End-user License for Vista

Posted: 10-13-2006, 10:43 AM
I have just seen the new License terms for the Vista versions on the MS
website and am concerned about new restrictions about using the license on a
new machine. It seems you are only allowed to transfer vista once to a new
machine. I have checked with Microsoft and apparently installing a new
motherboard/ processor is as far as they are concerned a new machine!
This is going to hit those of us who home build our machines and upgrade
regularly very hard. I must admit I am thinking whether the change to Vista
is worthwhile. This is a new restriction which does not appear in the XP
EULA.
Alan


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Terje Alexander Barth
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Re: End-user License for Vista
Posted: 10-13-2006, 11:32 AM


"Alan" <alan.larbalestier@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:eLOgTwq7GHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I have just seen the new License terms for the Vista versions on the MS
> website and am concerned about new restrictions about using the license on a
> new machine. It seems you are only allowed to transfer vista once to a new
> machine. I have checked with Microsoft and apparently installing a new
> motherboard/ processor is as far as they are concerned a new machine!
> This is going to hit those of us who home build our machines and upgrade
> regularly very hard. I must admit I am thinking whether the change to Vista
> is worthwhile. This is a new restriction which does not appear in the XP
> EULA.
> Alan
>
>
With that license I am f...ed... considering I've run through a few
XP Activations due to regular hardware updates...

Hmm.. so if I upgrade my CPU (next thing on the list) RC2 will stop working?
thats awesome.

Wonder if Private Citizens can purchase a VLK version of Vista to avoid the grief.


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Beck
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Re: End-user License for Vista
Posted: 10-13-2006, 11:36 AM

"Alan" <alan.larbalestier@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>I have just seen the new License terms for the Vista versions on the MS
>website and am concerned about new restrictions about using the license on
>a new machine. It seems you are only allowed to transfer vista once to a
>new machine. I have checked with Microsoft and apparently installing a new
>motherboard/ processor is as far as they are concerned a new machine!
> This is going to hit those of us who home build our machines and upgrade
> regularly very hard. I must admit I am thinking whether the change to
> Vista is worthwhile. This is a new restriction which does not appear in
> the XP EULA.
The new motherboard restriction has always been in place with XP oem. Not
sure about retail.
I think its a very harsh restriction as motherboards can and do fail and its
unfair for the customer to have to buy a new version. I wonder if the EU
commission knows about this ;-)

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Re: End-user License for Vista
Posted: 10-13-2006, 11:37 AM

"Alan" <alan.larbalestier@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>I have just seen the new License terms for the Vista versions on the MS
>website and am concerned about new restrictions about using the license on
>a new machine. It seems you are only allowed to transfer vista once to a
>new machine. I have checked with Microsoft and apparently installing a new
>motherboard/ processor is as far as they are concerned a new machine!
> This is going to hit those of us who home build our machines and upgrade
> regularly very hard. I must admit I am thinking whether the change to
> Vista is worthwhile. This is a new restriction which does not appear in
> the XP
Have you got a link to the EULA please?

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Re: End-user License for Vista
Posted: 10-13-2006, 11:46 AM
Quite frankly, the new EULA stinks.

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"Alan" <alan.larbalestier@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>I have just seen the new License terms for the Vista versions on the MS
>website and am concerned about new restrictions about using the license on
>a new machine. It seems you are only allowed to transfer vista once to a
>new machine. I have checked with Microsoft and apparently installing a new
>motherboard/ processor is as far as they are concerned a new machine!
> This is going to hit those of us who home build our machines and upgrade
> regularly very hard. I must admit I am thinking whether the change to
> Vista is worthwhile. This is a new restriction which does not appear in
> the XP EULA.
> Alan
>
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Re: End-user License for Vista
Posted: 10-13-2006, 11:50 AM
Beck wrote:
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> "Alan" <alan.larbalestier@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:eLOgTwq7GHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I have just seen the new License terms for the Vista versions on the
>> MS website and am concerned about new restrictions about using the
>> license on a new machine. It seems you are only allowed to transfer
>> vista once to a new machine. I have checked with Microsoft and
>> apparently installing a new motherboard/ processor is as far as they
>> are concerned a new machine!
>> This is going to hit those of us who home build our machines and
>> upgrade regularly very hard. I must admit I am thinking whether the
>> change to Vista is worthwhile. This is a new restriction which does
>> not appear in the XP EULA.
>
> The new motherboard restriction has always been in place with XP oem.
False. I've changed three on one computer and one on this computer, both
running generic OEMs.
> Not sure about retail.
> I think its a very harsh restriction as motherboards can and do fail and
> its unfair for the customer to have to buy a new version. I wonder if
> the EU commission knows about this ;-)
I hope so.

