Dshai
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Re: Browser stops working but Internet still connected
Posted: 04-02-2007, 02:34 AM
I would have to agree, actually sounds suspiciously like a DNS issue, a
strange one though, I've had problems in the past where a DNS server (kinda
redundant there) has gone down and I couldn't browse but some IM's and email
still worked.

--
Dshai

Life is limited only by those living it...
"DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:%23Qo7$a$cHHA.4388@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
> Yes, that is correct, Dshai. Which is why I think the problem must be
> from the DSL modem outward.
>
>
> "Dshai" <dshai@indy.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:%23DQnnS8cHHA.4684@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> Just for the sake of clarification, when this occurs it's both machines
>> that have no internet (read that browsing) capabilities? When one gets it
>> back the other does as well?
>>
>> --
>>
>> Dshai
>>
>> Life is only limited by those living it...
>>
>> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:u5maO$ycHHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> I'm having this problem on a Vista 64 bit machine, but it also happens
>>> on a machine using plain old 32-bit XP (though the processor is a single
>>> core, AMD 64-bit).
>>>
>>> I sometimes have problems connecting to websites using the browser. But
>>> at the same time, I can still check email and participate in NGs (as I
>>> am now). I can download data from financial institutions using Quicken.
>>> Instant messenger programs work.
>>>
>>> So, while the browser has trouble connecting, the Internet connection is
>>> obviously still there and working because these other programs show that
>>> to be the case. I tried installing the Opera browser, and it can't
>>> connect either during these periods either. So it's not just an IE
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Both the Vista 64 and the XP 32 machines go through the same DSL modem.
>>> The Vista machine is connected wirelessly to the DSL modem.
>>>
>>> Both are using IE7. The Vista machine is using the version that came on
>>> the Vista Ultimate 64-bit OEM disk. The 32-bit machine is using a
>>> version I downloaded several months earlier.
>>>
>>> While I was in the process of writing this, a box popped up in the
>>> corner of my screen telling me that Avast AV has been updated. Usually
>>> that box pops up at bootup. But just now the machine had been on for
>>> several minutes when it popped up. Once that happened, I figured
>>> whatever had been the problem had ended, so I fired up Opera and it
>>> connected. (Before anyone says the problem was caused by the AV update,
>>> I can assure you that's not the case. The problem happens on two
>>> machines and I have that AV only loaded on one. I've also had the AV
>>> update on bootup, but then have this connectivity problem show up
>>> later.)
>>>
>>> Two more things:
>>>
>>> 1) When this problem happens, if I put my cursor over the internet
>>> connection icon in the system tray (on the Vista machine), it will show
>>> the connection and say "local access only." When I'm not having problems
>>> with the browser, it will show "Local and Internet."
>>>
>>> 2) When this problem occurs, I usually can still access my company's
>>> email website. I'm not sure, but I assume my company's email server is
>>> in the same city as my home, which is why I can access it. But I can't
>>> access any other internet sites.
>>>
>>> So, I guess my questions are:
>>>
>>> 1) What is "local access only"? Is it a problem with my ISP? With my DSL
>>> modem?
>>>
>>> 2) And why, when in "local access" mode, can I still get stuff from
>>> non-local sources while using Windows Mail, Quicken and instant
>>> messenger?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

Carlos
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Re: Browser stops working but Internet still connected
Posted: 04-03-2007, 07:32 PM
John:
Had this problem on Sunday (XP x64).
Followed your advice (system restore to a prior state) and everything was
back to normal again.
The only things I had done were uninstalling a game (SpongeBob) and Samsung
mobile phone programs.
Don't know which one caused the problem or whether there was something else.
Carlos


"John Barnes" wrote:
> So, exactly what do you have to lose by doing a system restore and seeing if
> it fixes your problem on one machine, before you get too far away and have
> good reasons for not wanting to do it. You can always undo it 24 hours
> later if it doesn't help.
>
> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:erRfEfzcHHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >
> > And it's strange that I can get to my company's email website -- USING
> > internet explorer -- while I can't get to any other websites. I guess
> > that's what local access means.
> >
> >
> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> > news:%237ZfHczcHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>I also had the same connection bubble you did, with local - internet and
> >>then only local. Also tried all the ipconfig options I knew of and that
> >>were suggested.
> >>
> >>
> >> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23ZM$%23RzcHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>> Thanks, John.
> >>> Since my problem is occurring on two machines, I don't think that
> >>> anything you do to a specific machine is really a solution. I'm thinking
> >>> it must be from the DSL modem and out; not from anything that happens
> >>> between the DSL modem and anything connected to it in the house.
