

> I an having fun with Vista Build 5384.4. This is the only O/S I've see
> continue running with the CPU pegged at 100% with some of my heavy hitting
> apps. I think MS has a winner here.
>
>
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uxX9GJpgGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Why are you having a problem with it? I am writing a preview of Windows
>> Vista BETA 2 for ActiveWin.com of which I am staff, ActiveWin is one of
>> the top Windows Vista community sites, so I need this information for
>> statistical purposes. Also, its for discussion and assistance. I can
>> sense you have a problem with me starting this post, but seriously, I
>> don't care.
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>
>> "Zack Whittaker" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:%23mUp%23$ogGHA.3900@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Vista x64 - Ultimate
>>> Vista x86 - Home Premium
>>> Vista x86 - Business
>>>
>>> Why on earth dya want to know anyway? It's not going to any thinktank or
>>> anything S
>>>
>>> --
>>> Zack Whittaker
>>> » ZackNET Enterprises: www.zacknet.co.uk
>>> » MSBlog on ResDev: www.msblog.org
>>> » Vista Knowledge Base: www.vistabase.co.uk
>>> » This mailing is provided "as is" with no warranties, and confers no
>>> rights. All opinions expressed are those of myself unless stated so, and
>>> not
>>> of my employer, best friend, Ghandi, my mother or my cat. Glad we
>>> cleared
>>> that up!
>>>
>>> --: Original message follows :--
>>> "Fox" <nospam@mail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23JGk$7ogGHA.4040@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>
>>>> Running Vista beta 2 x86 (no x64 hardware !) Ultimate. Trying to run
>>>> MCE, but not having any luck - as Vista cannot pick-up any TV stations
>>>>
>>>> My USB-TV box works fine on XP, but nothing at all on Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Ah well - good job I got it for free!! lol
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ----
>>>> Fox
>>>> ----
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uV%23E4qogGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to know who here is running Windows Vista beta 2 x86 and
>>>>> x64 or both, which Editions, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business or
>>>>> Ulitmate.
>>>>>
>>>>> What has prevented you from giving either platform the thumbs up, what
>>>>> you do like or don't like about either platform, what is missing from
>>>>> the x64 version that has always been the 32-bit version.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am going to include 5381 and 5365 x64, since a lot of persons might
>>>>> still not have obtained BETA 2 yet.
>>>>> --
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andre
>>>>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>>>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>>>>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>>>>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>

Hi Andre,

Here is a summary of some of the machines I am testing, all using Beta 2.

System 1:
Pentium 4 1.8GHz
2.0GB RAM
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB AGP 1600x1200x32
x86 Business
ATI Beta 2 drivers from their website
Dual booting from Bootable DVD install with Windows XP Professional SP2
(production OS)

Performance is much worse that Windows XP. Cisco VPN Client is a big
showstopper keeping it from daily use. Just navigating around is slower and
I much prefer things to be snappy rather than pretty, although both would be
great. Disabled UAP on this one to make QuickBooks 2006 run.

System 2:
Pentium D 3.0 EM64T
2.0GB RAM
ATI X600 PCI-X 256MB 1920x1200x32
x64 and x86 Business
ATI Beta 2 drivers from their website
Dual booting from Bootable DVD install with Windows XP Professional SP2

Overall performance is better on this machine compared to the one above, but
not as good as Windows XP. QuickBooks print to PDF feature doesn't work in
x64 for Windows XP or Windows Vista x64, so at is one main reason I use x86
on this machine more often. All drivers install and work OK. Video
performance on Windows Energy screensaver is not as good as the system above
for some reason. Haven't got to test many apps on this one, but will next
week. Also, I plan on running x64 a little more despite the QuickBooks
issue.

System 3:
Pentium 4 3.0 HT
512MB RAM
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AGP 1024x768
x86 Ultimate
ATI Beta 2 drivers from their website
ATI 550 Tuners (x2)

This one really chokes with 512MB of RAM, but is used as a Media Center PC
and Microsoft wants it to say at 512MB for testing. It does OK and is
actually usable. Records fine, however playback is still jumpy.

How about posting what you are using? Why are you using the SKUs you are?

Jeff Warren



"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uV%23E4qogGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> Hello everyone,
>
> I would like to know who here is running Windows Vista beta 2 x86 and x64
> or both, which Editions, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business or Ulitmate.
>
> What has prevented you from giving either platform the thumbs up, what you
> do like or don't like about either platform, what is missing from the x64
> version that has always been the 32-bit version.
>
> I am going to include 5381 and 5365 x64, since a lot of persons might
> still not have obtained BETA 2 yet.
> --
> --
> Andre
> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>
>

Hi Jeff,

Good news on on Cisco VPN client, Cisco is working on it and you can expect
an update just after Vista is released. As for the Print to PDF feature in
x64, this is in the realm of Adobe I guess, since PDF drive needs to also be
64-bit native.

