bootvis made my startup longer

Posted: 07-08-2003, 08:09 PM

Alistair

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My winXP Home was taking almost 3 mins to startup (measured from power on,
to the point of no disk activity), so after seeing bootvis recommended all
over the web I tried it.

Now my startup is almost up to 3 and a half minutes! Anyone else hear of
this happening?

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Gerry Cornell

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Re: bootvis made my startup longer

Posted: 07-08-2003, 09:45 PM

Alistair

Have you looked for clues in Event Viewer?

1. To open Event Viewer, click Start, click Control Panel, double-click Administrative Tools, double-click Event Viewer and select System for system errors or Application for application errors. Look for Error in the Type column and double click on Error to reveal a Description of the error. This can be copied by using Clipboard Viewer (see later).

2. Part of the Description of the error will include a link, which you should double click for further information and you can copy using copy and paste.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp
(Please note the hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only)

3. For some errors you will find "+ Related Knowledge Base Article", which if double clicked takes you to the Knowledge Base Article containing a suggested solution.

There always seems to be a step 2 but not always a step 3.

A tip for posting copies of Error Reports (Step 1). Run Event Viewer and double click on the error you want to copy. In the window which appears is a button resembling two pages. Double click the button and close Event Viewer. Now start your message ( email )and do a paste into the body of the message. This will paste the info from the Event Viewer Error Report complete with links into the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer. It can be helpful to place a shortcut to Event Viewer on your Desktop.

Check what is loading at start up?

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Hope this helps.

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"Alistair" <Rocky@GhostRecon.net> wrote in message news:eXq$5RYRDHA.3192@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> My winXP Home was taking almost 3 mins to startup (measured from power on,
> to the point of no disk activity), so after seeing bootvis recommended all
> over the web I tried it.
>
> Now my startup is almost up to 3 and a half minutes! Anyone else hear of
> this happening?
>
>
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Re: bootvis made my startup longer

Posted: 07-08-2003, 11:10 PM

"Peter" <peterf41@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Did you use BootVis according to instructions? There is an effective and
> ineffective way to apply it, i believe..

Mine was apparantly the ineffective way

(

Trace>Next Boot (1)
Trace>Optimise

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Re: bootvis made my startup longer

Posted: 07-09-2003, 02:33 PM

That's the purpose of bootvis. To allow system mfg to optimise boot times.

You can use bootvis the same way. If you thought optimise would help you then NO. Windows does the optimisation automatically. Bootvis just does it on command so it measures an optimised system.

Bootvis is a troubleshooting tool. Use it as such.
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"Alistair" <Rocky@GhostRecon.net> wrote in message news:Oqys61gRDHA.1688@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

>
> "mrtee" <hingelickeratnew.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:uCfg5CbRDHA.2636@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Read the "white paper" link to it is on the Bootvis page.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwdev/...oot-winxp.mspx
>
> That page? It doesn't make sense to me - it talks about a "paper" that
> provides guidelines for system manufacturers to improve boot and resume
> times for new PCs, but fails to link to the "paper" ?
>
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Re: bootvis made my startup longer

Posted: 07-10-2003, 04:45 AM

Bootvis measures boot times for computer manufacturers to make sure their hardware/drivers isn't holding things up (to get the XP logo it has to boot in X seconds).

So it can measure the real world time (over a few minutes rather than an unknown amount of time) it has to tune the OS now rather than waiting for the third boot (when windows will do it) after the computer has been idle for a while. Windows redoes it every third day (if you're idle).

So it makes an API call ProcessIdleTasks which does all the idle processing now so one can experiment with drivers etc without waiting three days to do the next step. You can do this by hand by typing in Start - Run

rundll32.exe advapi32.dll,ProcessIdleTasks

It does some System restore stuff as well. For the defragging stuff typing in Start Run
defrag c: /b
will just run the defragger in it's boot/app speedup mode only (won't defrag document files or anything).

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"Alistair" <Rocky@GhostRecon.net> wrote in message news:#BwU2wjRDHA.2252@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

>
> "David Candy" <david@mvps.org> wrote in message
> news:u0dKg6hRDHA.1804@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >That's the purpose of bootvis. To allow system mfg to optimise boot times.
> >You can use bootvis the same way. If you thought optimise would help you
> then NO.
>
> Yeh that's exactly what I thought, after reading suff like this
>
> http://www.weethet.nl/english/hardware_bootvis.php
>
> "BOOTVIS, to improve boot time (ie. Startup time) of your Windows XP PC.I
> tried it and can only say: Try it! It will most definitely improve boot
> time!"
>
> and this
>
> http://bizforums.itrc.hp.com/cm/Ques...9cd0f9,00.html
>
> "Someone here suggested using Bootvis from Microsoft's site. This was an
> excellent idea. I was able to find that almost a FULL MINUTE or more could
> be eliminated by disabling all the network items on unused "LAN"
> connections."
>
> and many more from Google.
>
>
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