> >>> Curious: Is that your real email address or a spam trap? I'm on
> >>> Bellsouth DSL. Was just checking to make sure you're not as well, cause
> >>> if you are, that could be an explanation. Also note that BellSouth and
> >>> ATT just merged, so if you're on any provider somehow connected with
> >>> AT&T, that may be a common point as well.
> >>> Also, I'm in southeastern Louisiana. Are you anywhere close to that?
> >>> I'm just trying to see if we can narrow down commonalities between our
> >>> two situations.
> >>>
> >>> The problem for me is intermittent. It may happen several times in the
> >>> course of a few hours.
> >>> I have sometimes disconnected the power from the modem, waited at least
> >>> 30 seconds and reconnected and then restarted the 32-bit machine that's
> >>> hard-wired to the modem. Sometimes that seems to fix the problem. But
> >>> it's also possible the problem fixed itself during the time when the
> >>> computer was shut down and the modem powered down.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> >>> news:OOGjfLzcHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >>>> Sounds almost exactly like the problem I had several weeks ago. None
> >>>> of the few ideas helped and I resorted to a system restore. You can
> >>>> check my postings and replies from 3/19 and earlier. My find isn't
> >>>> working for some reason, maybe yours will. Both had IE7 in the subject
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >>>> news:u5maO$ycHHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >>>>> I'm having this problem on a Vista 64 bit machine, but it also happens
> >>>>> on a machine using plain old 32-bit XP (though the processor is a
> >>>>> single core, AMD 64-bit).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I sometimes have problems connecting to websites using the browser.
> >>>>> But at the same time, I can still check email and participate in NGs
> >>>>> (as I am now). I can download data from financial institutions using
> >>>>> Quicken. Instant messenger programs work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, while the browser has trouble connecting, the Internet connection
> >>>>> is obviously still there and working because these other programs show
> >>>>> that to be the case. I tried installing the Opera browser, and it
> >>>>> can't connect either during these periods either. So it's not just an
> >>>>> IE problem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Both the Vista 64 and the XP 32 machines go through the same DSL
> >>>>> modem. The Vista machine is connected wirelessly to the DSL modem.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Both are using IE7. The Vista machine is using the version that came
> >>>>> on the Vista Ultimate 64-bit OEM disk. The 32-bit machine is using a
> >>>>> version I downloaded several months earlier.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> While I was in the process of writing this, a box popped up in the
> >>>>> corner of my screen telling me that Avast AV has been updated. Usually
> >>>>> that box pops up at bootup. But just now the machine had been on for
> >>>>> several minutes when it popped up. Once that happened, I figured
> >>>>> whatever had been the problem had ended, so I fired up Opera and it
> >>>>> connected. (Before anyone says the problem was caused by the AV
> >>>>> update, I can assure you that's not the case. The problem happens on
> >>>>> two machines and I have that AV only loaded on one. I've also had the
> >>>>> AV update on bootup, but then have this connectivity problem show up
> >>>>> later.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Two more things:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) When this problem happens, if I put my cursor over the internet
> >>>>> connection icon in the system tray (on the Vista machine), it will
> >>>>> show the connection and say "local access only." When I'm not having
> >>>>> problems with the browser, it will show "Local and Internet."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2) When this problem occurs, I usually can still access my company's
> >>>>> email website. I'm not sure, but I assume my company's email server is
> >>>>> in the same city as my home, which is why I can access it. But I can't
> >>>>> access any other internet sites.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, I guess my questions are:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) What is "local access only"? Is it a problem with my ISP? With my
> >>>>> DSL modem?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2) And why, when in "local access" mode, can I still get stuff from
> >>>>> non-local sources while using Windows Mail, Quicken and instant
> >>>>> messenger?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
John Barnes
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Re: Browser stops working but Internet still connected
Posted: 04-03-2007, 08:37 PM
I have no idea what is causing the problem, but it is worrisome as it is
counter intuitive. It's too 'big brotherish' where you can't connect to
the outside world, but streaming can continue to be sent into your computer.

"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:491B98F0-B8C2-44E7-BB82-27A2661D3933@microsoft.com...
> John:
> Had this problem on Sunday (XP x64).
> Followed your advice (system restore to a prior state) and everything was
> back to normal again.
> The only things I had done were uninstalling a game (SpongeBob) and
> Samsung
> mobile phone programs.
> Don't know which one caused the problem or whether there was something
> else.
> Carlos
>
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> So, exactly what do you have to lose by doing a system restore and seeing
>> if
>> it fixes your problem on one machine, before you get too far away and
>> have
>> good reasons for not wanting to do it. You can always undo it 24 hours
>> later if it doesn't help.
