Diferent versions of XP

>
> Hi Yall out there
> I was looking at the prices of XP at a computer retailer on the net and
> noticed a big diference in the prices on diferent versions of XP.
> Like XP Pro upgrade is about $190. and XP Pro oem full is $159. and it

> XP Pro was $279.
> What is the diference between The OEM version and XP Pro at $100.

> in price.
> Thanks alot
> Carl
> --
> Carl
>
>

> Greetings --
>
> There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
> much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:
>
> 1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally
> a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft
> has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are
> _permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An
> OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
> computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
> avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
> stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
> legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
> transfer ownership of the entire PC.
>
> 2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
> have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse
> is to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the
> OEM license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
> replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
> for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
> business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
> service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email
> support for problems with the OS.
>
> 3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
> OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard
> drive. It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a.
> an in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.
>
> 4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
> eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
> on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature.
> Further, such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum
> of device drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer
> feels necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was
> designed. (To be honest, such CDs should _not_ be available on the
> open market; but, if you're shopping someplace like eBay, swap meets,
> or computer fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until
> it's too late.) The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by
> Microsoft and sold to small systems builders, don't have this
> particular problem, though, and are pretty much the same as their
> retail counterparts, apart from the licensing, support, and upgrading
> restrictions.
>
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
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>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
> "Carl" <cgerving@ecenetdotcom> wrote in message
> news:%23pS8olY1DHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>

>>Hi Yall out there
>>I was looking at the prices of XP at a computer retailer on the net

>
> and
>

>>noticed a big diference in the prices on diferent versions of XP.
>>Like XP Pro upgrade is about $190. and XP Pro oem full is $159. and

>
> it said
>

>>XP Pro was $279.
>>What is the diference between The OEM version and XP Pro at $100.

>
> diference
>

>>in price.
>>Thanks alot
>>Carl
>>--
>>Carl
>>
>>

> Greetings --
>
> There are some very important reasons that an OEM license costs so
> much less than a retail license. OEM licenses are very limited:
>
> 1) OEM versions must be sold with a piece of hardware (normally
> a motherboard or hard drive, if not an entire PC, although Microsoft
> has greatly relaxed the hardware criteria for WinXP) and are
> _permanently_ bound to the first PC on which they are installed. An
> OEM license, once installed, is not legally transferable to another
> computer under any circumstances. This is the main reason some people
> avoid OEM versions; if the PC dies or is otherwise disposed of (even
> stolen), you cannot re-use your OEM license on a new PC. The only
> legitimate way to transfer the ownership of an OEM license is to
> transfer ownership of the entire PC.
>
> 2) Microsoft provides no free support for OEM versions. If you
> have any problems that require outside assistance, your only recourse
> is to contact the manufacturer/builder of the PC or the vendor of the
> OEM license. This would include such issues as lost a Product Key or
> replacing damaged installation media. (Microsoft does make allowances
> for those instances when you can prove that the OEM has gone out of
> business.) This doesn't mean that you can't download patches and
> service packs from Microsoft -- just no free telephone or email
> support for problems with the OS.
>
> 3) An OEM CD cannot be used to perform an upgrade of an earlier
> OS, as it was designed to be installed _only_ upon an empty hard
> drive. It can still be used to perform a repair installation (a.k.a.
> an in-place upgrade) of an existing WinXP installation.
>
> 4) If the OEM CD was designed by a specific manufacturer, such as
> eMachines, Sony, Dell, Gateway, etc., it will most likely only install
> on the same brand of PC, as an additional anti-piracy feature.
> Further, such CDs are severely customized to contain only the minimum
> of device drivers, and a lot of extra nonsense, that the manufacturer
> feels necessary for the specific model of PC for which the CD was
> designed. (To be honest, such CDs should _not_ be available on the
> open market; but, if you're shopping someplace like eBay, swap meets,
> or computer fairs, there's often no telling what you're buying until
> it's too late.) The "generic" OEM CDs, such as are manufactured by
> Microsoft and sold to small systems builders, don't have this
> particular problem, though, and are pretty much the same as their
> retail counterparts, apart from the licensing, support, and upgrading
> restrictions.
>
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> --
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on
> having both at once. -- RAH
>
>
> "Carl" <cgerving@ecenetdotcom> wrote in message
> news:%23pS8olY1DHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

> >
> > Hi Yall out there
> > I was looking at the prices of XP at a computer retailer on the net

> and

> > noticed a big diference in the prices on diferent versions of XP.
> > Like XP Pro upgrade is about $190. and XP Pro oem full is $159. and

> it said

> > XP Pro was $279.
> > What is the diference between The OEM version and XP Pro at $100.

> diference

> > in price.
> > Thanks alot
> > Carl
> > --
> > Carl
> >
> >

>
>

> Hi Carl,
>
> The difference between XP Pro and XP Pro Upgrade, is the Upgrade version
> requires you to have a previous operating system on your computer. The

> version, is the version you would receive without any of the
> packaging/manuals. It's just the CD and CD Key.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Thx,
> Nico Tomacelli
> Microsoft Corp.
> US - Windows Core:SOLID
>
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> "Carl" <cgerving@ecenetdotcom> wrote in message
> news:%23pS8olY1DHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

> >
> > Hi Yall out there
> > I was looking at the prices of XP at a computer retailer on the net and
> > noticed a big diference in the prices on diferent versions of XP.
> > Like XP Pro upgrade is about $190. and XP Pro oem full is $159. and it

> said

> > XP Pro was $279.
> > What is the diference between The OEM version and XP Pro at $100.

> diference

> > in price.
> > Thanks alot
> > Carl
> > --
> > Carl
> >
> >

>
>

> Hi Carl,
>
> The difference between XP Pro and XP Pro Upgrade, is the Upgrade version
> requires you to have a previous operating system on your computer. The

> version, is the version you would receive without any of the
> packaging/manuals. It's just the CD and CD Key.
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Thx,
> Nico Tomacelli
> Microsoft Corp.
> US - Windows Core:SOLID
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no

> ================================================== ===
> When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader
> so that others may learn and benefit from your issue.
> ================================================== ===
> "Carl" <cgerving@ecenetdotcom> wrote in message
> news:%23pS8olY1DHA.1736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

> >
> > Hi Yall out there
> > I was looking at the prices of XP at a computer retailer on the net and
> > noticed a big diference in the prices on diferent versions of XP.
> > Like XP Pro upgrade is about $190. and XP Pro oem full is $159. and it

> said

> > XP Pro was $279.
> > What is the diference between The OEM version and XP Pro at $100.

> diference

> > in price.
> > Thanks alot
> > Carl
> > --
> > Carl
> >
> >

>
>

> Thank you verry much Bruce, I understant it all now i think,
> If i am not particularly interested in Microsoft support i can get as
> much out of an oem version that i buy with new hardware as the Retail
> version then , is that about right ? I can probably get as good a
> support here on the news group as i would get calling microsoft
> ,since all of YOU knoledgeble people are out here on the news groups.
> I learn a lot reading these news groups.
> Thanks again Bruce
> Carl

> Thank you verry much Bruce, I understant it all now i think,
> If i am not particularly interested in Microsoft support i can get

> out of an oem version that i buy with new hardware as the Retail

> then , is that about right ? I can probably get as good a support

> the news group as i would get calling microsoft ,since all of YOU
> knoledgeble people are out here on the news groups.
> I learn a lot reading these news groups.
> Thanks again Bruce
> Carl