Document Collaboration Companion (DCC) availability

Posted: 03-18-2009, 05:55 PM
Version: 2008
Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
Processor: Intel

I am in the middle of deploying a trial of sharepoint server 2007 but am going to hold off until I see what DCC is like. 25% of my users are mac users and also I am going to have an internet facing site where it will be mac or pc users. Is there any new dates as far as the beta for DCC coming out? I would love to test.

There's $55k in it for Microsoft by me paying for not only sharepoint and cals and the additional Sharepoint Internet Server :)

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Jim Gordon MVP
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Re: Document Collaboration Companion (DCC) availability
Posted: 03-18-2009, 10:33 PM
bfiskrobot@officeformac.com wrote:
> Version: 2008
> Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
> Processor: Intel
>
> I am in the middle of deploying a trial of sharepoint server 2007 but am going to hold off until I see what DCC is like. 25% of my users are mac users and also I am going to have an internet facing site where it will be mac or pc users. Is there any new dates as far as the beta for DCC coming out? I would love to test.
>
> There's $55k in it for Microsoft by me paying for not only sharepoint and cals and the additional Sharepoint Internet Server :)
Hi,

That's a tough question to answer unless you have supernatural powers. I
don't have them.

I do have a web site you can keep an eye on:
http://www.microsoft.com/mac/itpros/dcc.mspx

-Jim

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Re: Document Collaboration Companion (DCC) availability
Posted: 03-24-2009, 01:10 AM
Hi there,

Since this product was supposed to go to beta at the end of February, can I assume that there has been a delay at this point?

If so, wouldn't a more appropriate date be "sometime before the end of October 2009" for the beta to be released?

That would be much more appropriate when setting expectations.

Thanks,
Eric
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Re: Document Collaboration Companion (DCC) availability
Posted: 03-27-2009, 01:40 PM
Maybe the web site could be updated to remove the February time frame
reference?

"Jim Gordon MVP" wrote:
> bfiskrobot@officeformac.com wrote:
> > Version: 2008
> > Operating System: Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard)
> > Processor: Intel
> >
> > I am in the middle of deploying a trial of sharepoint server 2007 but am going to hold off until I see what DCC is like. 25% of my users are mac users and also I am going to have an internet facing site where it will be mac or pc users. Is there any new dates as far as the beta for DCC coming out? I would love to test.
> >
> > There's $55k in it for Microsoft by me paying for not only sharepoint and cals and the additional Sharepoint Internet Server :)
> Hi,
>
> That's a tough question to answer unless you have supernatural powers. I
> don't have them.
>
> I do have a web site you can keep an eye on:
> http://www.microsoft.com/mac/itpros/dcc.mspx
>
> -Jim
>
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> Mac MVP
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Re: Document Collaboration Companion (DCC) availability
Posted: 03-27-2009, 03:02 PM
vasbinde@officeformac.com wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Since this product was supposed to go to beta at the end of February, can I assume that there has been a delay at this point?
>
> If so, wouldn't a more appropriate date be "sometime before the end of October 2009" for the beta to be released?
>
> That would be much more appropriate when setting expectations.
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
Hi,

Do you have a reference you can point me to about the February date? The
only thing I've seen about DCC is the web page I referred to, and that
page doesn't mention any time frame at all.

Thanks.

-Jim

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Re: Document Collaboration Companion (DCC) availability
Posted: 03-27-2009, 03:03 PM
This doesn't help for the Office tie in's but here is what I have done to make Sharepoint work for my non-ie/non-pc users.

Problem 1: WYSIWYG editor

There is only a WYSIWYG editor when you are using Internet explorer. Any other program will give you just html code which is unacceptable. The two functions that this stinks with is editing wikis and replying to discussion groups. I cant believe MS thinks that people will use sharepoint as an Internet web server when people will go to reply to a discussion and get raw html.

Solution: RadEditor by telerik. <http://www.telerik.com/products/aspnet-ajax/sharepoint.aspx> They make a bunch of tools which come for a fee but you can download and use radeditor lite for free. It is a server add-on which will give you a wysiwyg editor for all browsers. Working nicely.

Problem 2: Accessing document libraries with non-IE browsers and non-win os. If you don't use IE you are forced to use the web browser to checkout, download, edit, upload and checkin your documents. You can only do one file at a time compared to being on a pc where you can upload multiple files, launch explorer view or work with documents directly from office.

Solution: Use a Webdav file client. On mac I am using cyberduck. I am still evaluating linux programs as there seems to be a common problem with linux webdav programs and davfs (to mount a sharepoint library on your linux box). The problem is that it does not support folders or files with spaces. I.E. Shared Documents. In order for you to use these programs make sure you have your sharepoint site has basic authentication turned on as most programs wont use NTLM auth and will give you a login failed error. You can enable basic authentication under IIS admin, your sharepoint site, authentication. One other thing that is helpful is in your document library settings under versioning, make sure you have "Require documents to be checked out before they can be edited" set to no. This way in your webdav client you can easily drag and drop files into the document library. If you overwrite a file it creates it as a new version automatically.

I hope this helps mac/linux people work with sharepoint. Sharepoint is an AMAZING tool for enterprise content management and collaboration. It's just too bad it has taken me days and a lot of research to put these solutions together to make it a viable option for my business which is 25% mac and 25% linux.

I wont be able to use all of the killer document collaboration features until DCC comes out. I hope it will help us all use this wonderful tool! There are still other setback when not using I.E. but the two solutions above have allowed me to move forward and implement sharepoint for my business. MACBU: PLEASE HELP US!
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Re: Document Collaboration Companion (DCC) availability
Posted: 04-01-2009, 07:37 PM
Ok so now, the official stance has changed to "private beta".. great :s

Any reason for this change ? I initially got the impression that DCC was supposed to be a public beta available on Microsoft Connect just like Entourage currently is.

Will there even BE a public beta ? I ask as we've recently deployed SP 2007 and I'd love to see how DCC is supposed to bridge the gap/missing link when dealing with Sharepoint on the mac.

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Adrian
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Re: Document Collaboration Companion (DCC) availability
Posted: 04-02-2009, 10:49 PM
adisor19@officeformac.com wrote:
> Ok so now, the official stance has changed to "private beta".. great :s
>
> Any reason for this change ? I initially got the impression that DCC was supposed to be a public beta available on Microsoft Connect just like Entourage currently is.
>
> Will there even BE a public beta ? I ask as we've recently deployed SP 2007 and I'd love to see how DCC is supposed to bridge the gap/missing link when dealing with Sharepoint on the mac.
>
> Regards,
>
> Adrian
May I repeat the question I raised to vasbinde (which wasn't answered)
question to you?

Where are you getting this "official" information from?

Thanks.

-Jim

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Re: Document Collaboration Companion (DCC) availability
Posted: 04-08-2009, 02:10 PM
It sure would be nice if someone form MICROSOFT would tell us what's going on
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Re: Document Collaboration Companion (DCC) availability
Posted: 04-08-2009, 06:25 PM
> vasbinde@officeformac.com wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Since this product was supposed to go to beta at the end of February, can I assume that there has been a delay at this point?
> >
> > If so, wouldn't a more appropriate date be "sometime before the end of October 2009" for the beta to be released?
> >
> > That would be much more appropriate when setting expectations.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Eric
>
> Hi,
>
> Do you have a reference you can point me to about the February date? The
> only thing I've seen about DCC is the web page I referred to, and that
> page doesn't mention any time frame at all.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -Jim
>
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> Jim Gordon
> Mac MVP
> <http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/>
>
Actually the site you referenced does list a date as follows "Document Collaboration Companion will be released in a private beta in February."

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