Boot Manager issue: dual boot vista 64 ultimate / windows 7 ultimate

Posted: 01-26-2009, 08:40 AM

Hi,

I have a HP pavilion laptop which came with 64 bit vista ultimat
pre-installed.

I shrinked the OS partition (160 GB), created new partition (40 GB) fo
64 bit windows 7 ultimate. After installation of Windows 7, I cannot se
the vista ultimate boot option when I boot my PC.

When I boot into Windows 7, I still can see the vista partition. Bu
instead of C: it is now displayed as E:

I used the HP Recovery Disc to repair windows vista but I can only se
a blank blue screen with the mouse pointer.

How can I recover the vista?

Thank you,
Mahesh

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Boot Manager issue: dual boot vista 64 ultimate / windows 7 ultimate


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thecreator
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Re: Boot Manager issue: dual boot vista 64 ultimate / windows 7 ultimate
Posted: 01-26-2009, 04:34 PM
Hi Mahesh,

When you boot into Windows 7 Ultimate, any other partition that was the
true C: partition is assigned another Drive Letter by Windows 7 Ultimate
operating system. You made the mistake of not booting back into Windows
Vista after you shrank the Vista partition and before you installed Windows
7 Ultimate.

You also complicated the matter by running the HP Recovery option,
because it is based on the initial size of Drive C:, not the new size of the
partition.

I would start over completely.

Delete the Windows 7 Ultimate partition and increase the Drive C:
partition and rerun the HP Recovery option. Once you can get back into
Windows Vista, check operation.

Now redo the shrinking of the C: partition. Before you reinstall Windows
7, boot into Windows Vista to check operation.

After you boot into Windows 7 Ultimate, the Vista partition will have
another Drive Letter associated with it.

But, after you select Vista to boot into, Windows 7 Ultimate will be
another Drive Letter associated with it from the viewpoint of Vista.


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"mahesh_australia" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
news:24d02502f6856532f8d869b1eb4d2c44@nntp-gateway.com...
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a HP pavilion laptop which came with 64 bit vista ultimate
> pre-installed.
>
> I shrinked the OS partition (160 GB), created new partition (40 GB) for
> 64 bit windows 7 ultimate. After installation of Windows 7, I cannot see
> the vista ultimate boot option when I boot my PC.
>
> When I boot into Windows 7, I still can see the vista partition. But
> instead of C: it is now displayed as E:
>
> I used the HP Recovery Disc to repair windows vista but I can only see
> a blank blue screen with the mouse pointer.
>
> How can I recover the vista?
>
> Thank you,
> Mahesh.
>
>
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> mahesh_australia

mahesh_australia
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Re: Boot Manager issue: dual boot vista 64 ultimate / windows 7 ultimate
Posted: 01-27-2009, 02:11 AM

Hi 'thecreator'

Thank you so much for taking time in replying.

The recovery DVD didnt help because I updated the vista to SP1. I don
have the vista original installation DVD as I am just provided only wit
the recovery DVD.

Now, my PC displays the OS options in DOS as follows
1. Windows
2. Vista Ultimate (Recovered

Previously I was not able to see this screen as it was directly bootin
into Windows 7. I think the recovery DVD did something in the backgroun
because as I said earlier that inserting the recovery DVD just display
only the blue screen with the mouse pointer.

Do you think it is safe to delete the Windows 7 partition from Vist
and extend the vista partition? After doing this will I get a erro
message that boot manager is missing or will I be able to log into vist
directly.

Thanks
Mahesh

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lakmilis
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Re: Boot Manager issue: dual boot vista 64 ultimate / windows 7 ultimate
Posted: 01-27-2009, 02:35 AM

hehe mahesh... Ok.. Now I see...


Ok.. before you worry too much.. yes.. even with updating to SP1 you
can still recover your Vista to AS IT WAS WHEN DELIVERED.. meaning the
original partitions too! (THIS takes a long time and you WILL LOSE
everything on ALL partitions)

BUT ! the good news is.. your problem is only a bcd problem (the boot
loader of vista and W7)...

If you can in recovery console.. log into either W7 OR VISTA as I
stated in your other post and run the commands I said.. try first the
Vista partition for example (which should add W7 onto the vista
partition) and then you should be able to dual boot fine. If not, repeat
the bootrec/bootsect in recovery console on W7 partition. If that fails
too, write back. (if it works, you could also drop a note by the way )


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lakmilis
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Re: Boot Manager issue: dual boot vista 64 ultimate / windows 7 ultimate
Posted: 01-27-2009, 02:40 AM

POST 2: mahesh... NO.. dont remove the partition yet.. be patient!!! A
first of all... if you say that the recovery DVD doesnt give you a
option to go into a system recovery command prompt /console (to typ
things like dir, c: cd boot etc

THEN since you have internet, find the site I was talking about.. I a
sorry. I'm pretty busy myself right now with something and forgot th
site.. but they let you download a recovery disc image for vista (x6
too) which I personally used to fix a problem similar to yours a fe
weeks back

When you got that and made the disc and you can log in.. then like
say, try on Vista drive (you should recognise it not by letter but b
content... by typing 'dir' at the prompt without quotes obviously)

bootrec /fixmbr etc etc.. when you rebuild, the bootsect program shoul
find both vista and W7 and offer you to add them.. just click yes t
both. and do it in the order I stated in the above post..

