Can I use Aero Glass

F INTEL!!


"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
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> Intel has not released wddm drivers for the 915 graphics. At an Intel road
> show I attended last week they said they had no plans to release wddm
> drivers for this chipset. They explicitly stated that Aero would not be
> supported on the 915 chipset series unless you install a discrete video
> card. This means laptops using 915 graphics cannot use Aero.
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> chaos29 wrote:

>> hello,
>>
>> I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family (
>> Microsoft Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB
>>
>> On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
>> I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers ?
>> or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?
>>
>> I am using Vista RC2
>>
>> thank you

>
>

Your remarks are totally uncalled for. Apparently you do not realize that
the 915 grapichs chip does not have the required functionality internally to
support Aero and therfore Intel can not realease Aero compatible drivers for
it without incorporating the required unique CPU consuming missing functions
using vomplex snd extensive to software within the driver. And even it they
did MS would not allow the 915 chipset to be included in its designed for
Vista premium logo program since the functinality requied is not in the
chipset.
However I guess if you were around when color TV was introduced that you
were also very upset when your TV manufacturer did not upgrade your black
and white TV. Or I guess you are upset if your 720p native resolution HDTV
can not be upgraded to a 1080p native resolution.

"RandyH" <RHollaw@HOTmail.com> wrote in message
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>F INTEL!!
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
> news:ODoY9eo$GHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Intel has not released wddm drivers for the 915 graphics. At an Intel
>> road show I attended last week they said they had no plans to release
>> wddm drivers for this chipset. They explicitly stated that Aero would not
>> be supported on the 915 chipset series unless you install a discrete
>> video card. This means laptops using 915 graphics cannot use Aero.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> chaos29 wrote:

>>> hello,
>>>
>>> I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family (
>>> Microsoft Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB
>>>
>>> On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
>>> I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers ?
>>> or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?
>>>
>>> I am using Vista RC2
>>>
>>> thank you

>>
>>

>

Obviously !...GOSH...

can you tell my how many gigaflops' a nanometer vibrates at?

F INTEL! HAHA

"JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote in message
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> Your remarks are totally uncalled for. Apparently you do not realize that
> the 915 grapichs chip does not have the required functionality internally
> to support Aero and therfore Intel can not realease Aero compatible
> drivers for it without incorporating the required unique CPU consuming
> missing functions using vomplex snd extensive to software within the
> driver. And even it they did MS would not allow the 915 chipset to be
> included in its designed for Vista premium logo program since the
> functinality requied is not in the chipset.
> However I guess if you were around when color TV was introduced that you
> were also very upset when your TV manufacturer did not upgrade your black
> and white TV. Or I guess you are upset if your 720p native resolution HDTV
> can not be upgraded to a 1080p native resolution.
>
> "RandyH" <RHollaw@HOTmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O3A49Jr$GHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>F INTEL!!
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>> news:ODoY9eo$GHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Intel has not released wddm drivers for the 915 graphics. At an Intel
>>> road show I attended last week they said they had no plans to release
>>> wddm drivers for this chipset. They explicitly stated that Aero would
>>> not be supported on the 915 chipset series unless you install a discrete
>>> video card. This means laptops using 915 graphics cannot use Aero.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kerry
>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>>
>>>
>>> chaos29 wrote:
>>>> hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family (
>>>> Microsoft Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB
>>>>
>>>> On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
>>>> I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers ?
>>>> or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?
>>>>
>>>> I am using Vista RC2
>>>>
>>>> thank you
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>

I agree with Randy H's sentiments if not his method of expressing them. The
915 graphics does meet the specifications needed for Intel to write a wddm
driver. Even though it meets the specifications it is possible that the
performance would be too slow. Intel did not say this though. Their stated
reason for not supporting the 915 chipset with a wddm driver was because it
was too old. It was a marketing decision.

