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Old 10-02-2003, 03:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How do I do "insert edit", keeping original sound track?
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Old 10-02-2003, 08:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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> How do I do "insert edit", keeping original sound track?
I don't know if this is the 'proper' way, but here's how I did it...

Drag your clip to the audio track on the time line. Also drag it to the
video track on the time line. Mute the audio track that's associated with
the video clip so you can only hear the separate audio track.

Next, preview your clip until you get the the point when you want to insert
another clip (or still). Use the split tool (or Ctrl-L) to cut the clip at
the current frame. Then continue to preview the clip up until the point you
want to cut back in again. Use the split tool again to cut the clip. You
should now have three clips on the time line and all should be in sync with
the sound in the audio track.

Now delete the middle clip. The third clip will immediately jump to the
left to follow on from the first clip, which puts it out of sync with the
audio track, but don't worry about this for now. Select the clip or still
that you want to insert and drag it to the time line in between the
remaining two clips. Mute its sound. Trim the start and end points so that
it forces the right hand end of the third clip to match *precisely* the
right hand end of the audio track.

The result is that you will have a clip, a cutaway, and a return to the
clip, all with the original clip's sound.

Don't know if there's a better way, but I've only been using it for a week
and that's the best I've come up with so far.

HTH

Jake


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Old 10-02-2003, 09:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Jake,

Your way is good. Just a note. If you don't mute any of the clips, and zoom
into the timeline as far as you can - you can use the audio patterns to
align the clips in the two tracks. It's easy to see a one frame mismatch.
That way, you can stay focused on the area to be cut out, and not have to
move to the end of the 3rd clip to do your alignment - especially if you've
already edited the end(s) of the clips.


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> "David Gardner" <dgardner50@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:108401c388fa$a21da840$a001280a@phx.gbl...
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> > How do I do "insert edit", keeping original sound track?
>
> I don't know if this is the 'proper' way, but here's how I did it...
>
> Drag your clip to the audio track on the time line. Also drag it to the
> video track on the time line. Mute the audio track that's associated with
> the video clip so you can only hear the separate audio track.
>
> Next, preview your clip until you get the the point when you want to
insert
Quote:
> another clip (or still). Use the split tool (or Ctrl-L) to cut the clip
at
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> the current frame. Then continue to preview the clip up until the point
you
Quote:
> want to cut back in again. Use the split tool again to cut the clip. You
> should now have three clips on the time line and all should be in sync
with
Quote:
> the sound in the audio track.
>
> Now delete the middle clip. The third clip will immediately jump to the
> left to follow on from the first clip, which puts it out of sync with the
> audio track, but don't worry about this for now. Select the clip or still
> that you want to insert and drag it to the time line in between the
> remaining two clips. Mute its sound. Trim the start and end points so
that
Quote:
> it forces the right hand end of the third clip to match *precisely* the
> right hand end of the audio track.
>
> The result is that you will have a clip, a cutaway, and a return to the
> clip, all with the original clip's sound.
>
> Don't know if there's a better way, but I've only been using it for a week
> and that's the best I've come up with so far.
>
> HTH
>
> Jake
>
>

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Old 10-02-2003, 10:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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PS - then mute clips as needed when done.

