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Old 10-16-2006, 03:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Just wondering...

Is there a "known bug list" for Vista RC1 (or 5728) available someplace?

I'm anxious to give it a go, but really don't want to spend hours
installing, then tweaking, then installing my apps, etc. just to find out
that most stuff I do won't work, or that I'll spend more time rebooting that
being productive.

A few things that I do use the computer for are...

- Firefox for web browsing
- Outlook 2003 for email
- UltraVNC to administer other PC's on my LAN
- Play Hoyle Puzzle Games 2005
- Play Quake3
- Use Corel Draw X3
- Use Macromedia Studio 8
- Use Nero 7, Alcohol 120% and PowerISO for disc burning and image mounting.
- Sync to my Palm Zire 31
- Use WinRAR to manage my compressed files

....and I'm sure that there's more, but I think you get the idea.


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Old 10-16-2006, 04:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds to me like you're talking about your production PC... If that
assumption is incorrect, then ignore the rest of this post...

Do NOT install Vista beta code on a production PC. Not even in dual boot
mode. Don't do it. Period.

Lang

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> Just wondering...
>
> Is there a "known bug list" for Vista RC1 (or 5728) available someplace?
>
> I'm anxious to give it a go, but really don't want to spend hours
> installing, then tweaking, then installing my apps, etc. just to find out
> that most stuff I do won't work, or that I'll spend more time rebooting
> that being productive.
>
> A few things that I do use the computer for are...
>
> - Firefox for web browsing
> - Outlook 2003 for email
> - UltraVNC to administer other PC's on my LAN
> - Play Hoyle Puzzle Games 2005
> - Play Quake3
> - Use Corel Draw X3
> - Use Macromedia Studio 8
> - Use Nero 7, Alcohol 120% and PowerISO for disc burning and image
> mounting.
> - Sync to my Palm Zire 31
> - Use WinRAR to manage my compressed files
>
> ...and I'm sure that there's more, but I think you get the idea.
>
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Old 10-16-2006, 05:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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"Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sounds to me like you're talking about your production PC... If that
> assumption is incorrect, then ignore the rest of this post...
>
> Do NOT install Vista beta code on a production PC. Not even in dual boot
> mode. Don't do it. Period.
Yup... It's my production PC. I have a completely different hard drive onto
which I will install Vista. I'll remove my current working XP drive first,
of course!


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> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
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Quote:
>> Just wondering...
>>
>> Is there a "known bug list" for Vista RC1 (or 5728) available someplace?
>>
>> I'm anxious to give it a go, but really don't want to spend hours
>> installing, then tweaking, then installing my apps, etc. just to find out
>> that most stuff I do won't work, or that I'll spend more time rebooting
>> that being productive.
>>
>> A few things that I do use the computer for are...
>>
>> - Firefox for web browsing
>> - Outlook 2003 for email
>> - UltraVNC to administer other PC's on my LAN
>> - Play Hoyle Puzzle Games 2005
>> - Play Quake3
>> - Use Corel Draw X3
>> - Use Macromedia Studio 8
>> - Use Nero 7, Alcohol 120% and PowerISO for disc burning and image
>> mounting.
>> - Sync to my Palm Zire 31
>> - Use WinRAR to manage my compressed files
>>
>> ...and I'm sure that there's more, but I think you get the idea.
>>
>

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Old 10-16-2006, 02:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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A bug list is not available to the public. It is posted on Connect and only
Tech Beta has access to the list.
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> Just wondering...
>
> Is there a "known bug list" for Vista RC1 (or 5728) available someplace?
>
> I'm anxious to give it a go, but really don't want to spend hours
> installing, then tweaking, then installing my apps, etc. just to find out
> that most stuff I do won't work, or that I'll spend more time rebooting
> that being productive.
>
> A few things that I do use the computer for are...
>
> - Firefox for web browsing
> - Outlook 2003 for email
> - UltraVNC to administer other PC's on my LAN
> - Play Hoyle Puzzle Games 2005
> - Play Quake3
> - Use Corel Draw X3
> - Use Macromedia Studio 8
> - Use Nero 7, Alcohol 120% and PowerISO for disc burning and image
> mounting.
> - Sync to my Palm Zire 31
> - Use WinRAR to manage my compressed files
>
> ...and I'm sure that there's more, but I think you get the idea.
>

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Old 10-16-2006, 06:02 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Now that Microsoft has already released RC2 into the wild there are probably
about 500 or so bugs left to contend with as well as adding final polish to
the system configuration as a whole. We are hopeful that a compatibility
list of programs will eventually be listed just as there was once upon a
time a similar list for Windows XP.

regards
Robert
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> Just wondering...
>
> Is there a "known bug list" for Vista RC1 (or 5728) available someplace?
>
> I'm anxious to give it a go, but really don't want to spend hours
> installing, then tweaking, then installing my apps, etc. just to find out
> that most stuff I do won't work, or that I'll spend more time rebooting
> that being productive.
>
> A few things that I do use the computer for are...
>
> - Firefox for web browsing
> - Outlook 2003 for email
> - UltraVNC to administer other PC's on my LAN
> - Play Hoyle Puzzle Games 2005
> - Play Quake3
> - Use Corel Draw X3
> - Use Macromedia Studio 8
> - Use Nero 7, Alcohol 120% and PowerISO for disc burning and image
> mounting.
> - Sync to my Palm Zire 31
> - Use WinRAR to manage my compressed files
>
> ...and I'm sure that there's more, but I think you get the idea.
>
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Old 10-17-2006, 03:14 AM   #6 (permalink)
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"Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sounds to me like you're talking about your production PC... If that
> assumption is incorrect, then ignore the rest of this post...
>
> Do NOT install Vista beta code on a production PC. Not even in dual boot
> mode. Don't do it. Period.
>
> Lang
>
Some people do it anyway. I know I'm one of them.
In the 98 and XP CPP programs I went full tilt with the Beta OS using it as
my only OS.
Yes I did a clean install of RTM
Right now I'm double booting.