>>
>> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:erRfEfzcHHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > And it's strange that I can get to my company's email website -- USING
>> > internet explorer -- while I can't get to any other websites. I guess
>> > that's what local access means.
>> >
>> >
>> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>> > news:%237ZfHczcHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >>I also had the same connection bubble you did, with local - internet
>> >>and
>> >>then only local. Also tried all the ipconfig options I knew of and
>> >>that
>> >>were suggested.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:%23ZM$%23RzcHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >>> Thanks, John.
>> >>> Since my problem is occurring on two machines, I don't think that
>> >>> anything you do to a specific machine is really a solution. I'm
>> >>> thinking
>> >>> it must be from the DSL modem and out; not from anything that happens
>> >>> between the DSL modem and anything connected to it in the house.
>> >>> Curious: Is that your real email address or a spam trap? I'm on
>> >>> Bellsouth DSL. Was just checking to make sure you're not as well,
>> >>> cause
>> >>> if you are, that could be an explanation. Also note that BellSouth
>> >>> and
>> >>> ATT just merged, so if you're on any provider somehow connected with
>> >>> AT&T, that may be a common point as well.
>> >>> Also, I'm in southeastern Louisiana. Are you anywhere close to that?
>> >>> I'm just trying to see if we can narrow down commonalities between
>> >>> our
>> >>> two situations.
>> >>>
>> >>> The problem for me is intermittent. It may happen several times in
>> >>> the
>> >>> course of a few hours.
>> >>> I have sometimes disconnected the power from the modem, waited at
>> >>> least
>> >>> 30 seconds and reconnected and then restarted the 32-bit machine
>> >>> that's
>> >>> hard-wired to the modem. Sometimes that seems to fix the problem. But
>> >>> it's also possible the problem fixed itself during the time when the
>> >>> computer was shut down and the modem powered down.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>> >>> news:OOGjfLzcHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >>>> Sounds almost exactly like the problem I had several weeks ago.
>> >>>> None
>> >>>> of the few ideas helped and I resorted to a system restore. You can
>> >>>> check my postings and replies from 3/19 and earlier. My find isn't
>> >>>> working for some reason, maybe yours will. Both had IE7 in the
>> >>>> subject
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >>>> news:u5maO$ycHHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >>>>> I'm having this problem on a Vista 64 bit machine, but it also
>> >>>>> happens
>> >>>>> on a machine using plain old 32-bit XP (though the processor is a
>> >>>>> single core, AMD 64-bit).
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I sometimes have problems connecting to websites using the browser.
>> >>>>> But at the same time, I can still check email and participate in
>> >>>>> NGs
>> >>>>> (as I am now). I can download data from financial institutions
>> >>>>> using
>> >>>>> Quicken. Instant messenger programs work.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> So, while the browser has trouble connecting, the Internet
>> >>>>> connection
>> >>>>> is obviously still there and working because these other programs
>> >>>>> show
>> >>>>> that to be the case. I tried installing the Opera browser, and it
>> >>>>> can't connect either during these periods either. So it's not just
>> >>>>> an
>> >>>>> IE problem.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Both the Vista 64 and the XP 32 machines go through the same DSL
>> >>>>> modem. The Vista machine is connected wirelessly to the DSL modem.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Both are using IE7. The Vista machine is using the version that
>> >>>>> came
>> >>>>> on the Vista Ultimate 64-bit OEM disk. The 32-bit machine is using
>> >>>>> a
>> >>>>> version I downloaded several months earlier.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> While I was in the process of writing this, a box popped up in the
>> >>>>> corner of my screen telling me that Avast AV has been updated.
>> >>>>> Usually
>> >>>>> that box pops up at bootup. But just now the machine had been on
>> >>>>> for
>> >>>>> several minutes when it popped up. Once that happened, I figured
>> >>>>> whatever had been the problem had ended, so I fired up Opera and it
>> >>>>> connected. (Before anyone says the problem was caused by the AV
>> >>>>> update, I can assure you that's not the case. The problem happens
>> >>>>> on
>> >>>>> two machines and I have that AV only loaded on one. I've also had
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> AV update on bootup, but then have this connectivity problem show
>> >>>>> up
>> >>>>> later.)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Two more things:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 1) When this problem happens, if I put my cursor over the internet
>> >>>>> connection icon in the system tray (on the Vista machine), it will
>> >>>>> show the connection and say "local access only." When I'm not
>> >>>>> having
>> >>>>> problems with the browser, it will show "Local and Internet."