As for me and my setup:

System 1: (Desktop)
Pentium 4 HT 3.2 GHz x86 processor
Windows Vista Ultimate x86
2.5 GBs of RAM
nVidia Geforce FX 5200 128 MB AGP 1024 by 768 32-bit
Dual booting with XP Pro x86

System 2: (Laptop)
Pentium 4 M 2.0 Ghz x86 processor
Windows Vista Business x86
768 MBs of RAM
nVidia Geforce 4 Go 32 MB
Dual booting with XP Pro x86, Vista Home Premium (5308), Longhorn Server
(5308)

System 3: (Desktop)
AMD Sempron 2600 1.6 GHz x86-x64
Windows Vista Ultimate x64
512 MBs of RAM
nVidia Geforce FX 5200 128 MB AGP 1024 by 768 32-bit
Dual booting with XP Pro x86, XP Pro x64, Server 2003 x86, Server 2003 x64

I have seen tremendous improvements in areas of performance, such as the
install time, 5381 took 75 mins, 5384, 35 mins. MCE is still shaky, I still
see bugs from 5308 that have not been fixed, but were promised to be fixed
after build 5335, 5346 and 5355. AutoCAD 2006 fails horribly, lots of apps
still not working, I am hoping for a miracle.
--
--
Andre
Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta

"Jeff Warren" <user@localhost> wrote in message
news:2AC8A2A5-1B11-4782-B1CF-CC13E8039880@microsoft.com...

> Hi Andre,
>
> Here is a summary of some of the machines I am testing, all using Beta 2.
>
> System 1:
> Pentium 4 1.8GHz
> 2.0GB RAM
> ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB AGP 1600x1200x32
> x86 Business
> ATI Beta 2 drivers from their website
> Dual booting from Bootable DVD install with Windows XP Professional SP2
> (production OS)
>
> Performance is much worse that Windows XP. Cisco VPN Client is a big
> showstopper keeping it from daily use. Just navigating around is slower
> and I much prefer things to be snappy rather than pretty, although both
> would be great. Disabled UAP on this one to make QuickBooks 2006 run.
>
> System 2:
> Pentium D 3.0 EM64T
> 2.0GB RAM
> ATI X600 PCI-X 256MB 1920x1200x32
> x64 and x86 Business
> ATI Beta 2 drivers from their website
> Dual booting from Bootable DVD install with Windows XP Professional SP2
>
> Overall performance is better on this machine compared to the one above,
> but not as good as Windows XP. QuickBooks print to PDF feature doesn't
> work in x64 for Windows XP or Windows Vista x64, so at is one main reason
> I use x86 on this machine more often. All drivers install and work OK.
> Video performance on Windows Energy screensaver is not as good as the
> system above for some reason. Haven't got to test many apps on this one,
> but will next week. Also, I plan on running x64 a little more despite the
> QuickBooks issue.
>
> System 3:
> Pentium 4 3.0 HT
> 512MB RAM
> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AGP 1024x768
> x86 Ultimate
> ATI Beta 2 drivers from their website
> ATI 550 Tuners (x2)
>
> This one really chokes with 512MB of RAM, but is used as a Media Center PC
> and Microsoft wants it to say at 512MB for testing. It does OK and is
> actually usable. Records fine, however playback is still jumpy.
>
> How about posting what you are using? Why are you using the SKUs you are?
>
> Jeff Warren
>
>
>
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uV%23E4qogGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I would like to know who here is running Windows Vista beta 2 x86 and x64
>> or both, which Editions, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business or Ulitmate.
>>
>> What has prevented you from giving either platform the thumbs up, what
>> you do like or don't like about either platform, what is missing from the
>> x64 version that has always been the 32-bit version.
>>
>> I am going to include 5381 and 5365 x64, since a lot of persons might
>> still not have obtained BETA 2 yet.
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
>> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
>> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
>> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>>
>>

>

QuickBooks uses a third party PDF engine -from Amyuni. If one buys the
current version of Amyuni PDF converter, installs it, and renames it to
"QuickBooks PDF Converter" then it will work, but I don't want to spend more
money on an application I just spent $399.00USD on.

Looks like you have the AMD ready for just about anything with all of those
OSs on there!

I have been thinking - I may just create persistent VPN tunnel to the Cisco
Concentrators using a PIX on my end, then I will not need the VPN Client .
That should work in the near term.

How does the AMD do with 512MB or RAM? Have you noticed a lot of swapping?