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


JW wrote:

> Your remarks are totally uncalled for. Apparently you do not realize
> that the 915 grapichs chip does not have the required functionality
> internally to support Aero and therfore Intel can not realease Aero
> compatible drivers for it without incorporating the required unique
> CPU consuming missing functions using vomplex snd extensive to
> software within the driver. And even it they did MS would not allow
> the 915 chipset to be included in its designed for Vista premium logo
> program since the functinality requied is not in the chipset.
> However I guess if you were around when color TV was introduced that
> you were also very upset when your TV manufacturer did not upgrade
> your black and white TV. Or I guess you are upset if your 720p native
> resolution HDTV can not be upgraded to a 1080p native resolution.
>
> "RandyH" <RHollaw@HOTmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O3A49Jr$GHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> F INTEL!!
>>
>>
>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>> news:ODoY9eo$GHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Intel has not released wddm drivers for the 915 graphics. At an
>>> Intel road show I attended last week they said they had no plans to
>>> release wddm drivers for this chipset. They explicitly stated that
>>> Aero would not be supported on the 915 chipset series unless you
>>> install a discrete video card. This means laptops using 915
>>> graphics cannot use Aero. --
>>> Kerry
>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>>
>>>
>>> chaos29 wrote:
>>>> hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family (
>>>> Microsoft Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB
>>>>
>>>> On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
>>>> I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers
>>>> ? or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?
>>>>
>>>> I am using Vista RC2
>>>>
>>>> thank you

Kerry,
I think you and JW are saying the same thing. Yes, you are correct that
nothing prevents Intel from writing WDDM driver for the 915 Chipset,
however, since functionality required such as DX9 support rather then the
DX8 support contained in the 915 chipset would have to be included in the
driver. ( Note: This is exactly what ATI did in their Catalyst drivers in
order that their 91xx and 92xx chip based graphics cards could be used with
MCE2005) And as you and JW pointed out this would cause a performance
penalty and for this reason their marketing organization did not want to
allocate the R&D resources to add the functionality to their 945 chipset
Vista driver so that it could also provide the required support for 915
chips.

"Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
news:eCh8f6s$GHA.4328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>I agree with Randy H's sentiments if not his method of expressing them. The
>915 graphics does meet the specifications needed for Intel to write a wddm
>driver. Even though it meets the specifications it is possible that the
>performance would be too slow. Intel did not say this though. Their stated
>reason for not supporting the 915 chipset with a wddm driver was because it
>was too old. It was a marketing decision.
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> JW wrote:

>> Your remarks are totally uncalled for. Apparently you do not realize
>> that the 915 grapichs chip does not have the required functionality
>> internally to support Aero and therfore Intel can not realease Aero
>> compatible drivers for it without incorporating the required unique
>> CPU consuming missing functions using vomplex snd extensive to
>> software within the driver. And even it they did MS would not allow
>> the 915 chipset to be included in its designed for Vista premium logo
>> program since the functinality requied is not in the chipset.
>> However I guess if you were around when color TV was introduced that
>> you were also very upset when your TV manufacturer did not upgrade
>> your black and white TV. Or I guess you are upset if your 720p native
>> resolution HDTV can not be upgraded to a 1080p native resolution.
>>
>> "RandyH" <RHollaw@HOTmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:O3A49Jr$GHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> F INTEL!!
>>>
>>>
>>> "Kerry Brown" <kerry@kdbNOSPAMsys-tems.c*a*m> wrote in message
>>> news:ODoY9eo$GHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Intel has not released wddm drivers for the 915 graphics. At an
>>>> Intel road show I attended last week they said they had no plans to
>>>> release wddm drivers for this chipset. They explicitly stated that
>>>> Aero would not be supported on the 915 chipset series unless you
>>>> install a discrete video card. This means laptops using 915
>>>> graphics cannot use Aero. --
>>>> Kerry
>>>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> chaos29 wrote:
>>>>> hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family (
>>>>> Microsoft Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB
>>>>>
>>>>> On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
>>>>> I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers
>>>>> ? or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am using Vista RC2
>>>>>
>>>>> thank you

>
>

Hi,

If you are using Intel 915 chipset without aonther graphic chipset onboard,
goto http://www.petitiononline.com/intel915/petition.html and sign it. The
owner of petition will send this list to Intel that we are in trouble.

Cheers,
Pound@Gestalt


"chaos29" wrote:

> hello,
>
> I have a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Chipset Family ( Microsoft
> Corporation - XDDM ) graphic card. 128 MB
>
> On an Acer TravelMate Notebook.
> I cant find anything to enable aero, do I need any special drivers ?
> or is it not possible with this graphic card to use aero ?
>
> I am using Vista RC2
>
> thank you
>
>