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Old 10-07-2006, 07:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
Default Does anyone from Microsoft read this group?

I see a lot of questions that should be very basic, but have no answers, or
if they do have answers they are from other users.
No authoritative answers.
I am having the same problem that many others are. To put it very simply,
My network worked just fine with XP. I have multiple computers on the same
network. Vista RC1 does not connect outside my local network. The only help
from Vista suggests that the problem is with the router, which obviously is
wrong because I am sitting at my other computer right next to vista computer
typing this message.
Obviously there is something about Vista that does not like my connection
and is unable to clearly relate this information.
My internet connection is via Canopy which has a NAT router and firewall
already installed. Disabling the Vista fire wall does not help.

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Old 10-07-2006, 11:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I had issue
I resolved it by creating static IP's on the local LAN
then picked the advanced option and manually set the value in "interface
value"



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Quote:
>I see a lot of questions that should be very basic, but have no answers, or
> if they do have answers they are from other users.
> No authoritative answers.
> I am having the same problem that many others are. To put it very simply,
> My network worked just fine with XP. I have multiple computers on the same
> network. Vista RC1 does not connect outside my local network. The only
> help
> from Vista suggests that the problem is with the router, which obviously
> is
> wrong because I am sitting at my other computer right next to vista
> computer
> typing this message.
> Obviously there is something about Vista that does not like my connection
> and is unable to clearly relate this information.
> My internet connection is via Canopy which has a NAT router and firewall
> already installed. Disabling the Vista fire wall does not help.
>
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Old 10-08-2006, 02:36 AM   #3 (permalink)
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That did not solve the problem for me. Did your NAT use a "local" address?
This is the case with my network. I don't think a static IP would have solved
this problem and in either case I am not sure that this is a good solution.
I verified that the DHCP address generated was a "good" address for my
network and I also verified that the settings for "the old" ip address were
exactly the same for Vista and for XP. So it is definitely a problem with
VISTA.
My local network is using 169.254.1.x as an address.


"Techno-Crat" wrote:
Quote:
> I had issue
> I resolved it by creating static IP's on the local LAN
> then picked the advanced option and manually set the value in "interface
> value"
>
>
>
> "Dissatisfied" <Dissatisfied@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:484B9436-922A-4DF5-BC62-D08FA498187C@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> >I see a lot of questions that should be very basic, but have no answers, or
> > if they do have answers they are from other users.
> > No authoritative answers.
> > I am having the same problem that many others are. To put it very simply,
> > My network worked just fine with XP. I have multiple computers on the same
> > network. Vista RC1 does not connect outside my local network. The only
> > help
> > from Vista suggests that the problem is with the router, which obviously
> > is
> > wrong because I am sitting at my other computer right next to vista
> > computer
> > typing this message.
> > Obviously there is something about Vista that does not like my connection
> > and is unable to clearly relate this information.
> > My internet connection is via Canopy which has a NAT router and firewall
> > already installed. Disabling the Vista fire wall does not help.
> >
>
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Old 10-08-2006, 03:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
Default Re: Does anyone from Microsoft read this group?

In your TCP/IP settings, ipv4, try setting your DNS server as your routers
IP address, and add your ISPs DNS server as alternative DNS.

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Quote:
> That did not solve the problem for me. Did your NAT use a "local" address?
> This is the case with my network. I don't think a static IP would have
> solved
> this problem and in either case I am not sure that this is a good
> solution.
> I verified that the DHCP address generated was a "good" address for my
> network and I also verified that the settings for "the old" ip address
> were
> exactly the same for Vista and for XP. So it is definitely a problem with
> VISTA.
> My local network is using 169.254.1.x as an address.
>
>
> "Techno-Crat" wrote:
>
Quote:
>> I had issue
>> I resolved it by creating static IP's on the local LAN
>> then picked the advanced option and manually set the value in "interface
>> value"
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dissatisfied" <Dissatisfied@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:484B9436-922A-4DF5-BC62-D08FA498187C@microsoft.com...
Quote:
>> >I see a lot of questions that should be very basic, but have no answers,
>> >or
>> > if they do have answers they are from other users.
>> > No authoritative answers.
>> > I am having the same problem that many others are. To put it very
>> > simply,
>> > My network worked just fine with XP. I have multiple computers on the
>> > same
>> > network. Vista RC1 does not connect outside my local network. The only
>> > help
>> > from Vista suggests that the problem is with the router, which
>> > obviously
>> > is
>> > wrong because I am sitting at my other computer right next to vista
>> > computer
>> > typing this message.
>> > Obviously there is something about Vista that does not like my
>> > connection
>> > and is unable to clearly relate this information.
>> > My internet connection is via Canopy which has a NAT router and
>> > firewall
>> > already installed. Disabling the Vista fire wall does not help.
>> >
>>
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Old 10-08-2006, 04:52 AM   #5 (permalink)
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169.254.x.x is an APIPA address

