Cannot access Vista computer from XP

Alright. I have looked at help files, I have searched all over the microsoft
website, I have looked at previous question/answer topics from this section,
but I cannot find out the answer to my problem.

I have a laptop with Windows vista home premium, and a desktop with Windows
XP Home. They connect through a wireless network. vista can access XP no
problem. XP cannot access Vista with no problem: vista shows up in the
network places, when I turn the password requirement to share off in vista, I
can even access Vista from XP.
BUT: when I turn the password requirements to share on in vista, I cannot
access my vista PC from my XP PC. HOWEVER: the original accounts on both
computers have the EXACT SAME name, AND the exact same password, even the
password hint is the SAME! STILL I cannot access my Vista PC from my XP PC.
I have tried creating another account on both PCs with the exact same
specifications, but even then as long as the password requirement to share is
set as on in Vista, I cannot access the files on my Vista PC.
Always, the error message that pops up is:


"\\**name of Vista PC** is not accessible. You might not have permission to
use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
out if you have access permissions.

Logon failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon type at
this computer."

Please, if anyone knows what is wrong with anything I have done (and yes,
network sharing of files and printers is definitely set to on) tell me here.
If you have need of any other information (and yes, they use the same
workgroup name) just ask.

Folder Security and Share Permissions

Folder security defines what users can do within folders. To configure
folder security, right-click a folder in the Computer window, and then click
the Security tab. Share permissions must match the folder security for
access to a share to be successful. For example, if the share permissions
allow access to both Bob and Sally, but the folder security only allows Bob,
then Sally will not be able to access the share. You must add the Sally
account to the folder security settings.

For another example, when a user disables password protected sharing, the
default share permissions for new shares include the Everyone group. If the
folder security specifies access for the Users group, another computer that
is not using an account on the sharing computer will not be able to access
the share. Another computer that is not using an account on the sharing
computer will be using the Guest account, which is not a member of the Users
group. To allow this other computer to access the share, you must add the
Guest account to the folder security settings.

SOURCE: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx

Cheers,


"Drake1500" <Drake1500@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Alright. I have looked at help files, I have searched all over the
> microsoft
> website, I have looked at previous question/answer topics from this
> section,
> but I cannot find out the answer to my problem.
>
> I have a laptop with Windows vista home premium, and a desktop with
> Windows
> XP Home. They connect through a wireless network. vista can access XP no
> problem. XP cannot access Vista with no problem: vista shows up in the
> network places, when I turn the password requirement to share off in
> vista, I
> can even access Vista from XP.
> BUT: when I turn the password requirements to share on in vista, I cannot
> access my vista PC from my XP PC. HOWEVER: the original accounts on both
> computers have the EXACT SAME name, AND the exact same password, even the
> password hint is the SAME! STILL I cannot access my Vista PC from my XP
> PC.
> I have tried creating another account on both PCs with the exact same
> specifications, but even then as long as the password requirement to share
> is
> set as on in Vista, I cannot access the files on my Vista PC.
> Always, the error message that pops up is:
>
>
> "\\**name of Vista PC** is not accessible. You might not have permission
> to
> use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to
> find
> out if you have access permissions.
>
> Logon failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon type at
> this computer."
>
> Please, if anyone knows what is wrong with anything I have done (and yes,
> network sharing of files and printers is definitely set to on) tell me
> here.
> If you have need of any other information (and yes, they use the same
> workgroup name) just ask.

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 22:07:01 -0800, Drake1500 wrote:

>"\\**name of Vista PC** is not accessible. You might not have permission to
>use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
>out if you have access permissions.
>
>Logon failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon type at
>this computer."

Thanks for your excellent error description. This is a rarity
around here.

This same problem is not uncommon among XP computers. I don't
have a Vista-specific solution, but perhaps the problem and its
solution is still the same. If nobody else comes forward with a
better solution, you could use http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm and
fill in the form. It allows you to specify exactly this error
message.

Hans-Georg
--
No mail, please.

On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 22:07:01 -0800, Drake1500
<Drake1500@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Alright. I have looked at help files, I have searched all over the microsoft
>website, I have looked at previous question/answer topics from this section,
>but I cannot find out the answer to my problem.
>
>I have a laptop with Windows vista home premium, and a desktop with Windows
>XP Home. They connect through a wireless network. vista can access XP no
>problem. XP cannot access Vista with no problem: vista shows up in the
>network places, when I turn the password requirement to share off in vista, I
>can even access Vista from XP.
>BUT: when I turn the password requirements to share on in vista, I cannot
>access my vista PC from my XP PC. HOWEVER: the original accounts on both
>computers have the EXACT SAME name, AND the exact same password, even the
>password hint is the SAME! STILL I cannot access my Vista PC from my XP PC.
>I have tried creating another account on both PCs with the exact same
>specifications, but even then as long as the password requirement to share is
>set as on in Vista, I cannot access the files on my Vista PC.
>Always, the error message that pops up is:
>
>
>"\\**name of Vista PC** is not accessible. You might not have permission to
>use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
>out if you have access permissions.
>
>Logon failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon type at
>this computer."
>
>Please, if anyone knows what is wrong with anything I have done (and yes,
>network sharing of files and printers is definitely set to on) tell me here.
>If you have need of any other information (and yes, they use the same
>workgroup name) just ask.

Drake,

In Windows XP and Vista, besides setting up a local account and activating it
for network access, that account (or a group in which that account falls) must
have an entry in the Local Security Policy. For XP / Vista Home editions, you
have to use NTRights, and assign the group "Everyone" Network Logon rights.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/advanced-file-sharing-tweaks-in.html#NTRights>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0....html#NTRights

Then make sure that your account that you're using is a member of "Everyone".