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2) When this problem occurs, I usually can still access my
>> >>>>> company's
>> >>>>> email website. I'm not sure, but I assume my company's email server
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>> in the same city as my home, which is why I can access it. But I
>> >>>>> can't
>> >>>>> access any other internet sites.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> So, I guess my questions are:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 1) What is "local access only"? Is it a problem with my ISP? With
>> >>>>> my
>> >>>>> DSL modem?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2) And why, when in "local access" mode, can I still get stuff from
>> >>>>> non-local sources while using Windows Mail, Quicken and instant
>> >>>>> messenger?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
Carlos
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Re: Browser stops working but Internet still connected
Posted: 04-03-2007, 10:06 PM
I like the "big brother" comparison.
We also have our own local version in Argentina ("Gran Hermano") and even
the brazilians have their own!
Media is flooded with this big brother thing (nice way to divert people's
attention from the real issues in your country).
Carlos

"John Barnes" wrote:
> I have no idea what is causing the problem, but it is worrisome as it is
> counter intuitive. It's too 'big brotherish' where you can't connect to
> the outside world, but streaming can continue to be sent into your computer.
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:491B98F0-B8C2-44E7-BB82-27A2661D3933@microsoft.com...
> > John:
> > Had this problem on Sunday (XP x64).
> > Followed your advice (system restore to a prior state) and everything was
> > back to normal again.
> > The only things I had done were uninstalling a game (SpongeBob) and
> > Samsung
> > mobile phone programs.
> > Don't know which one caused the problem or whether there was something
> > else.
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> > "John Barnes" wrote:
> >
> >> So, exactly what do you have to lose by doing a system restore and seeing
> >> if
> >> it fixes your problem on one machine, before you get too far away and
> >> have
> >> good reasons for not wanting to do it. You can always undo it 24 hours
> >> later if it doesn't help.
> >>
> >> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> news:erRfEfzcHHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > And it's strange that I can get to my company's email website -- USING
> >> > internet explorer -- while I can't get to any other websites. I guess
> >> > that's what local access means.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:%237ZfHczcHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >>I also had the same connection bubble you did, with local - internet
> >> >>and
> >> >>then only local. Also tried all the ipconfig options I knew of and
> >> >>that
> >> >>were suggested.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:%23ZM$%23RzcHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >>> Thanks, John.
> >> >>> Since my problem is occurring on two machines, I don't think that
> >> >>> anything you do to a specific machine is really a solution. I'm
> >> >>> thinking
> >> >>> it must be from the DSL modem and out; not from anything that happens
> >> >>> between the DSL modem and anything connected to it in the house.
> >> >>> Curious: Is that your real email address or a spam trap? I'm on
> >> >>> Bellsouth DSL. Was just checking to make sure you're not as well,
> >> >>> cause
> >> >>> if you are, that could be an explanation. Also note that BellSouth
> >> >>> and
> >> >>> ATT just merged, so if you're on any provider somehow connected with
> >> >>> AT&T, that may be a common point as well.
> >> >>> Also, I'm in southeastern Louisiana. Are you anywhere close to that?
> >> >>> I'm just trying to see if we can narrow down commonalities between
> >> >>> our
> >> >>> two situations.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The problem for me is intermittent. It may happen several times in
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> course of a few hours.
> >> >>> I have sometimes disconnected the power from the modem, waited at
> >> >>> least
> >> >>> 30 seconds and reconnected and then restarted the 32-bit machine
> >> >>> that's
> >> >>> hard-wired to the modem. Sometimes that seems to fix the problem. But
> >> >>> it's also possible the problem fixed itself during the time when the
> >> >>> computer was shut down and the modem powered down.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
> >> >>> news:OOGjfLzcHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >>>> Sounds almost exactly like the problem I had several weeks ago.
> >> >>>> None
> >> >>>> of the few ideas helped and I resorted to a system restore. You can
> >> >>>> check my postings and replies from 3/19 and earlier. My find isn't
> >> >>>> working for some reason, maybe yours will. Both had IE7 in the
> >> >>>> subject
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
> >> >>>> news:u5maO$ycHHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >>>>> I'm having this problem on a Vista 64 bit machine, but it also
> >> >>>>> happens
> >> >>>>> on a machine using plain old 32-bit XP (though the processor is a
> >> >>>>> single core, AMD 64-bit).
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> I sometimes have problems connecting to websites using the browser.
