boot partition size

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i have some question on boot partition size and dile system ntfs
1) is possible make an immage indipendent from the hard disk size?
2) if the answer at the first question is no, is possibile make a immage valid for all partition > 5 g
3) if the answer at second question is yes. what is the number to insert in target designer 5000 or 5120 (1024 * 5
4) is possible that immage don't work fine with next version of Xpe, can anyone tolk on cut of point
BEST REGARD

1.
Kernel mode images are independent on partition size.
Eval version (no activation number entered) with minlogon is independent on
partition size. There is even possibility that you can use post FBA
registered version of image based on minlogon.

For winlogon answer is no.

2. Yes
3. As mentioned in TD: "For partitions that are greater than or equal to
5GB, enter "5000" here (regardless of the actual size)"

4. I don't understand.
Image is created after you complete build process.
If you are interested in if XPe tools SP2 will be able to load your project.
Then answer should be positive.
Also I would not be concerned that value 5000 will not be supported, but
some other changes made in SP2 could affect other things in your image.

After upgrade you should do extensive functionality tests of your image.

Regards,
Slobodan

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"guidi fabio" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> hi
> i have some question on boot partition size and dile system ntfs:
> 1) is possible make an immage indipendent from the hard disk size?
> 2) if the answer at the first question is no, is possibile make a immage

valid for all partition > 5 gb

> 3) if the answer at second question is yes. what is the number to insert

in target designer 5000 or 5120 (1024 * 5)

> 4) is possible that immage don't work fine with next version of Xpe, can

anyone tolk on cut of point?

> BEST REGARDS
>

ok thank yuo for the aswe
if i make an immage with activation number, winlogon, and boot partition size 5000 this immage work fine on all hardisk with size > 5 gbyte but the immage will be not work fine after upgrade on next target designer, and thereis the possibility that the boot size must match with primary hard disk. is correct
NOT
i make an immage with boot partition size 20000 (20 GB) and i make a primary partition with 8 Gb and work fin
i make an immage with boot partition size 5000 and i make a primary partition with 8 Gb and it not work the f.b.a not star
best regard

Hi guidi,

One of us (probably both of us) have problems with English.

When you say after upgrade on next target designer, what does it means?
You used non SP1 version and then you upgrade to SP1 version of tools?
Or you have applied all QFE's?

Based on your note.

> i make an immage with boot partition size 5000 and i make a primary

partition with 8 Gb and it not work the f.b.a not start

When you say "FBA not start". What do you mean?
Have you seen any XPe loading progress bar, or anything?

If you have problems with partition size, XPe will stop on the beginning of
FBA (fba will be executed).
If you don't have any kind of progress bar.
Is it possible that your partition is not bootable at all?
I think that we need more info.

Regards,
Slobodan

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"guidi fabio" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> ok thank yuo for the aswer
> if i make an immage with activation number, winlogon, and boot partition

size 5000 this immage work fine on all hardisk with size > 5 gbyte but the
immage will be not work fine after upgrade on next target designer, and
thereis the possibility that the boot size must match with primary hard
disk. is correct?

> NOTE
> i make an immage with boot partition size 20000 (20 GB) and i make a

primary partition with 8 Gb and work fine

> i make an immage with boot partition size 5000 and i make a primary

partition with 8 Gb and it not work the f.b.a not start

> best regard

I have not used large partition sizes for a long time, so I can't tell you
with 100% certainty.
But I remember being able to use 5000 for partition size larger than 5GB.

Personally I hope that MS will remove this strange protection, as I see it
is pointless and it only limit us and make a burden on development.

Regards,
Slobodan

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"Guidi Fabio" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> My version of Windows XPE Tools has SP1 actually. I have to load my XPE

images on a wide variety of HDs, so the solution I found was to set in TD a
partition size of 81920 Mb, that I expect to be larger than any HD I will
install XPE on.

> This solution works fine now. Anyway, I heard that with SP2 I will not be

able anymore to use in TD numbers different to real target partition sizes.

>
> One more thing: setting in TD 5000 Mb, partitions greater than

approximately 5 Gb give problems as "c0000221 unknown hard error
\systemroot\system32\ntdll.dll" or blank screens after founding the OS boot
record (this demonstrates that the partition was active and bootable, am I
right?). This goes against the tip given by TD: " For partitions that are
greater than or equal to 5GB, enter "5000" here (regardless of the actual
size)."

>

In Target Designer, under the settings for my configuration (the slx file), I
need to enter the correct values for the hard disk where the Windows XPe OS
will be deployed. One of the values is "Boot partition size." A number is
already in there: 1024 MB. How can I verify the size of my boot partition to
ensure that that value is accurate?

If you want precise value of your partition size use
1. diskpart.exe
2. select disk x
3. list part

Regards,
Slobodan


"Galisteo8" <Galisteo8@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:6AB6FF17-1604-4C28-B4EE-DF9CBC5F9FDC@microsoft.com...

> In Target Designer, under the settings for my configuration (the slx file), I
> need to enter the correct values for the hard disk where the Windows XPe OS
> will be deployed. One of the values is "Boot partition size." A number is
> already in there: 1024 MB. How can I verify the size of my boot partition to
> ensure that that value is accurate?

Thanks!

"Slobodan Brcin (eMVP)" wrote:

> If you want precise value of your partition size use
> 1. diskpart.exe
> 2. select disk x
> 3. list part
>

I am building XPe image for a computer that is normally booting from a HDD

>5000MB. As a backup solution we have a CF of 512Mb.

My question is about importance of having correct 'boot partion size'
setting in TA. I have set the size to 5000 and the image will boot OK on both
HDD and CF. Does anyone know if this can cause problems for the future?
Should i build one image for CF with 500MB boot partion size and one image
for HDD with 5000MB?

Thanx
Oyvind Hansen

I thought I remembered that it was only used for estimating the size of
the run time, and thus not important, but when I checked the Target
Designer Help (I have FP2007 Build 2 installed), it says this:

BOOT PARTITION SIZE:
Specifies the size of the partition that holds your run-time image, in
megabytes.
The default is 1024 MB.

NOTE: The size of the partition affects the functionality of the
Winlogon component. When a partition size is larger than 1000 MB, the
Winlogon component requires the presence of the Winlogon Support Files
component. If your partition is smaller than 1000 MB, be sure to
indicate its size here so that Winlogon can function without the
Winlogon Support Files component. Otherwise you will not be able to log
on to your run-time image by using Winlogon.

So apparently if you are using Minlogon on your small image it will be
OK. Otherwise it is recommended that you make two builds.

Steves
StevesATeyeDASHimagingDOTcom


Oyvind wrote:

> I am building XPe image for a computer that is normally booting from a HDD

> My question is about importance of having correct 'boot partion size'
> setting in TA. I have set the size to 5000 and the image will boot OK on both
> HDD and CF. Does anyone know if this can cause problems for the future?
> Should i build one image for CF with 500MB boot partion size and one image
> for HDD with 5000MB?
>
> Thanx
> Oyvind Hansen