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Old 10-17-2006, 03:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I wasn't saying it can't be done. I am saying that one takes a rather large
risk installing beta OS code on a production PC. I've seen posts in this NG
from folks that were running Vista on a dual boot system and when something
went wrong with Vista, it took their other OS down too.

Lang

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> "Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
>> Sounds to me like you're talking about your production PC... If that
>> assumption is incorrect, then ignore the rest of this post...
>>
>> Do NOT install Vista beta code on a production PC. Not even in dual boot
>> mode. Don't do it. Period.
>>
>> Lang
>>
> Some people do it anyway. I know I'm one of them.
> In the 98 and XP CPP programs I went full tilt with the Beta OS using it
> as my only OS.
> Yes I did a clean install of RTM
> Right now I'm double booting.
>
>
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Old 10-17-2006, 04:55 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Scaredy fraidy cats is all Lang!!! LOL-JK

Jeff

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>I wasn't saying it can't be done. I am saying that one takes a rather large
>risk installing beta OS code on a production PC. I've seen posts in this NG
>from folks that were running Vista on a dual boot system and when something
>went wrong with Vista, it took their other OS down too.
>
> Lang
>
> "Jim Fraas" <j@f.com> wrote in message
> news:eH0$npZ8GHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Quote:
>>
>> "Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:46D5C1A6-C024-4C91-B9EA-F9F1BC77A6E8@microsoft.com...
Quote:
>>> Sounds to me like you're talking about your production PC... If that
>>> assumption is incorrect, then ignore the rest of this post...
>>>
>>> Do NOT install Vista beta code on a production PC. Not even in dual boot
>>> mode. Don't do it. Period.
>>>
>>> Lang
>>>
>> Some people do it anyway. I know I'm one of them.
>> In the 98 and XP CPP programs I went full tilt with the Beta OS using it
>> as my only OS.
>> Yes I did a clean install of RTM
>> Right now I'm double booting.
>>
>>
>
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Old 10-17-2006, 07:11 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Well... as Ben Franklin said, or something close to it... "Experience is a
good teacher, but fools will learn no other way." Or Jefferson: "The art of
life is the art of avoiding pain; and he is the best pilot, who steers
clearest of the rocks and shoals with which it is beset."

Playing around with a beta OS is fraught with rocks and shoals. Putting that
beta OS on a -production- PC, well... I guess I consider that poor piloting.
I definitely subscribe to the "...avoiding pain..." theory.

Lang

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>
> Jeff
>
> "Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23LaJW8Z8GHA.4116@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
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>>I wasn't saying it can't be done. I am saying that one takes a rather
>>large risk installing beta OS code on a production PC. I've seen posts in
>>this NG from folks that were running Vista on a dual boot system and when
>>something went wrong with Vista, it took their other OS down too.
>>
>> Lang
>>
>> "Jim Fraas" <j@f.com> wrote in message
>> news:eH0$npZ8GHA.3280@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
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>>>
>>> "Lang Murphy" <lang_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:46D5C1A6-C024-4C91-B9EA-F9F1BC77A6E8@microsoft.com...
>>>> Sounds to me like you're talking about your production PC... If that
>>>> assumption is incorrect, then ignore the rest of this post...
>>>>
>>>> Do NOT install Vista beta code on a production PC. Not even in dual
>>>> boot mode. Don't do it. Period.
>>>>
>>>> Lang
>>>>
>>> Some people do it anyway. I know I'm one of them.
>>> In the 98 and XP CPP programs I went full tilt with the Beta OS using it
>>> as my only OS.
>>> Yes I did a clean install of RTM
>>> Right now I'm double booting.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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Old 10-17-2006, 08:44 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Actually, even that is not the case. The TechBeta database comprises a
listing of all the bug REPORTS, but is not a complete bug list. Microsoft
does not release their bug list, which of course would include not only bugs
reported by TechBeta and TAP folks, etc., but their own internal lists as
well. Three months ago the word given out in private chats and live
meetings was that the active bug list was in the hundreds of items, not
thousands as was widely assumed by the public (i.e., CPP) testers. It is
probably still around that number since the bug level (below which bugs are
not fixed before launch) went very high about August.

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>A bug list is not available to the public. It is posted on Connect and only
>Tech Beta has access to the list.
> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
> news:uAMqjYN8GHA.568@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Quote:
>> Just wondering...
>>
>> Is there a "known bug list" for Vista RC1 (or 5728) available someplace?
>>
>> I'm anxious to give it a go, but really don't want to spend hours
>> installing, then tweaking, then installing my apps, etc. just to find out
>> that most stuff I do won't work, or that I'll spend more time rebooting
>> that being productive.
>>
>> A few things that I do use the computer for are...
>>
>> - Firefox for web browsing
>> - Outlook 2003 for email
>> - UltraVNC to administer other PC's on my LAN
>> - Play Hoyle Puzzle Games 2005
>> - Play Quake3
>> - Use Corel Draw X3
>> - Use Macromedia Studio 8
>> - Use Nero 7, Alcohol 120% and PowerISO for disc burning and image
>> mounting.
>> - Sync to my Palm Zire 31
>> - Use WinRAR to manage my compressed files
>>
>> ...and I'm sure that there's more, but I think you get the idea.
>>
>
>

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