> >> >>>>> But at the same time, I can still check email and participate in
> >> >>>>> NGs
> >> >>>>> (as I am now). I can download data from financial institutions
> >> >>>>> using
> >> >>>>> Quicken. Instant messenger programs work.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> So, while the browser has trouble connecting, the Internet
> >> >>>>> connection
> >> >>>>> is obviously still there and working because these other programs
> >> >>>>> show
> >> >>>>> that to be the case. I tried installing the Opera browser, and it
> >> >>>>> can't connect either during these periods either. So it's not just
> >> >>>>> an
> >> >>>>> IE problem.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Both the Vista 64 and the XP 32 machines go through the same DSL
> >> >>>>> modem. The Vista machine is connected wirelessly to the DSL modem.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Both are using IE7. The Vista machine is using the version that
> >> >>>>> came
> >> >>>>> on the Vista Ultimate 64-bit OEM disk. The 32-bit machine is using
> >> >>>>> a
> >> >>>>> version I downloaded several months earlier.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> While I was in the process of writing this, a box popped up in the
> >> >>>>> corner of my screen telling me that Avast AV has been updated.
> >> >>>>> Usually
> >> >>>>> that box pops up at bootup. But just now the machine had been on
> >> >>>>> for
> >> >>>>> several minutes when it popped up. Once that happened, I figured
> >> >>>>> whatever had been the problem had ended, so I fired up Opera and it
> >> >>>>> connected. (Before anyone says the problem was caused by the AV
> >> >>>>> update, I can assure you that's not the case. The problem happens
> >> >>>>> on
> >> >>>>> two machines and I have that AV only loaded on one. I've also had
> >> >>>>> the
> >> >>>>> AV update on bootup, but then have this connectivity problem show
> >> >>>>> up
> >> >>>>> later.)
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Two more things:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 1) When this problem happens, if I put my cursor over the internet
> >> >>>>> connection icon in the system tray (on the Vista machine), it will
> >> >>>>> show the connection and say "local access only." When I'm not
> >> >>>>> having
> >> >>>>> problems with the browser, it will show "Local and Internet."
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 2) When this problem occurs, I usually can still access my
> >> >>>>> company's
> >> >>>>> email website. I'm not sure, but I assume my company's email server
> >> >>>>> is
> >> >>>>> in the same city as my home, which is why I can access it. But I
> >> >>>>> can't
> >> >>>>> access any other internet sites.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> So, I guess my questions are:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 1) What is "local access only"? Is it a problem with my ISP? With
> >> >>>>> my
> >> >>>>> DSL modem?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> 2) And why, when in "local access" mode, can I still get stuff from
> >> >>>>> non-local sources while using Windows Mail, Quicken and instant
> >> >>>>> messenger?
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
>
>
John Barnes
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Re: Browser stops working but Internet still connected
Posted: 04-12-2007, 11:27 PM
Well, the same problem has hit my XP86 system. Haven't used the XP64 system
as there are no drivers for the wireless adapter. Will see if restore works
when I get time.


"Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:352C767E-8AD1-49F1-9BD4-2278505A80FD@microsoft.com...
>I like the "big brother" comparison.
> We also have our own local version in Argentina ("Gran Hermano") and even
> the brazilians have their own!
> Media is flooded with this big brother thing (nice way to divert people's
> attention from the real issues in your country).
> Carlos
>
> "John Barnes" wrote:
>
>> I have no idea what is causing the problem, but it is worrisome as it is
>> counter intuitive. It's too 'big brotherish' where you can't connect to
>> the outside world, but streaming can continue to be sent into your
>> computer.
>>
>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:491B98F0-B8C2-44E7-BB82-27A2661D3933@microsoft.com...
>> > John:
>> > Had this problem on Sunday (XP x64).
>> > Followed your advice (system restore to a prior state) and everything
>> > was
>> > back to normal again.
>> > The only things I had done were uninstalling a game (SpongeBob) and
>> > Samsung
>> > mobile phone programs.
>> > Don't know which one caused the problem or whether there was something
>> > else.
>> > Carlos
>> >
>> >
>> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>> >
>> >> So, exactly what do you have to lose by doing a system restore and
>> >> seeing
>> >> if
>> >> it fixes your problem on one machine, before you get too far away and
>> >> have
>> >> good reasons for not wanting to do it. You can always undo it 24
>> >> hours
>> >> later if it doesn't help.
>> >>
>> >> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:erRfEfzcHHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >
>> >> > And it's strange that I can get to my company's email website --
>> >> > USING
>> >> > internet explorer -- while I can't get to any other websites. I
>> >> > guess
>> >> > that's what local access means.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>> >> > news:%237ZfHczcHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>I also had the same connection bubble you did, with local - internet
>> >> >>and
>> >> >>then only local. Also tried all the ipconfig options I knew of and
>> >> >>that
>> >> >>were suggested.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:%23ZM$%23RzcHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>> Thanks, John.
>> >> >>> Since my problem is occurring on two machines, I don't think that
>> >> >>> anything you do to a specific machine is really a solution. I'm
>> >> >>> thinking
>> >> >>> it must be from the DSL modem and out; not from anything that
>> >> >>> happens
>> >> >>> between the DSL modem and anything connected to it in the house.
