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Old 05-25-2006, 05:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
Default CPU peaks/Mouse Lag in 5384.4

I have a nasty problem in 5381 and 5384.4. My CPU peaks every other second,
resulting in a temporary systom halt (cursor stops, sound interrupts, hard
drive pauses...). This happenned to me in previous builds only when
installed to SATA drive. In 5381 and 5384, it doesn't matter if I install it
on IDE or SATA, the problem is persistent

My config:

Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 754
Mobo Gigabyte K8VT800
1,5 GB RAM DDR
IDE and SATA drives (non-RAID)
GeForce 6600 AGP
Onboard Realtek AC97

Any ideas?
TIA


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Old 05-25-2006, 05:31 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Have you updated the video card drivers? Could be it.
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>I have a nasty problem in 5381 and 5384.4. My CPU peaks every other second,
>resulting in a temporary systom halt (cursor stops, sound interrupts, hard
>drive pauses...). This happenned to me in previous builds only when
>installed to SATA drive. In 5381 and 5384, it doesn't matter if I install
>it on IDE or SATA, the problem is persistent
>
> My config:
>
> Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 754
> Mobo Gigabyte K8VT800
> 1,5 GB RAM DDR
> IDE and SATA drives (non-RAID)
> GeForce 6600 AGP
> Onboard Realtek AC97
>
> Any ideas?
> TIA
>
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Old 05-25-2006, 05:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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No, unfortunatelly this is not the case ( I tried the new nvidia beta
drivers. Thanks though.

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>>I have a nasty problem in 5381 and 5384.4. My CPU peaks every other
>>second, resulting in a temporary systom halt (cursor stops, sound
>>interrupts, hard drive pauses...). This happenned to me in previous builds
>>only when installed to SATA drive. In 5381 and 5384, it doesn't matter if
>>I install it on IDE or SATA, the problem is persistent
>>
>> My config:
>>
>> Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 754
>> Mobo Gigabyte K8VT800
>> 1,5 GB RAM DDR
>> IDE and SATA drives (non-RAID)
>> GeForce 6600 AGP
>> Onboard Realtek AC97
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> TIA
>>
>

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Old 05-25-2006, 06:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Download SysInternal's Process Explorer Tool, it should help you
to isolate what is causing the processor % spikes.

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>I have a nasty problem in 5381 and 5384.4. My CPU peaks every other second,
>resulting in a temporary systom halt (cursor stops, sound interrupts, hard
>drive pauses...). This happenned to me in previous builds only when
>installed to SATA drive. In 5381 and 5384, it doesn't matter if I install
>it on IDE or SATA, the problem is persistent
>
> My config:
>
> Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 754
> Mobo Gigabyte K8VT800
> 1,5 GB RAM DDR
> IDE and SATA drives (non-RAID)
> GeForce 6600 AGP
> Onboard Realtek AC97
>
> Any ideas?
> TIA
>

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Old 05-25-2006, 06:30 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks! Its DPCs - Deferred Procedure Calls. Its performance graph looks
like a haircomb with evenly distributed spikes of similar height. Anyone
knows what this means?

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> Download SysInternal's Process Explorer Tool, it should help you
> to isolate what is causing the processor % spikes.
>
> "Jiří Fiala" <jiri.fiala@stereovideo.cz> wrote in message
> news:%23vjWlACgGHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Quote:
>>I have a nasty problem in 5381 and 5384.4. My CPU peaks every other
>>second, resulting in a temporary systom halt (cursor stops, sound
>>interrupts, hard drive pauses...). This happenned to me in previous builds
>>only when installed to SATA drive. In 5381 and 5384, it doesn't matter if
>>I install it on IDE or SATA, the problem is persistent
>>
>> My config:
>>
>> Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 754
>> Mobo Gigabyte K8VT800
>> 1,5 GB RAM DDR
>> IDE and SATA drives (non-RAID)
>> GeForce 6600 AGP
>> Onboard Realtek AC97
>>
>> Any ideas?
>> TIA
>>
>
>
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Old 05-26-2006, 10:51 PM   #6 (permalink)
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DPC's are used by either a device driver or by the kernel. Could be that one
of the device drivers you have installed is badly written. When writing
device drivers there are certain rules you need to take in account. One of
these rules is to have the amount of processor time for a DPC as low as
possible. So having a high number of DPC's is not necessarely a problem but
the processor time the DPC needs to execute is very important because it
runs in the active thread and it might hurt the performance of the process
you are running like for example a game or even in your case Windows. That's
also why Microsoft signs drivers with the WHQL logo they test for example
the microseconds DPC's need to execute which needs to be under a certain
limit.

What you can do is to see if this behavious is being caused by a certain
application.

