Can not find other devices on Network

Posted: 01-30-2009, 02:47 PM
I just purchased a new laptop with Vista home edition. I connected to my
network no problem and have access to the internet. But I can not find any
other of the devices on the network.
When I go into Network I can see the router name.
I have a workgroup name on the network. But when I click on workgroup, it
shows me a selection called workgroup but there is no place to enter the
workgroup name.
The other devices on the network all have shared writes and all other
devices can see them.
Any ideas what the problem is?

Can not find other devices on Network


Responses to "Can not find other devices on Network"

Malke
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Re: Can not find other devices on Network
Posted: 01-30-2009, 03:04 PM
Ron wrote:
> I just purchased a new laptop with Vista home edition. I connected to my
> network no problem and have access to the internet. But I can not find
> any other of the devices on the network.
> When I go into Network I can see the router name.
> I have a workgroup name on the network. But when I click on workgroup, it
> shows me a selection called workgroup but there is no place to enter the
> workgroup name.
> The other devices on the network all have shared writes and all other
> devices can see them.
> Any ideas what the problem is?
Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look
daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below
systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your
sharing.

Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
and folders:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
caveat in Item A below).

Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful
firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having
identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying
to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.

A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own
firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I
usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for
how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall.
DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.

B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.

C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).

E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home
directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder.
See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ

Ron
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Re: Can not find other devices on Network
Posted: 01-30-2009, 03:51 PM
That did not help. As I mentioned I am using Vista not XP.
The link you specified shows the workgroup the way it displays in XP.
I am not able to enter my workgroup name anywhere.
I see nowhere to Configure firewalls on this machine to allow the Local Area
Network traffic as trusted. I see no Exceptions tab.
There is no need to change any configuration on the other devices on the
network because all other devices can see them. The problem is with this
Vista machine.

"Malke" wrote:
> Ron wrote:
>
> > I just purchased a new laptop with Vista home edition. I connected to my
> > network no problem and have access to the internet. But I can not find
> > any other of the devices on the network.
> > When I go into Network I can see the router name.
> > I have a workgroup name on the network. But when I click on workgroup, it
> > shows me a selection called workgroup but there is no place to enter the
> > workgroup name.
> > The other devices on the network all have shared writes and all other
> > devices can see them.
> > Any ideas what the problem is?
>
> Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
> applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look
> daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below
> systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your
> sharing.
>
> Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
> Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
> and folders:
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
>
> For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
> caveat in Item A below).
>
> Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
> by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful
> firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
> built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having
> identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying
> to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.
>
> A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
> traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
> Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
> XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
> will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
> third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own
> firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I
> usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
> 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
> subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for
> how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall.
> DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.
>
> B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
> is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.
>
> C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
> need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
> assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
> need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
> PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
> to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
> can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:
>
> Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
>
> D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
> Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).
>
> E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home
> directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
> directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder.
> See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>
>
Michael Walraven
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Re: Can not find other devices on Network
Posted: 01-30-2009, 05:37 PM
Network and sharing center
Sharing and discovery area
expand on the Network discovery block
select 'change settings' alongside the Workgroup: XXXXX item

alternately in help and support ask for 'change workgroup'

