dreaded spaces in shell special folders

Posted: 10-04-2008, 10:32 PM

I just found a little tutorial that shows how to open shell specia
folders fro
a command prompt. As in C:\>start shell:Persona
to open the Documents folder. All well and good but naturally there'
no exampl
to demonstrate doing the same with a shell folder that has spaces i
the name

Example: C:\>start shell:Quick Launch gets an error "cannot fin
shell:Quick
I tried double quotes, single quotes in as many combinations I coul
could contriv
but no joy

Anyone have the easter egg that works

(btw I notice nobody is taking credit for the great innovation o
spaces in file paths.

edit: btw I have search indexing disabled to it's no good to use th
search in the start button. I need to use a command promp

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dreaded spaces in shell special folders


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Pavel A.
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Re: dreaded spaces in shell special folders
Posted: 10-04-2008, 11:07 PM
MilesAhead wrote:
> I just found a little tutorial that shows how to open shell special
> folders from
> a command prompt. As in C:\>start shell:Personal
> to open the Documents folder. All well and good but naturally there's
> no example
> to demonstrate doing the same with a shell folder that has spaces in
> the name.
>
> Example: C:\>start shell:Quick Launch gets an error "cannot find
> shell:Quick"
> I tried double quotes, single quotes in as many combinations I could
> could contrive
> but no joy.
>
> Anyone have the easter egg that works?
>
> (btw I notice nobody is taking credit for the great innovation of
> spaces in file paths.)
>
> edit: btw I have search indexing disabled to it's no good to use the
> search in the start button. I need to use a command prompt
Try: start "junk" "shell:my music"

List of valid shell folder names is in registry;
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Exp lorer\Shell Folders

The "quick launch" is not among them, so it won't work anyway.

Regards,
--PA
MilesAhead
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Re: dreaded spaces in shell special folders
Posted: 10-06-2008, 01:27 AM

C:>explorer "shell:quick launch" does the trick. I'd still like to ge
my hands on the gu
who gave the OK to spaces in file paths. It's the biggest PITA i
Windows. Som
APIs you have to double quote if there's a space, some you don't.
Reduces everything to trial and error when capitalization works just a
well for setting off words in the filename. Those spaces are driving m
mad!!

:sa

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Ramesh Srinivasan, MS-MVP
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Re: dreaded spaces in shell special folders
Posted: 10-06-2008, 06:03 AM
And here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SOFTWARE \ Microsoft \ Windows \ CurrentVersion \
explorer \ FolderDescriptions

http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/sh...ecial-folders/
(with due credits to MS-MVP Keith Miller.)

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The Winhelponline Blog http://www.winhelponline.com/blog


"Pavel A." <pavel_a@NOfastmailNO.fm> wrote in message
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> MilesAhead wrote:
>> I just found a little tutorial that shows how to open shell special
>> folders from
>> a command prompt. As in C:\>start shell:Personal
>> to open the Documents folder. All well and good but naturally there's
>> no example
>> to demonstrate doing the same with a shell folder that has spaces in
>> the name.
>>
>> Example: C:\>start shell:Quick Launch gets an error "cannot find
>> shell:Quick"
>> I tried double quotes, single quotes in as many combinations I could
>> could contrive
>> but no joy.
>>
>> Anyone have the easter egg that works?
>>
>> (btw I notice nobody is taking credit for the great innovation of
>> spaces in file paths.)
>>
>> edit: btw I have search indexing disabled to it's no good to use the
>> search in the start button. I need to use a command prompt
>
> Try: start "junk" "shell:my music"
>
> List of valid shell folder names is in registry;
> HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Exp lorer\Shell Folders
>
> The "quick launch" is not among them, so it won't work anyway.
>
> Regards,
> --PA

MilesAhead
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Re: dreaded spaces in shell special folders
Posted: 10-06-2008, 07:02 PM

That's how I got into this thing with one of those blogs tha
demonstrates opening a special folder from the command line. Seems the
all neglect to demonstrate the case with the space. Always in Window
now you have to do this when applicable or the info is nearly useless
The reader is left to waste several hours when the blogge
supposedly already knows the answer. Also not everyone puts up wit
Windows search. So only demonstrating from the search line is hal
baked. Running locate3
manually saves me from Windows Indexing running my HD endlessly

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R. C. White
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Re: dreaded spaces in shell special folders
Posted: 10-16-2008, 04:30 PM
Hi, MilesAhead.
> I'd still like to get
> my hands on the guy
> who gave the OK to spaces in file paths. It's the biggest PITA in
> Windows.
It's not just Windows. LFNs (Long File Names) arrived in MS-DOS version 6.2
in 1994, as I recall, and Win95, but there were spaces in file names before
that. I'm sure there are more authoritative sources but, for now, have a
look at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_filename
"The first Microsoft Windows operating system to implement long filenames on
FAT was Windows NT 3.5 in 1994."

and:
"Prior to the release of OS/2 and Windows NT, one of the first file systems
to support long names and spaces was the Macintosh File System, written for
the original version of Mac OS on the Macintosh 128K released in January
1984."

Maybe Steve Jobs is the guy you're looking for?

RC
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"MilesAhead" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
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>
> C:>explorer "shell:quick launch" does the trick. I'd still like to get
> my hands on the guy
> who gave the OK to spaces in file paths. It's the biggest PITA in
> Windows. Some
> APIs you have to double quote if there's a space, some you don't.
> Reduces everything to trial and error when capitalization works just as
> well for setting off words in the filename. Those spaces are driving me
> mad!!!
>
> :sa:
>
>
> --
> MilesAhead
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Re: dreaded spaces in shell special folders
Posted: 10-17-2008, 12:31 AM
I don't want to argue, because I am not that certain of it myself, but going
back to my DOS 3.0 days and forward, I don't believe any version of DOS ever
supported more than 8.3 format. Even to work with DOS under Win95, you had
to use 7~.3 format to keep it to 8 in the prefix. Win3.11 did not support
long file names, and used the DOS format. And as another mentioned, Mac led
the way in this.

That's how I remember it.


"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote in message
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> Hi, MilesAhead.
>
>> I'd still like to get
>> my hands on the guy
>> who gave the OK to spaces in file paths. It's the biggest PITA in
>> Windows.
>
> It's not just Windows. LFNs (Long File Names) arrived in MS-DOS version
> 6.2 in 1994, as I recall, and Win95, but there were spaces in file names
> before that. I'm sure there are more authoritative sources but, for now,
> have a look at:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_filename
> "The first Microsoft Windows operating system to implement long filenames
> on FAT was Windows NT 3.5 in 1994."
>
> and:
> "Prior to the release of OS/2 and Windows NT, one of the first file
> systems to support long names and spaces was the Macintosh File System,
> written for the original version of Mac OS on the Macintosh 128K released
> in January 1984."
>
> Maybe Steve Jobs is the guy you're looking for?
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>
> "MilesAhead" <guest@unknown-email.com> wrote in message
> news:39e5e1c2bdfbdd4abd7def70df3b3006@nntp-gateway.com...
>>
>> C:>explorer "shell:quick launch" does the trick. I'd still like to get
>> my hands on the guy
>> who gave the OK to spaces in file paths. It's the biggest PITA in
>> Windows. Some
>> APIs you have to double quote if there's a space, some you don't.
>> Reduces everything to trial and error when capitalization works just as
>> well for setting off words in the filename. Those spaces are driving me
>> mad!!!
>>
>> :sa:
>>
>>
>> --
>> MilesAhead
>
 
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