>> >> >>> Curious: Is that your real email address or a spam trap? I'm on
>> >> >>> Bellsouth DSL. Was just checking to make sure you're not as well,
>> >> >>> cause
>> >> >>> if you are, that could be an explanation. Also note that BellSouth
>> >> >>> and
>> >> >>> ATT just merged, so if you're on any provider somehow connected
>> >> >>> with
>> >> >>> AT&T, that may be a common point as well.
>> >> >>> Also, I'm in southeastern Louisiana. Are you anywhere close to
>> >> >>> that?
>> >> >>> I'm just trying to see if we can narrow down commonalities between
>> >> >>> our
>> >> >>> two situations.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The problem for me is intermittent. It may happen several times in
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> course of a few hours.
>> >> >>> I have sometimes disconnected the power from the modem, waited at
>> >> >>> least
>> >> >>> 30 seconds and reconnected and then restarted the 32-bit machine
>> >> >>> that's
>> >> >>> hard-wired to the modem. Sometimes that seems to fix the problem.
>> >> >>> But
>> >> >>> it's also possible the problem fixed itself during the time when
>> >> >>> the
>> >> >>> computer was shut down and the modem powered down.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>> news:OOGjfLzcHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>>> Sounds almost exactly like the problem I had several weeks ago.
>> >> >>>> None
>> >> >>>> of the few ideas helped and I resorted to a system restore. You
>> >> >>>> can
>> >> >>>> check my postings and replies from 3/19 and earlier. My find
>> >> >>>> isn't
>> >> >>>> working for some reason, maybe yours will. Both had IE7 in the
>> >> >>>> subject
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> >> >>>> news:u5maO$ycHHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> >>>>> I'm having this problem on a Vista 64 bit machine, but it also
>> >> >>>>> happens
>> >> >>>>> on a machine using plain old 32-bit XP (though the processor is
>> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >>>>> single core, AMD 64-bit).
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> I sometimes have problems connecting to websites using the
>> >> >>>>> browser.
>> >> >>>>> But at the same time, I can still check email and participate in
>> >> >>>>> NGs
>> >> >>>>> (as I am now). I can download data from financial institutions
>> >> >>>>> using
>> >> >>>>> Quicken. Instant messenger programs work.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> So, while the browser has trouble connecting, the Internet
>> >> >>>>> connection
>> >> >>>>> is obviously still there and working because these other
>> >> >>>>> programs
>> >> >>>>> show
>> >> >>>>> that to be the case. I tried installing the Opera browser, and
>> >> >>>>> it
>> >> >>>>> can't connect either during these periods either. So it's not
>> >> >>>>> just
>> >> >>>>> an
>> >> >>>>> IE problem.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Both the Vista 64 and the XP 32 machines go through the same DSL
>> >> >>>>> modem. The Vista machine is connected wirelessly to the DSL
>> >> >>>>> modem.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Both are using IE7. The Vista machine is using the version that
>> >> >>>>> came
>> >> >>>>> on the Vista Ultimate 64-bit OEM disk. The 32-bit machine is
>> >> >>>>> using
>> >> >>>>> a
>> >> >>>>> version I downloaded several months earlier.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> While I was in the process of writing this, a box popped up in
>> >> >>>>> the
>> >> >>>>> corner of my screen telling me that Avast AV has been updated.
>> >> >>>>> Usually
>> >> >>>>> that box pops up at bootup. But just now the machine had been on
>> >> >>>>> for
>> >> >>>>> several minutes when it popped up. Once that happened, I figured
>> >> >>>>> whatever had been the problem had ended, so I fired up Opera and
>> >> >>>>> it
>> >> >>>>> connected. (Before anyone says the problem was caused by the AV
>> >> >>>>> update, I can assure you that's not the case. The problem
>> >> >>>>> happens
>> >> >>>>> on
>> >> >>>>> two machines and I have that AV only loaded on one. I've also
>> >> >>>>> had
>> >> >>>>> the
>> >> >>>>> AV update on bootup, but then have this connectivity problem
>> >> >>>>> show
>> >> >>>>> up
>> >> >>>>> later.)
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Two more things:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> 1) When this problem happens, if I put my cursor over the
>> >> >>>>> internet
>> >> >>>>> connection icon in the system tray (on the Vista machine), it
>> >> >>>>> will
>> >> >>>>> show the connection and say "local access only." When I'm not
>> >> >>>>> having
>> >> >>>>> problems with the browser, it will show "Local and Internet."