http://wiki.ethereal.com/APIPA

It would be unusual to use this range with a NAT router. Most consumer NAT
routers cannot be configured to use this range. An IP address in this range
usually means that your computer could not contact a DHCP server (normally
your router) and automatically generated an APIPA address. Can you ping your
router or other computers on your network?

--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Dissatisfied wrote:
Quote:
> That did not solve the problem for me. Did your NAT use a "local"
> address? This is the case with my network. I don't think a static IP
> would have solved this problem and in either case I am not sure that
> this is a good solution. I verified that the DHCP address generated
> was a "good" address for my network and I also verified that the
> settings for "the old" ip address were exactly the same for Vista and
> for XP. So it is definitely a problem with VISTA.
> My local network is using 169.254.1.x as an address.
>
>
> "Techno-Crat" wrote:
>
Quote:
>> I had issue
>> I resolved it by creating static IP's on the local LAN
>> then picked the advanced option and manually set the value in
>> "interface value"
>>
>>
>>
>> "Dissatisfied" <Dissatisfied@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> message news:484B9436-922A-4DF5-BC62-D08FA498187C@microsoft.com...
Quote:
>>> I see a lot of questions that should be very basic, but have no
>>> answers, or if they do have answers they are from other users.
>>> No authoritative answers.
>>> I am having the same problem that many others are. To put it very
>>> simply, My network worked just fine with XP. I have multiple
>>> computers on the same network. Vista RC1 does not connect outside
>>> my local network. The only help
>>> from Vista suggests that the problem is with the router, which
>>> obviously is
>>> wrong because I am sitting at my other computer right next to vista
>>> computer
>>> typing this message.
>>> Obviously there is something about Vista that does not like my
>>> connection and is unable to clearly relate this information.
>>> My internet connection is via Canopy which has a NAT router and
>>> firewall already installed. Disabling the Vista fire wall does not
>>> help.

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Old 10-10-2006, 12:58 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I may be unusual, but Motorola Canopy CPE devices have always used this
address range and in the case of my ISP, there are over 3000 subscribers
using it without any problems.
Here is some additional information:
1. The Vista computer is using the same IP set-up as it did when it was an
XP machine.
2. From the cmd.exe window, I can use NSLOOKUP to find any number of ip
addresses. Once I have an IP address, I can ping it to my hearts content
without a problem.
3. If I have an IP address, like the one for my ISP 64.135.192.25, I can ftp
to it from the command window.
So the problem appears to be with some setup in the internet explorer or
windows itself.