Good luck

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lakmilis
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Re: Boot Manager issue: dual boot vista 64 ultimate / windows 7 ultimate
Posted: 01-27-2009, 02:42 AM

the creator... Windows 7 beta asn precisely that.. not a productio
release yet.. much can change... sure.. to get best feedback we ar
getting an equivalent evaluation as 'ultimate' but it's just confusin
to call it that lol :

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SIW2
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Re: Boot Manager issue: dual boot vista 64 ultimate / windows 7 ultimate
Posted: 01-27-2009, 03:24 AM

mahesh_australia;950562 Wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a HP pavilion laptop which came with 64 bit vista ultimat
> pre-installed.
>
> I shrinked the OS partition (160 GB), created new partition (40 GB) fo
> 64 bit windows 7 ultimate. After installation of Windows 7, I cannot se
> the vista ultimate boot option when I boot my PC.
>
> When I boot into Windows 7, I still can see the vista partition. Bu
> instead of C: it is now displayed as E:
>
> I used the HP Recovery Disc to repair windows vista but I can only se
> a blank blue screen with the mouse pointer.
>
> How can I recover the vista?
>
> Thank you
> Mahesh
Hello Mahesh

You may find these useful

'Download: Windows Vista x64 Recovery Disc &#x2014; The NeoSmart Files
(http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/downlo...recovery-disc/

http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/19...ry-options.htm

'Recovering the Vista Bootloader from the DVD - NeoSmart Technologie
Wiki
(http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBC...r+from+the+DVD

Hope it help

SIW

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lakmilis
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Re: Boot Manager issue: dual boot vista 64 ultimate / windows 7 ultimate
Posted: 01-27-2009, 07:09 PM

There ya go.. thats the disc I was on about... it would save you both W
and Vista with minor trouble but ah well...

Even if you format W7 , your vista bootloader is corrupted and needs t
be rebuilt as far as I can see. And I told you to be patient... T
extend the vista partition when it is not* bootable , hence not stabl
is just adding to problems lol... but ah well... If you really don'
care at all about that partition vista (you certainly don't seem to hol
respect for it or you would listen hehe).. why dont you just install
factory image again dang :

sigh

SIW2;951401 Wrote:
> > mahesh_australia;950562 Wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > I have a HP pavilion laptop which came with 64 bit vista ultimat
> > pre-installed.
> >
> > I shrinked the OS partition (160 GB), created new partition (40 GB) fo
> > 64 bit windows 7 ultimate. After installation of Windows 7, I cannot se
> > the vista ultimate boot option when I boot my PC.
> >
> > When I boot into Windows 7, I still can see the vista partition. Bu
> > instead of C: it is now displayed as E:
> >
> > I used the HP Recovery Disc to repair windows vista but I can only se
> > a blank blue screen with the mouse pointer.
> >
> > How can I recover the vista?
> >
> > Thank you
> > Mahesh.> >
>
>
> Hello Mahesh
>
> You may find these useful
>
> 'Download: Windows Vista x64 Recovery Disc &#x2014; The NeoSmar
> Files
> (http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/downlo...recovery-disc/
>
> http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/19...ry-options.htm
>
> 'Recovering the Vista Bootloader from the DVD - NeoSmart Technologie
> Wiki
> (http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBC...r+from+the+DVD
>
> Hope it help
>
> SIW
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mahesh_australia
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Re: Boot Manager issue: dual boot vista 64 ultimate / windows 7 ultimate
Posted: 01-28-2009, 02:52 AM

Hi SIW2 -> Thanks for the wonderful information.

hey Lakmilis, do you think that restoring to factory settings fro
Vista will delete the W7 partition and reinstate my PC to how it wa
when I bought it? If so, that will be the best option for me & I ca
install the vista SP1 + other softwares again.

sry for being a pain guys... I am a beginner and I've got only th
Vista recovery DVD and NOT the installation DVD. This HP vista recover
DVD was working fine until I updated to SP1. So, I dont want to regre
after its too late.

Thanks again
Mahesh

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lakmilis
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Re: Boot Manager issue: dual boot vista 64 ultimate / windows 7 ultimate
Posted: 01-28-2009, 07:46 AM

Mahesh.. the nice links provided by SIW2 are the ones I mentioned in th
other post of yours... Yes had you tried them you would of been able t
reinstall your bootloader (which is your problem)... By formatting W
whilst you have a problem with either one of the operative system
leaves you with fewer options... thats is why I recommended you not* t
do it till you fixed your problem

Ok but to your question... yes.. even if you update to SP1 , what yo
are doing is upgrading your system.. just like putting on W7 ,
different system. Hence when you tried your recovery discs.. the
couldn't repair the SP1 apparently

However... by choosing a complete reinstall to factory settings implie
that the discs (regardless if your discs would have W7, Vista SP1, XP
Linux, etc etc) will be wiped clean and reinstalled with the images o
them (image meaning a 'copy' of a system)

So yes... the vista recovery DVD and you choose a complete factor
reinstall equates to a system you had at day 1

NOTE... ALL your partitions and data will be lost.. (put anything o
importance if you still can on external drives or so)

Let us know how it turns out for ya eh :

But yes.. from the first post, I could see you aren't exactl
experienced. Please do NOT install BETA OS on your laptop then... it I
asking for trouble ;

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