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> 2) When this problem occurs, I usually can still access my
>> >> >>>>> company's
>> >> >>>>> email website. I'm not sure, but I assume my company's email
>> >> >>>>> server
>> >> >>>>> is
>> >> >>>>> in the same city as my home, which is why I can access it. But I
>> >> >>>>> can't
>> >> >>>>> access any other internet sites.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> So, I guess my questions are:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> 1) What is "local access only"? Is it a problem with my ISP?
>> >> >>>>> With
>> >> >>>>> my
>> >> >>>>> DSL modem?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> 2) And why, when in "local access" mode, can I still get stuff
>> >> >>>>> from
>> >> >>>>> non-local sources while using Windows Mail, Quicken and instant
>> >> >>>>> messenger?
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
John Barnes
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Re: Browser stops working but Internet still connected
Posted: 04-14-2007, 12:06 AM
Worked again. Wish I knew what was causing these problems.

"John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
news:uyxt2oVfHHA.4536@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Well, the same problem has hit my XP86 system. Haven't used the XP64
> system as there are no drivers for the wireless adapter. Will see if
> restore works when I get time.
>
>
> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:352C767E-8AD1-49F1-9BD4-2278505A80FD@microsoft.com...
>>I like the "big brother" comparison.
>> We also have our own local version in Argentina ("Gran Hermano") and even
>> the brazilians have their own!
>> Media is flooded with this big brother thing (nice way to divert people's
>> attention from the real issues in your country).
>> Carlos
>>
>> "John Barnes" wrote:
>>
>>> I have no idea what is causing the problem, but it is worrisome as it is
>>> counter intuitive. It's too 'big brotherish' where you can't connect
>>> to
>>> the outside world, but streaming can continue to be sent into your
>>> computer.
>>>
>>> "Carlos" <Carlos@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:491B98F0-B8C2-44E7-BB82-27A2661D3933@microsoft.com...
>>> > John:
>>> > Had this problem on Sunday (XP x64).
>>> > Followed your advice (system restore to a prior state) and everything
>>> > was
>>> > back to normal again.
>>> > The only things I had done were uninstalling a game (SpongeBob) and
>>> > Samsung
>>> > mobile phone programs.
>>> > Don't know which one caused the problem or whether there was something
>>> > else.
>>> > Carlos
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > "John Barnes" wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> So, exactly what do you have to lose by doing a system restore and
>>> >> seeing
>>> >> if
>>> >> it fixes your problem on one machine, before you get too far away and
>>> >> have
>>> >> good reasons for not wanting to do it. You can always undo it 24
>>> >> hours
>>> >> later if it doesn't help.
>>> >>
>>> >> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> >> news:erRfEfzcHHA.3484@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> >> >
>>> >> > And it's strange that I can get to my company's email website --
>>> >> > USING
>>> >> > internet explorer -- while I can't get to any other websites. I
>>> >> > guess
>>> >> > that's what local access means.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>>> >> > news:%237ZfHczcHHA.1244@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> >> >>I also had the same connection bubble you did, with local -
>>> >> >>internet
>>> >> >>and
>>> >> >>then only local. Also tried all the ipconfig options I knew of and
>>> >> >>that
>>> >> >>were suggested.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >> news:%23ZM$%23RzcHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> >> >>> Thanks, John.
>>> >> >>> Since my problem is occurring on two machines, I don't think that
>>> >> >>> anything you do to a specific machine is really a solution. I'm
>>> >> >>> thinking
>>> >> >>> it must be from the DSL modem and out; not from anything that
>>> >> >>> happens
>>> >> >>> between the DSL modem and anything connected to it in the house.
>>> >> >>> Curious: Is that your real email address or a spam trap? I'm on
>>> >> >>> Bellsouth DSL. Was just checking to make sure you're not as well,
>>> >> >>> cause
>>> >> >>> if you are, that could be an explanation. Also note that
>>> >> >>> BellSouth
>>> >> >>> and
>>> >> >>> ATT just merged, so if you're on any provider somehow connected
>>> >> >>> with
>>> >> >>> AT&T, that may be a common point as well.
>>> >> >>> Also, I'm in southeastern Louisiana. Are you anywhere close to
>>> >> >>> that?
>>> >> >>> I'm just trying to see if we can narrow down commonalities
>>> >> >>> between
>>> >> >>> our
>>> >> >>> two situations.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> The problem for me is intermittent. It may happen several times
>>> >> >>> in
>>> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> course of a few hours.
>>> >> >>> I have sometimes disconnected the power from the modem, waited at
>>> >> >>> least
>>> >> >>> 30 seconds and reconnected and then restarted the 32-bit machine
>>> >> >>> that's
>>> >> >>> hard-wired to the modem. Sometimes that seems to fix the problem.
