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Old 05-28-2006, 11:03 PM   #1 (permalink)
Default can't write to workgroup shares on vista B2 machine

I put Vista beta 2 on one of the five machines in my workgroup (wired
network, static IP addresses). The other machines can see and read the shared
drives, but not write to them ("Access is denied"). Assuming this was a
permissions issue, I gave "Everyone" full control on the drives, but still no
joy. Suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
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Old 05-28-2006, 11:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I also occasionally get this message on my server share - I can't understand
it either. However I went through the properties of the server share on my
server, and made sure that specific users on my Vista machine had access
(read and write) and the guest (test account) had only read permissions -
after that it was fixed.

But a bug wouldn't go a miss )

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>I put Vista beta 2 on one of the five machines in my workgroup (wired
> network, static IP addresses). The other machines can see and read the
> shared
> drives, but not write to them ("Access is denied"). Assuming this was a
> permissions issue, I gave "Everyone" full control on the drives, but still
> no
> joy. Suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.

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Old 05-29-2006, 12:05 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Is it necessary to grant some sort of permission on the Vista "server" to
specific users of the other machines? On XP workgroups, "Everyone" applies to
everyone on the network.

"Zack Whittaker" wrote:
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> I also occasionally get this message on my server share - I can't understand
> it either. However I went through the properties of the server share on my
> server, and made sure that specific users on my Vista machine had access
> (read and write) and the guest (test account) had only read permissions -
> after that it was fixed.
>
> But a bug wouldn't go a miss )
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> >I put Vista beta 2 on one of the five machines in my workgroup (wired
> > network, static IP addresses). The other machines can see and read the
> > shared
> > drives, but not write to them ("Access is denied"). Assuming this was a
> > permissions issue, I gave "Everyone" full control on the drives, but still
> > no
> > joy. Suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
>
>
>
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Old 05-29-2006, 12:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Turn off simple file sharing. Open an Explorer window, click Organize >
Folder Options > View (tab) > uncheck "Use Sharing Wizard (Recommended)" >
ok.

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>I put Vista beta 2 on one of the five machines in my workgroup (wired
> network, static IP addresses). The other machines can see and read the
> shared
> drives, but not write to them ("Access is denied"). Assuming this was a
> permissions issue, I gave "Everyone" full control on the drives, but still
> no
> joy. Suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.

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Old 05-29-2006, 01:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I created a share on the vista machine that gives full permisson to everyone.
I can't access this share on the XP machine without providing credentials.
They are both in the same network too. Either machine can't see the other
when I go to veiw workgroup computer. I also turned off "Use Sharing Wizard"
Something is not right here.


"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
Quote:
> Turn off simple file sharing. Open an Explorer window, click Organize >
> Folder Options > View (tab) > uncheck "Use Sharing Wizard (Recommended)" >
> ok.
>
> HTHs
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> --
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> >I put Vista beta 2 on one of the five machines in my workgroup (wired
> > network, static IP addresses). The other machines can see and read the
> > shared
> > drives, but not write to them ("Access is denied"). Assuming this was a
> > permissions issue, I gave "Everyone" full control on the drives, but still
> > no
> > joy. Suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
>
>
>
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Old 05-29-2006, 01:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I created a share on the vista machine that gives full permisson to everyone.
I can't access this share on the XP machine without providing credentials.
They are both in the same network too. Either machine can't see the other
when I go to veiw workgroup computer. I also turned off "Use Sharing Wizard"
Something is not right here.

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
Quote:
> Turn off simple file sharing. Open an Explorer window, click Organize >
> Folder Options > View (tab) > uncheck "Use Sharing Wizard (Recommended)" >
> ok.
>
> HTHs
> --
> --
> Andre
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> "mschatzleinmd" <mschatzleinmd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9D9446C6-C4AA-4644-B157-88BB5CE6ED1B@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> >I put Vista beta 2 on one of the five machines in my workgroup (wired
> > network, static IP addresses). The other machines can see and read the
> > shared
> > drives, but not write to them ("Access is denied"). Assuming this was a
> > permissions issue, I gave "Everyone" full control on the drives, but still
> > no
> > joy. Suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
>
>
>
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Old 05-29-2006, 01:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
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turning off simple file sharing didn't work for me either. went into safe
mode and fussed with permissions and ownership and basically loosened
everything up. the remaining problem for me is that the xp machines can't
write to the shares on the vista machine.

"anthonymel" wrote:
Quote:
> I created a share on the vista machine that gives full permisson to everyone.
> I can't access this share on the XP machine without providing credentials.
> They are both in the same network too. Either machine can't see the other
> when I go to veiw workgroup computer. I also turned off "Use Sharing Wizard"
> Something is not right here.
>
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
>
Quote:
> > Turn off simple file sharing. Open an Explorer window, click Organize >
> > Folder Options > View (tab) > uncheck "Use Sharing Wizard (Recommended)" >
> > ok.
> >
> > HTHs
> > --
> > --
> > Andre
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> > news:9D9446C6-C4AA-4644-B157-88BB5CE6ED1B@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> > >I put Vista beta 2 on one of the five machines in my workgroup (wired
> > > network, static IP addresses). The other machines can see and read the
> > > shared
> > > drives, but not write to them ("Access is denied"). Assuming this was a
> > > permissions issue, I gave "Everyone" full control on the drives, but still
> > > no
> > > joy. Suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
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Old 05-29-2006, 01:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Maybe its UAP, try disabling and see if it helps. Click Start > All Programs
Quote:
> Accessories > Run > type in MSCONFIG > OK > Tools (tab) > scroll down >
select "Disable UAP" > click "Launch" > close "Command Prompt" > restart
system for changes to take effect.