--
Cheers,
Chuck, MS-MVP 2005-2007 [Windows - Networking]
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck mvps org.

"Hans-Georg Michna" <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> wrote in message
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>
> This same problem is not uncommon among XP computers. I don't
> have a Vista-specific solution, but perhaps the problem and its
> solution is still the same. If nobody else comes forward with a
> better solution, you could use http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm and
> fill in the form. It allows you to specify exactly this error
> message.
>
> Hans-Georg

For most XP users, I don't think there is a feasible solution. I've read
and tried the many solutions, and the endless "web links" for a solution,
and they didn't work. Then I read about many more solutions, then more,
then the MVPs want me to try more! All the while my XP and Vista systems
perform flawlessly, except for XP's ability to access anything on Vista
except the Public Folder (which does work).

This is a problem that most XP users have, and just live with it -- they use
the Public Folder like I do. Many people have the problem and don't report
it. It's a problem that could be cured by allowing the option of Simple
File Sharing, but NOOO.

Is Microsoft listening? No.

EW

EW,

I cannot access my vista PC at all. I cannot get into it to so much as see
the Public Folder, let alone getting the Public folder to work. If anyone
knows or can find a solution that will allow me to access my Vista PC without
turning off the requirement of needing a similar account to access it, then I
will be happy.

Just note: I might not have mentioned it in my previous post (I cannot
remember) but if on my Vista PC, in the Network and Sharing Center, I turn
off "Password Protected Sharing", everything works. If I turn it on, it all
stops working - as in, on my XP PC, when I view my workgroup computers, my
Laptop Vista PC shows up as being in the workgroup. However, when I double
click on it to access its files and folders, the warning message that I
quoted in my first post appears.

This is my problem, not getting other networked folders to share. If I even
only get the "Public" folder to share, that would make my day.

Check Start/ControlPanel/AdministrativeTools/WinFirewall+AdvSecurity ...
Windows Firewall Properties or Conection Security Rule (make a rule ...
?!? )

Does it work ?!?


"EW" <ewyatt_del_me-@excite.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Hans-Georg Michna" <hans-georgNoEmailPlease@michna.com> wrote in message
> newshrsn31n1qiao8vdhcujpbgssfkqcppafn@4ax.com...

>
> For most XP users, I don't think there is a feasible solution. I've read
> and tried the many solutions, and the endless "web links" for a solution,
> and they didn't work. Then I read about many more solutions, then more,
> then the MVPs want me to try more! All the while my XP and Vista systems
> perform flawlessly, except for XP's ability to access anything on Vista
> except the Public Folder (which does work).
>
> This is a problem that most XP users have, and just live with it -- they
> use the Public Folder like I do. Many people have the problem and don't
> report it. It's a problem that could be cured by allowing the option of
> Simple File Sharing, but NOOO.
>
> Is Microsoft listening? No.
>
> EW
>
>

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 17:08:00 -0800, Drake1500 wrote:

>I cannot access my vista PC at all

The normal procedure is described at: http://winhlp.com/node/179

Hans-Georg
--
No mail, please.

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 18:43:34 -0600, EW wrote:

>For most XP users, I don't think there is a feasible solution. I've read
>and tried the many solutions, and the endless "web links" for a solution,
>and they didn't work. Then I read about many more solutions, then more,
>then the MVPs want me to try more! All the while my XP and Vista systems
>perform flawlessly, except for XP's ability to access anything on Vista
>except the Public Folder (which does work).

Not all texts peddled as solutions are good. You must have
picked the bad ones.

The solution I recommended does work, not only in Windows XP,
but also in Windows Vista, as I now know. Chuck is giving it to
you again.

One can never be entirely sure, but all indications are that
this is the same, well-known problem, usually caused by
installing bad third-party security software, like the bad
Symantec-Norton stuff that many experts recommend against, and
by some other, similar software.

Out of curiosity, do you have any third party security software
installed? Or any VPN software?

Hans-Georg
--
No mail, please.

"Drake1500" wrote:

> Alright. I have looked at help files, I have searched all over the microsoft
> website, I have looked at previous question/answer topics from this section,
> but I cannot find out the answer to my problem.
>
> I have a laptop with Windows vista home premium, and a desktop with Windows
> XP Home. They connect through a wireless network. vista can access XP no
> problem. XP cannot access Vista with no problem: vista shows up in the
> network places, when I turn the password requirement to share off in vista, I
> can even access Vista from XP.
> BUT: when I turn the password requirements to share on in vista, I cannot
> access my vista PC from my XP PC. HOWEVER: the original accounts on both
> computers have the EXACT SAME name, AND the exact same password, even the
> password hint is the SAME! STILL I cannot access my Vista PC from my XP PC.
> I have tried creating another account on both PCs with the exact same
> specifications, but even then as long as the password requirement to share is
> set as on in Vista, I cannot access the files on my Vista PC.
> Always, the error message that pops up is:
>
>
> "\\**name of Vista PC** is not accessible. You might not have permission to
> use this network resource. Contact the administrator of this server to find
> out if you have access permissions.
>
> Logon failure: the user has not been granted the requested logon type at
> this computer."
>
> Please, if anyone knows what is wrong with anything I have done (and yes,
> network sharing of files and printers is definitely set to on) tell me here.
> If you have need of any other information (and yes, they use the same
> workgroup name) just ask.

The solution I found was to create a username and password on XP that
exactly matched what I have on the vista machine. Once I logged on to this I
was able to instantly access the laptop (vista) on the network and could view
the public and shared folders. Prior to this I couldn't get any access what
so ever. Not even to expand the laptop to see what shares were available.