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> Thanks! Its DPCs - Deferred Procedure Calls. Its performance graph looks
> like a haircomb with evenly distributed spikes of similar height. Anyone
> knows what this means?
>
> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
> news:eW%23kGeCgGHA.4304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Quote:
>> Download SysInternal's Process Explorer Tool, it should help you
>> to isolate what is causing the processor % spikes.
>>
>> "Jiří Fiala" <jiri.fiala@stereovideo.cz> wrote in message
>> news:%23vjWlACgGHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Quote:
>>>I have a nasty problem in 5381 and 5384.4. My CPU peaks every other
>>>second, resulting in a temporary systom halt (cursor stops, sound
>>>interrupts, hard drive pauses...). This happenned to me in previous
>>>builds only when installed to SATA drive. In 5381 and 5384, it doesn't
>>>matter if I install it on IDE or SATA, the problem is persistent
>>>
>>> My config:
>>>
>>> Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 754
>>> Mobo Gigabyte K8VT800
>>> 1,5 GB RAM DDR
>>> IDE and SATA drives (non-RAID)
>>> GeForce 6600 AGP
>>> Onboard Realtek AC97
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>> TIA
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Old 05-28-2006, 06:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It seems to be caused by faulty Nvidia driver. MS's driver in 5384 caused
the system to be virtually unusable with my Sparkle GeForce 6600, Nvidia's
newest driver helped alot, but there are still minor halts every 2
seconds... Never happened in XP and Vista builds prior 5365.

Thank you very much for response, though.

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> DPC's are used by either a device driver or by the kernel. Could be that
> one of the device drivers you have installed is badly written. When
> writing device drivers there are certain rules you need to take in
> account. One of these rules is to have the amount of processor time for a
> DPC as low as possible. So having a high number of DPC's is not
> necessarely a problem but the processor time the DPC needs to execute is
> very important because it runs in the active thread and it might hurt the
> performance of the process you are running like for example a game or even
> in your case Windows. That's also why Microsoft signs drivers with the
> WHQL logo they test for example the microseconds DPC's need to execute
> which needs to be under a certain limit.
>
> What you can do is to see if this behavious is being caused by a certain
> application.
>
> --
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> The .NET Aficionado
> http://www.pointerx.net
>
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> "Jir? Fiala" <stooovie@volny.cz> wrote in message
> news:8BBCA51D-19AF-4727-BAFA-16708674EB24@microsoft.com...
Quote:
>> Thanks! Its DPCs - Deferred Procedure Calls. Its performance graph looks
>> like a haircomb with evenly distributed spikes of similar height. Anyone
>> knows what this means?
>>
>> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>> news:eW%23kGeCgGHA.4304@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Quote:
>>> Download SysInternal's Process Explorer Tool, it should help you
>>> to isolate what is causing the processor % spikes.
>>>
>>> "Jiří Fiala" <jiri.fiala@stereovideo.cz> wrote in message
>>> news:%23vjWlACgGHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have a nasty problem in 5381 and 5384.4. My CPU peaks every other
>>>>second, resulting in a temporary systom halt (cursor stops, sound
>>>>interrupts, hard drive pauses...). This happenned to me in previous
>>>>builds only when installed to SATA drive. In 5381 and 5384, it doesn't
>>>>matter if I install it on IDE or SATA, the problem is persistent
>>>>
>>>> My config:
>>>>
>>>> Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 754
>>>> Mobo Gigabyte K8VT800
>>>> 1,5 GB RAM DDR
>>>> IDE and SATA drives (non-RAID)
>>>> GeForce 6600 AGP
>>>> Onboard Realtek AC97
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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Old 06-03-2006, 06:07 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Jiří Fiala Wrote:
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> I have a nasty problem
> Athlon 64 3000+ Socket 754
> Mobo Gigabyte K8VT800
> 1,5 GB RAM DDR
> IDE and SATA drives (non-RAID)
> GeForce 6600 AGP
> Onboard Realtek AC97
> Any ideas?
> TIAFor Vista/U 64-bit, I've got the same CPU (E6 step/754), same RAM size,
a 6200 AGP, PATA WD200 (and WD250, which I used to try the 32-bit
Vista/U). With the MS video driver installed 80% of the time the
system was dead, and with the Nvidia driver installed (whatever the
most recent was), 20% of the time is was dead. using the S/XGA video
(no acceleration) was fine. Neither MS nor nvidia had an acceleration
button in the troubleshoot panel (disabled button, actually). I bought
an ATI 9600 (fanless) for not much, for the purpose of seeing if ATI is
a little bit more agreeable. As mentioned, both the 32-bit and the
64-bit Vista versions have the same problem. This is a dfi nforce3 250
board. It runs xp64 fine.


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