Cannot Network Vista Home premium ( wireless) with XP (wired)

Hi There,

I have been trying to make this work and I could not. I read some threads
and followed the instructions and I still cannot make it work.

what happens:

I am not able to have a home network with a DESKTOP running Vista home
premiun (wireless) with my laptop running XP professional (wired). The
gateway is a wireless router.

Configuration:

Router act as DCP server.
Vista home premium had workgroup set to WORKGROUP
Vista netork discovery, File, public folder, password and printer Sharing
all enabled, and Network type = Private.
The SSID network has a different name
Enabled ports for UDP/TCP for windows vista firewall folowing the article.

Network discovery was able to find the laptop but when browsing to Network
in Vista I caould not see the laptop and I am not being able to ping from
Vista to XP and Vice versa. But I can ping from both to the Router

Windos XP

Enabled ports for TCP and UDP follwing the article
Workgroup is the same and was set to WORKGROUP

I Tried to see the workgroup under XP by clicking on workgroup but for some
reason it came with an error saying I was did not have privileges to check
the SSID Network.

I hope you can help me.

Thunder wrote:

> Hi There,
>
> I have been trying to make this work and I could not. I read some threads
> and followed the instructions and I still cannot make it work.
>
> what happens:
>
> I am not able to have a home network with a DESKTOP running Vista home
> premiun (wireless) with my laptop running XP professional (wired). The
> gateway is a wireless router.
>
> Configuration:
>
> Router act as DCP server.
> Vista home premium had workgroup set to WORKGROUP
> Vista netork discovery, File, public folder, password and printer Sharing
> all enabled, and Network type = Private.
> The SSID network has a different name
> Enabled ports for UDP/TCP for windows vista firewall folowing the article.
>
> Network discovery was able to find the laptop but when browsing to Network
> in Vista I caould not see the laptop and I am not being able to ping from
> Vista to XP and Vice versa. But I can ping from both to the Router
>
> Windos XP
>
> Enabled ports for TCP and UDP follwing the article
> Workgroup is the same and was set to WORKGROUP
>
> I Tried to see the workgroup under XP by clicking on workgroup but for some
> reason it came with an error saying I was did not have privileges to check
> the SSID Network.

The name of the SSID is irrelevant. Create identical user
accounts/passwords on both machines. If you wish a machine to boot
directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for
convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for
both XP and Vista:

Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm

Also check to make sure firewalls are configured correctly:

Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
(LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network
Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only
"gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you
aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with
"Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a
firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually
configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
subnet. Do not run more than one firewall.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User

Sorry since when I need to have the same accounts ?

I never use accounts.

And yes Firewalls are configured in the proper range.....

"Malke" wrote:

> Thunder wrote:

>
> The name of the SSID is irrelevant. Create identical user
> accounts/passwords on both machines. If you wish a machine to boot
> directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for
> convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for
> both XP and Vista:
>
> Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
>
> Also check to make sure firewalls are configured correctly:
>
> Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
> (LAN) traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
> File/Printer Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network
> Setup Wizard on XP will take care of this for those machines.The only
> "gotcha" is that this will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you
> aren't running a third-party firewall or have an antivirus with
> "Internet Worm Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a
> firewall, then you're fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually
> configure the LAN allowance with an IP range. Ex. would be
> 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you would substitute your correct
> subnet. Do not run more than one firewall.
>
>
> Malke
> --
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
> "Don't Panic!"
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>

"Thunder" wrote ...

>
> I have been trying to make this work and I could not. I read some threads
> and followed the instructions and I still cannot make it work.
>
> what happens:
>
> I am not able to have a home network with a DESKTOP running Vista home
> premiun (wireless) with my laptop running XP professional (wired). The
> gateway is a wireless router.
>
> Configuration:
>
> Router act as DCP server.
> Vista home premium had workgroup set to WORKGROUP
> Vista netork discovery, File, public folder, password and printer Sharing
> all enabled, and Network type = Private.
> The SSID network has a different name
> Enabled ports for UDP/TCP for windows vista firewall folowing the article.
>
> Network discovery was able to find the laptop but when browsing to
> Network
> in Vista I caould not see the laptop and I am not being able to ping from
> Vista to XP and Vice versa. But I can ping from both to the Router
>
> Windos XP
>
> Enabled ports for TCP and UDP follwing the article
> Workgroup is the same and was set to WORKGROUP
>
> I Tried to see the workgroup under XP by clicking on workgroup but for
> some
> reason it came with an error saying I was did not have privileges to check
> the SSID Network.
>

See me question about syncing below, I've just done almost exactly what you
want to do and it's working fine. (except for the syncing!!!)
The important thing is to ensure both computers have exactly the same name
for the network and the router name/details are the same in both.
I found I had to make the Network type ..public. It only means it's public
on your network which is what you want.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden

Thunder wrote:

> Sorry since when I need to have the same accounts ?
>
> I never use accounts.
>
> And yes Firewalls are configured in the proper range.....

Yes, you do use accounts whether you realize it or not. Vista is a
multi-user operating system, no matter if only one person is using it.
In all multi-user operating systems - NT, Win2k, XP, Vista, Unix, Linux,
Mac OSX - there is the one built-in account that is "god" on the system.
In Windows terminology, that is "Administrator". In the *nix world, it
is "root". This is a necessary account and is not normally
used in everyday work. You cannot delete the built-in Administrator
account nor would you ever want to. In fact, in Vista it is disabled by
default. Then you have user accounts which may or may not have
administrative privileges.

Go to Control Panel>User Accounts and look at the name of the user
accounts on both machines. If you have OEM machines (Dell, HP, etc.) and
never set up a user account yourself, the user account will be something
like HP_Administrator or Owner. For ease of networking, assign a
password to this account and then use control userpasswords2 per the
link I already gave you to set automatic log into the desired user account.

Then create the identical user account and password on both machines.

Note: Because the built-in Administrator account is disabled by default
in Vista, it is wise to create at least one extra user account with
administrative privileges along with your standard user account that you
will be in for most of your computing life. You may never log into the
extra account but if you need it in an emergency, you will be glad you
were smart enough to create it ahead of time.


Malke
--
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
"Don't Panic!"
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User