"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Jake,
>
> Your way is good. Just a note. If you don't mute any of the clips, and
zoom
Quote:
> into the timeline as far as you can - you can use the audio patterns to
> align the clips in the two tracks. It's easy to see a one frame mismatch.
> That way, you can stay focused on the area to be cut out, and not have to
> move to the end of the 3rd clip to do your alignment - especially if
you've
Quote:
> already edited the end(s) of the clips.
>
>
> PapaJohn
>
>
> "Jake" <jake@your mind.jake.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:uVMv8VSiDHA.2192@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
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> > "David Gardner" <dgardner50@msn.com> wrote in message
> > news:108401c388fa$a21da840$a001280a@phx.gbl...
Quote:
> > > How do I do "insert edit", keeping original sound track?
> >
> > I don't know if this is the 'proper' way, but here's how I did it...
> >
> > Drag your clip to the audio track on the time line. Also drag it to the
> > video track on the time line. Mute the audio track that's associated
with
Quote:
Quote:
> > the video clip so you can only hear the separate audio track.
> >
> > Next, preview your clip until you get the the point when you want to
> insert
Quote:
> > another clip (or still). Use the split tool (or Ctrl-L) to cut the clip
> at
Quote:
> > the current frame. Then continue to preview the clip up until the point
> you
Quote:
> > want to cut back in again. Use the split tool again to cut the clip.
You
Quote:
Quote:
> > should now have three clips on the time line and all should be in sync
> with
Quote:
> > the sound in the audio track.
> >
> > Now delete the middle clip. The third clip will immediately jump to the
> > left to follow on from the first clip, which puts it out of sync with
the
Quote:
Quote:
> > audio track, but don't worry about this for now. Select the clip or
still
Quote:
Quote:
> > that you want to insert and drag it to the time line in between the
> > remaining two clips. Mute its sound. Trim the start and end points so
> that
Quote:
> > it forces the right hand end of the third clip to match *precisely* the
> > right hand end of the audio track.
> >
> > The result is that you will have a clip, a cutaway, and a return to the
> > clip, all with the original clip's sound.
> >
> > Don't know if there's a better way, but I've only been using it for a
week
Quote:
Quote:
> > and that's the best I've come up with so far.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Jake
> >
> >
>
>

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Old 10-03-2003, 08:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Jake,
>
> Your way is good. Just a note. If you don't mute any of the clips, and
zoom
Quote:
> into the timeline as far as you can - you can use the audio patterns to
> align the clips in the two tracks. It's easy to see a one frame mismatch.
> That way, you can stay focused on the area to be cut out, and not have to
> move to the end of the 3rd clip to do your alignment - especially if
you've
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> already edited the end(s) of the clips.
>
>
> PapaJohn
>
Very good tip - thank you :-)

Jake


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Old 10-07-2003, 04:40 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Can you cut and paste within a clip? All I can do right
now is trip the beginning and end of a clip. I want to be
able to edit in the middle of the clip.

Please help.

Kasi

p.s. Does anyone know about Pinnacle's Studio 8 quick
start? I'm having the same issue there too.
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Old 10-07-2003, 05:43 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You can cut a clip in as many places as you want, and edit each of the
sub-clips individually. That includes putting new clips between sub-clips,
and copying/pasting any of the subclips.

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> Can you cut and paste within a clip? All I can do right
> now is trip the beginning and end of a clip. I want to be
> able to edit in the middle of the clip.
>
> Please help.
>
> Kasi
>
> p.s. Does anyone know about Pinnacle's Studio 8 quick
> start? I'm having the same issue there too.

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Old 10-27-2003, 02:31 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm new to movie maker period. Looking for a manual to
read...difficult to find now. BUT, what I want to do is
make the movie video smaller so that I can fit it on to
700mb cd. Its currently 734mb...

I have editing using 1 clip but that didn't work, is there
an easy way to do this?
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Old 10-27-2003, 02:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Hi there,

The file that you want to save, what format is it in.

If it is a DV-AVI file then using Movie Maker 2 you can save it in WMV
(windows Video format) and it will be substantially smaller in size. If it
is already in WMV format, then if you remain with Movie Maker 2 the only
way of making it smaller is to reduce the physical size of the
frames...720x576 down to maybe 320x240. Using other 3rd party tools (DivX
for example) you can stick with the AVI format and significantly reduce the
size of the video whilst maintaining the frame size.

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Old 10-27-2003, 02:46 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Hi Again,

I should also have said, If you have some DVD authoring software, that will
convert your file into the MPEG format.....and also reduce the physical
file size.

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