Michael


"Ron" <Ron@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1F46E83B-0F62-4D2B-A3EA-AC3C685E9D44@microsoft.com...
> That did not help. As I mentioned I am using Vista not XP.
> The link you specified shows the workgroup the way it displays in XP.
> I am not able to enter my workgroup name anywhere.
> I see nowhere to Configure firewalls on this machine to allow the Local
> Area
> Network traffic as trusted. I see no Exceptions tab.
> There is no need to change any configuration on the other devices on the
> network because all other devices can see them. The problem is with this
> Vista machine.
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
>> Ron wrote:
>>
>> > I just purchased a new laptop with Vista home edition. I connected to
>> > my
>> > network no problem and have access to the internet. But I can not find
>> > any other of the devices on the network.
>> > When I go into Network I can see the router name.
>> > I have a workgroup name on the network. But when I click on workgroup,
>> > it
>> > shows me a selection called workgroup but there is no place to enter
>> > the
>> > workgroup name.
>> > The other devices on the network all have shared writes and all other
>> > devices can see them.
>> > Any ideas what the problem is?
>>
>> Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
>> applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look
>> daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below
>> systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your
>> sharing.
>>
>> Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
>> Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as
>> files
>> and folders:
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
>>
>> For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
>> caveat in Item A below).
>>
>> Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally
>> caused
>> by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a
>> stateful
>> firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
>> built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not
>> having
>> identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4)
>> trying
>> to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.
>>
>> A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
>> (LAN)
>> traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
>> File/Printer
>> Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard
>> on
>> XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that
>> this
>> will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
>> third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own
>> firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I
>> usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
>> 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
>> subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums
>> for
>> how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one
>> firewall.
>> DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.
>>
>> B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup.
>> This
>> is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.
>>
>> C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do
>> not
>> need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
>> assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords
>> just
>> need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
>> PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot
>> directly
>> to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
>> can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:
>>
>> Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
>> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
>>
>> D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
>> Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).
>>
>> E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
>> home
>> directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
>> directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents
>> folder.
>> See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> MS-MVP
>> Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
>> FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
>>
>>
Grand_Poobah
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Re: Can not find other devices on Network
Posted: 01-30-2009, 05:42 PM
--->
> I just purchased a new laptop with Vista home edition. I connected to my
> network no problem and have access to the internet. But I can not find any
> other of the devices on the network.
> When I go into Network I can see the router name.
> I have a workgroup name on the network. But when I click on workgroup, it
> shows me a selection called workgroup but there is no place to enter the
> workgroup name.
> The other devices on the network all have shared writes and all other
> devices can see them.
> Any ideas what the problem is?
>
Right-Click "Computer" and choose Properties. Scroll down towards the
bottom and you will see "computer name, domain, and workgroup settings".
Over on the right, click "Change Settings". this is where you
change workgroups.

GP
Ron
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Re: Can not find other devices on Network
Posted: 01-30-2009, 06:05 PM
That did it. Thank you very much.

"Ron" wrote:
> That did not help. As I mentioned I am using Vista not XP.
> The link you specified shows the workgroup the way it displays in XP.
> I am not able to enter my workgroup name anywhere.
> I see nowhere to Configure firewalls on this machine to allow the Local Area
> Network traffic as trusted. I see no Exceptions tab.
> There is no need to change any configuration on the other devices on the
> network because all other devices can see them. The problem is with this
> Vista machine.
>
> "Malke" wrote:
>
> > Ron wrote:
> >
> > > I just purchased a new laptop with Vista home edition. I connected to my
> > > network no problem and have access to the internet. But I can not find
> > > any other of the devices on the network.
> > > When I go into Network I can see the router name.
> > > I have a workgroup name on the network. But when I click on workgroup, it
> > > shows me a selection called workgroup but there is no place to enter the
> > > workgroup name.
> > > The other devices on the network all have shared writes and all other
> > > devices can see them.
> > > Any ideas what the problem is?
> >
> > Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
> > applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look
> > daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below
> > systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your
> > sharing.
> >
> > Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
> > Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
> > and folders:
> >
> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
> >
> > For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
> > caveat in Item A below).
> >
> > Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
> > by 1) a misconfigured firewall or overlooked firewall (including a stateful
> > firewall in a VPN); or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls such as the
> > built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or 3) not having
> > identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup machines; 4) trying
> > to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.
> >
> > A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network (LAN)
> > traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing File/Printer
> > Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard on
> > XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that this
> > will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
> > third-party firewall or have an antivirus/security program with its own
> > firewall component, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I
> > usually configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
> > 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
> > subnet. Refer to any third party security program's Help or user forums for
> > how to properly configure its firewall. Do not run more than one firewall.
> > DO NOT TURN OFF FIREWALLS; CONFIGURE THEM CORRECTLY.
> >
> > B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
> > is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.
> >
> > C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
> > need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
> > assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords just
> > need to exist and match on all machines. DO NOT NEGLECT TO CREATE
> > PASSWORDS, EVEN IF ONLY SIMPLE ONES. If you wish a machine to boot directly
> > to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for convenience, you
> > can do this. The instructions at this link work for both XP and Vista:
> >
> > Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
> > http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
> >
> > D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center, turn off
> > Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab).
> >
> > E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users' home
> > directories or Program Files, but you can share folders inside those
> > directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared Documents folder.
> > See the first link above for details about Vista sharing.
> >
> > Malke
> > --
> > MS-MVP
> > Elephant Boy Computers - Don't Panic!
> > FAQ - http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/#FAQ
> >
> >
 
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