>>> >> >>> But
>>> >> >>> it's also possible the problem fixed itself during the time when
>>> >> >>> the
>>> >> >>> computer was shut down and the modem powered down.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> "John Barnes" <jbarnes@email.net> wrote in message
>>> >> >>> news:OOGjfLzcHHA.596@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>> >> >>>> Sounds almost exactly like the problem I had several weeks ago.
>>> >> >>>> None
>>> >> >>>> of the few ideas helped and I resorted to a system restore. You
>>> >> >>>> can
>>> >> >>>> check my postings and replies from 3/19 and earlier. My find
>>> >> >>>> isn't
>>> >> >>>> working for some reason, maybe yours will. Both had IE7 in the
>>> >> >>>> subject
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> "DP" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>>> >> >>>> news:u5maO$ycHHA.5044@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> >> >>>>> I'm having this problem on a Vista 64 bit machine, but it also
>>> >> >>>>> happens
>>> >> >>>>> on a machine using plain old 32-bit XP (though the processor is
>>> >> >>>>> a
>>> >> >>>>> single core, AMD 64-bit).
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> I sometimes have problems connecting to websites using the
>>> >> >>>>> browser.
>>> >> >>>>> But at the same time, I can still check email and participate
>>> >> >>>>> in
>>> >> >>>>> NGs
>>> >> >>>>> (as I am now). I can download data from financial institutions
>>> >> >>>>> using
>>> >> >>>>> Quicken. Instant messenger programs work.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> So, while the browser has trouble connecting, the Internet
>>> >> >>>>> connection
>>> >> >>>>> is obviously still there and working because these other
>>> >> >>>>> programs
>>> >> >>>>> show
>>> >> >>>>> that to be the case. I tried installing the Opera browser, and
>>> >> >>>>> it
>>> >> >>>>> can't connect either during these periods either. So it's not
>>> >> >>>>> just
>>> >> >>>>> an
>>> >> >>>>> IE problem.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Both the Vista 64 and the XP 32 machines go through the same
>>> >> >>>>> DSL
>>> >> >>>>> modem. The Vista machine is connected wirelessly to the DSL
>>> >> >>>>> modem.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Both are using IE7. The Vista machine is using the version that
>>> >> >>>>> came
>>> >> >>>>> on the Vista Ultimate 64-bit OEM disk. The 32-bit machine is
>>> >> >>>>> using
>>> >> >>>>> a
>>> >> >>>>> version I downloaded several months earlier.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> While I was in the process of writing this, a box popped up in
>>> >> >>>>> the
>>> >> >>>>> corner of my screen telling me that Avast AV has been updated.
>>> >> >>>>> Usually
>>> >> >>>>> that box pops up at bootup. But just now the machine had been
>>> >> >>>>> on
>>> >> >>>>> for
>>> >> >>>>> several minutes when it popped up. Once that happened, I
>>> >> >>>>> figured
>>> >> >>>>> whatever had been the problem had ended, so I fired up Opera
>>> >> >>>>> and it
>>> >> >>>>> connected. (Before anyone says the problem was caused by the AV
>>> >> >>>>> update, I can assure you that's not the case. The problem
>>> >> >>>>> happens
>>> >> >>>>> on
>>> >> >>>>> two machines and I have that AV only loaded on one. I've also
>>> >> >>>>> had
>>> >> >>>>> the
>>> >> >>>>> AV update on bootup, but then have this connectivity problem
>>> >> >>>>> show
>>> >> >>>>> up
>>> >> >>>>> later.)
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Two more things:
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> 1) When this problem happens, if I put my cursor over the
>>> >> >>>>> internet
>>> >> >>>>> connection icon in the system tray (on the Vista machine), it
>>> >> >>>>> will
>>> >> >>>>> show the connection and say "local access only." When I'm not
>>> >> >>>>> having
>>> >> >>>>> problems with the browser, it will show "Local and Internet."
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> 2) When this problem occurs, I usually can still access my
>>> >> >>>>> company's
>>> >> >>>>> email website. I'm not sure, but I assume my company's email
>>> >> >>>>> server
>>> >> >>>>> is
>>> >> >>>>> in the same city as my home, which is why I can access it. But
>>> >> >>>>> I
>>> >> >>>>> can't
>>> >> >>>>> access any other internet sites.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> So, I guess my questions are:
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> 1) What is "local access only"? Is it a problem with my ISP?
>>> >> >>>>> With
>>> >> >>>>> my
>>> >> >>>>> DSL modem?
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> 2) And why, when in "local access" mode, can I still get stuff
>>> >> >>>>> from
>>> >> >>>>> non-local sources while using Windows Mail, Quicken and instant
>>> >> >>>>> messenger?
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>
 
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