BTW, all of my systems will run Glass, however I have been using Windows
Classic lately to compare the performance.

Jeff

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:uoTz1kpgGHA.3996@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Hi Jeff,
>
> Good news on on Cisco VPN client, Cisco is working on it and you can
> expect an update just after Vista is released. As for the Print to PDF
> feature in x64, this is in the realm of Adobe I guess, since PDF drive
> needs to also be 64-bit native.
>
> As for me and my setup:
>
> System 1: (Desktop)
> Pentium 4 HT 3.2 GHz x86 processor
> Windows Vista Ultimate x86
> 2.5 GBs of RAM
> nVidia Geforce FX 5200 128 MB AGP 1024 by 768 32-bit
> Dual booting with XP Pro x86
>
> System 2: (Laptop)
> Pentium 4 M 2.0 Ghz x86 processor
> Windows Vista Business x86
> 768 MBs of RAM
> nVidia Geforce 4 Go 32 MB
> Dual booting with XP Pro x86, Vista Home Premium (5308), Longhorn Server
> (5308)
>
> System 3: (Desktop)
> AMD Sempron 2600 1.6 GHz x86-x64
> Windows Vista Ultimate x64
> 512 MBs of RAM
> nVidia Geforce FX 5200 128 MB AGP 1024 by 768 32-bit
> Dual booting with XP Pro x86, XP Pro x64, Server 2003 x86, Server 2003 x64
>
> I have seen tremendous improvements in areas of performance, such as the
> install time, 5381 took 75 mins, 5384, 35 mins. MCE is still shaky, I
> still see bugs from 5308 that have not been fixed, but were promised to be
> fixed after build 5335, 5346 and 5355. AutoCAD 2006 fails horribly, lots
> of apps still not working, I am hoping for a miracle.
> --
> --
> Andre
> Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com
> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
> Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
>
> "Jeff Warren" <user@localhost> wrote in message
> news:2AC8A2A5-1B11-4782-B1CF-CC13E8039880@microsoft.com...

>> Hi Andre,
>>
>> Here is a summary of some of the machines I am testing, all using Beta 2.
>>
>> System 1:
>> Pentium 4 1.8GHz
>> 2.0GB RAM
>> ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128MB AGP 1600x1200x32
>> x86 Business
>> ATI Beta 2 drivers from their website
>> Dual booting from Bootable DVD install with Windows XP Professional SP2
>> (production OS)
>>
>> Performance is much worse that Windows XP. Cisco VPN Client is a big
>> showstopper keeping it from daily use. Just navigating around is slower
>> and I much prefer things to be snappy rather than pretty, although both
>> would be great. Disabled UAP on this one to make QuickBooks 2006 run.
>>
>> System 2:
>> Pentium D 3.0 EM64T
>> 2.0GB RAM
>> ATI X600 PCI-X 256MB 1920x1200x32
>> x64 and x86 Business
>> ATI Beta 2 drivers from their website
>> Dual booting from Bootable DVD install with Windows XP Professional SP2
>>
>> Overall performance is better on this machine compared to the one above,
>> but not as good as Windows XP. QuickBooks print to PDF feature doesn't
>> work in x64 for Windows XP or Windows Vista x64, so at is one main reason
>> I use x86 on this machine more often. All drivers install and work OK.
>> Video performance on Windows Energy screensaver is not as good as the
>> system above for some reason. Haven't got to test many apps on this one,
>> but will next week. Also, I plan on running x64 a little more despite
>> the QuickBooks issue.
>>
>> System 3:
>> Pentium 4 3.0 HT
>> 512MB RAM
>> ATI Radeon 9800 Pro AGP 1024x768
>> x86 Ultimate
>> ATI Beta 2 drivers from their website
>> ATI 550 Tuners (x2)
>>
>> This one really chokes with 512MB of RAM, but is used as a Media Center
>> PC and Microsoft wants it to say at 512MB for testing. It does OK and is
>> actually usable. Records fine, however playback is still jumpy.
>>
>> How about posting what you are using? Why are you using the SKUs you
>> are?
>>
>> Jeff Warren
>>
>>
>>
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:uV%23E4qogGHA.3456@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> I would like to know who here is running Windows Vista beta 2 x86 and
>>> x64 or both, which Editions, Home Basic, Home Premium, Business or
>>> Ulitmate.
>>>
>>> What has prevented you from giving either platform the thumbs up, what
>>> you do like or don't like about either platform, what is missing from
>>> the x64 version that has always been the 32-bit version.
>>>
>>> I am going to include 5381 and 5365 x64, since a lot of persons might
>>> still not have obtained BETA 2 yet.
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Andre
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>>>
>>>

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