If that does not help, Open Control Panel (set to "Class View") > open
Windows Firewall > Exceptions tab > check "Network Discovery" > OK, try
accessing the share again from XP.

Also remember disable Simple File Sharing on the XP machine, maybe that was
causing the blockage.
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Quote:
>I created a share on the vista machine that gives full permisson to
>everyone.
> I can't access this share on the XP machine without providing credentials.
> They are both in the same network too. Either machine can't see the other
> when I go to veiw workgroup computer. I also turned off "Use Sharing
> Wizard"
> Something is not right here.
>
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
>
Quote:
>> Turn off simple file sharing. Open an Explorer window, click Organize >
>> Folder Options > View (tab) > uncheck "Use Sharing Wizard (Recommended)"
Quote:
>> >
>> ok.
>>
>> HTHs
>> --
>> --
>> Andre
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>>
>> "mschatzleinmd" <mschatzleinmd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message
>> news:9D9446C6-C4AA-4644-B157-88BB5CE6ED1B@microsoft.com...
Quote:
>> >I put Vista beta 2 on one of the five machines in my workgroup (wired
>> > network, static IP addresses). The other machines can see and read the
>> > shared
>> > drives, but not write to them ("Access is denied"). Assuming this was a
>> > permissions issue, I gave "Everyone" full control on the drives, but
>> > still
>> > no
>> > joy. Suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
>>
>>
>>

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Old 05-29-2006, 02:26 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Ok here's what I did for the folder sharing problem. It used to be in XP
that if you set permissions to Everyone they could access that share without
setting any security for that folder. Apprently Vista does not work this way.
Not only do you have to set the permissions for Everyone you also got to set
the security for Everyone. I set both permissions and security to read
access and I was able to access the share from my XP Machine with no problems
or security warnings.

I also noticed that if you are working on a wireless network Vista like to
recreate the network again. So make sure you don't have dups of your network
going on with different settings.

As for the network discovery I'll give you suggestions a try.

Here's another problem if someone else can check out. Create a share and
give administrators group full permission and full security. Then try to
access that drive from an XP machine using a username from the adminstrators
group other than the local administrator. I keep getting access denied
errors.

Thanks

"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
Quote:
> Maybe its UAP, try disabling and see if it helps. Click Start > All Programs
Quote:
> > Accessories > Run > type in MSCONFIG > OK > Tools (tab) > scroll down >
> select "Disable UAP" > click "Launch" > close "Command Prompt" > restart
> system for changes to take effect.
>
> If that does not help, Open Control Panel (set to "Class View") > open
> Windows Firewall > Exceptions tab > check "Network Discovery" > OK, try
> accessing the share again from XP.
>
> Also remember disable Simple File Sharing on the XP machine, maybe that was
> causing the blockage.
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> >I created a share on the vista machine that gives full permisson to
> >everyone.
> > I can't access this share on the XP machine without providing credentials.
> > They are both in the same network too. Either machine can't see the other
> > when I go to veiw workgroup computer. I also turned off "Use Sharing
> > Wizard"
> > Something is not right here.
> >
> > "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote:
> >
Quote:
> >> Turn off simple file sharing. Open an Explorer window, click Organize >
> >> Folder Options > View (tab) > uncheck "Use Sharing Wizard (Recommended)"
> >> >
> >> ok.
> >>
> >> HTHs
> >> --
> >> --
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> >> "mschatzleinmd" <mschatzleinmd@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message
> >> news:9D9446C6-C4AA-4644-B157-88BB5CE6ED1B@microsoft.com...
> >> >I put Vista beta 2 on one of the five machines in my workgroup (wired
> >> > network, static IP addresses). The other machines can see and read the
> >> > shared
> >> > drives, but not write to them ("Access is denied"). Assuming this was a
> >> > permissions issue, I gave "Everyone" full control on the drives, but
> >> > still
> >> > no
> >> > joy. Suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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Old 05-29-2006, 10:16 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Won't help - if the permissions are still the same on the network share,
changing a layout of what to share won't actually change the permissions -
so essentially you're just trying to add a files to a still broken network
share.

Try turning off UAC - might help?
http://www.vistabase.co.uk/welcome.p...ity/disableuap

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> Turn off simple file sharing. Open an Explorer window, click Organize >
> Folder Options > View (tab) > uncheck "Use Sharing Wizard (Recommended)" >
> ok.
>
> HTHs
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>>I put Vista beta 2 on one of the five machines in my workgroup (wired
>> network, static IP addresses). The other machines can see and read the
>> shared
>> drives, but not write to them ("Access is denied"). Assuming this was a
>> permissions issue, I gave "Everyone" full control on the drives, but
>> still no
>> joy. Suggestions would be welcome. Thanks.
>
>

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