"Kerry Brown" wrote:
Quote:
> 169.254.x.x is an APIPA address
>
> http://wiki.ethereal.com/APIPA
>
> It would be unusual to use this range with a NAT router. Most consumer NAT
> routers cannot be configured to use this range. An IP address in this range
> usually means that your computer could not contact a DHCP server (normally
> your router) and automatically generated an APIPA address. Can you ping your
> router or other computers on your network?
>
> --
> Kerry
> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>
>
> Dissatisfied wrote:
Quote:
> > That did not solve the problem for me. Did your NAT use a "local"
> > address? This is the case with my network. I don't think a static IP
> > would have solved this problem and in either case I am not sure that
> > this is a good solution. I verified that the DHCP address generated
> > was a "good" address for my network and I also verified that the
> > settings for "the old" ip address were exactly the same for Vista and
> > for XP. So it is definitely a problem with VISTA.
> > My local network is using 169.254.1.x as an address.
> >
> >
> > "Techno-Crat" wrote:
> >
Quote:
> >> I had issue
> >> I resolved it by creating static IP's on the local LAN
> >> then picked the advanced option and manually set the value in
> >> "interface value"
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Dissatisfied" <Dissatisfied@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> message news:484B9436-922A-4DF5-BC62-D08FA498187C@microsoft.com...
> >>> I see a lot of questions that should be very basic, but have no
> >>> answers, or if they do have answers they are from other users.
> >>> No authoritative answers.
> >>> I am having the same problem that many others are. To put it very
> >>> simply, My network worked just fine with XP. I have multiple
> >>> computers on the same network. Vista RC1 does not connect outside
> >>> my local network. The only help
> >>> from Vista suggests that the problem is with the router, which
> >>> obviously is
> >>> wrong because I am sitting at my other computer right next to vista
> >>> computer
> >>> typing this message.
> >>> Obviously there is something about Vista that does not like my
> >>> connection and is unable to clearly relate this information.
> >>> My internet connection is via Canopy which has a NAT router and
> >>> firewall already installed. Disabling the Vista fire wall does not
> >>> help.
>
>
>
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Old 10-12-2006, 09:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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See the thread titled "Vista RC2 - Unable to resolve Internet Names in IE
but NSlookup works!!" Someone else is having a very similar problem with RC2
on a network that uses APIPA addresses. It sounds like a bug. You should
report it.

--
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MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


Dissatisfied wrote:
Quote:
> I may be unusual, but Motorola Canopy CPE devices have always used
> this address range and in the case of my ISP, there are over 3000
> subscribers using it without any problems.
> Here is some additional information:
> 1. The Vista computer is using the same IP set-up as it did when it
> was an XP machine.
> 2. From the cmd.exe window, I can use NSLOOKUP to find any number of
> ip addresses. Once I have an IP address, I can ping it to my hearts
> content without a problem.
> 3. If I have an IP address, like the one for my ISP 64.135.192.25, I
> can ftp to it from the command window.
> So the problem appears to be with some setup in the internet explorer
> or windows itself.
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
Quote:
>> 169.254.x.x is an APIPA address
>>
>> http://wiki.ethereal.com/APIPA
>>
>> It would be unusual to use this range with a NAT router. Most
>> consumer NAT routers cannot be configured to use this range. An IP
>> address in this range usually means that your computer could not
>> contact a DHCP server (normally your router) and automatically
>> generated an APIPA address. Can you ping your router or other
>> computers on your network?
>>
>> --
>> Kerry
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> Dissatisfied wrote:
Quote:
>>> That did not solve the problem for me. Did your NAT use a "local"
>>> address? This is the case with my network. I don't think a static IP
>>> would have solved this problem and in either case I am not sure that
>>> this is a good solution. I verified that the DHCP address generated
>>> was a "good" address for my network and I also verified that the
>>> settings for "the old" ip address were exactly the same for Vista
>>> and for XP. So it is definitely a problem with VISTA.
>>> My local network is using 169.254.1.x as an address.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Techno-Crat" wrote:
>>>
>>>> I had issue
>>>> I resolved it by creating static IP's on the local LAN
>>>> then picked the advanced option and manually set the value in
>>>> "interface value"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Dissatisfied" <Dissatisfied@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>>>> message news:484B9436-922A-4DF5-BC62-D08FA498187C@microsoft.com...
>>>>> I see a lot of questions that should be very basic, but have no
>>>>> answers, or if they do have answers they are from other users.
>>>>> No authoritative answers.
>>>>> I am having the same problem that many others are. To put it very
>>>>> simply, My network worked just fine with XP. I have multiple
>>>>> computers on the same network. Vista RC1 does not connect outside
>>>>> my local network. The only help
>>>>> from Vista suggests that the problem is with the router, which
>>>>> obviously is
>>>>> wrong because I am sitting at my other computer right next to
>>>>> vista computer
>>>>> typing this message.
>>>>> Obviously there is something about Vista that does not like my
>>>>> connection and is unable to clearly relate this information.
>>>>> My internet connection is via Canopy which has a NAT router and
>>>>> firewall already installed. Disabling the Vista fire wall does not
>>>>> help.

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