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Re: End-user License for Vista
Posted: 10-13-2006, 12:02 PM

"Alias~-" <notever@aolhell.net> wrote in message
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> Beck wrote:
>>
>> "Alan" <alan.larbalestier@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:eLOgTwq7GHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> I have just seen the new License terms for the Vista versions on the MS
>>> website and am concerned about new restrictions about using the license
>>> on a new machine. It seems you are only allowed to transfer vista once
>>> to a new machine. I have checked with Microsoft and apparently
>>> installing a new motherboard/ processor is as far as they are concerned
>>> a new machine!
>>> This is going to hit those of us who home build our machines and upgrade
>>> regularly very hard. I must admit I am thinking whether the change to
>>> Vista is worthwhile. This is a new restriction which does not appear in
>>> the XP EULA.
>>
>> The new motherboard restriction has always been in place with XP oem.
>
> False. I've changed three on one computer and one on this computer, both
> running generic OEMs.
Its in the XP EULA. Whether people choose to go with it is another matter.

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Posted: 10-13-2006, 12:08 PM
Beck wrote:
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> "Alias~-" <notever@aolhell.net> wrote in message
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>> Beck wrote:
>>>
>>> "Alan" <alan.larbalestier@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eLOgTwq7GHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> I have just seen the new License terms for the Vista versions on the
>>>> MS website and am concerned about new restrictions about using the
>>>> license on a new machine. It seems you are only allowed to transfer
>>>> vista once to a new machine. I have checked with Microsoft and
>>>> apparently installing a new motherboard/ processor is as far as they
>>>> are concerned a new machine!
>>>> This is going to hit those of us who home build our machines and
>>>> upgrade regularly very hard. I must admit I am thinking whether the
>>>> change to Vista is worthwhile. This is a new restriction which does
>>>> not appear in the XP EULA.
>>>
>>> The new motherboard restriction has always been in place with XP oem.
>>
>> False. I've changed three on one computer and one on this computer,
>> both running generic OEMs.
>
> Its in the XP EULA. Whether people choose to go with it is another matter.
It's not in my EULAs, both for XP Pro English and XP Home Spanish. Have
you read the EULA? Mine do not even mention the word "motherboard", much
less speak of any restrictions.

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Re: End-user License for Vista
Posted: 10-13-2006, 12:31 PM
Vista's License restrictions should be not pursuant to Italian and UE Laws,
since the rights granted to software users should be limited by manufacturer
to only ONE computer, but independently from its internal components.

Moreover, the mentioned Laws grant the user's right to make a security copy
of any software.

I'm convinced Microsoft must find a corrective to this provision to avoid
the risk of contract infringment objections by users that home-build their
own PC (there are MANY of them) and have the right to use the paid software
on it.

Heywood.


"Beck" wrote:
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> "Alan" <alan.larbalestier@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:eLOgTwq7GHA.3620@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >I have just seen the new License terms for the Vista versions on the MS
> >website and am concerned about new restrictions about using the license on
> >a new machine. It seems you are only allowed to transfer vista once to a
> >new machine. I have checked with Microsoft and apparently installing a new
> >motherboard/ processor is as far as they are concerned a new machine!
> > This is going to hit those of us who home build our machines and upgrade
> > regularly very hard. I must admit I am thinking whether the change to
> > Vista is worthwhile. This is a new restriction which does not appear in
> > the XP EULA.
>
> The new motherboard restriction has always been in place with XP oem. Not
> sure about retail.
> I think its a very harsh restriction as motherboards can and do fail and its
> unfair for the customer to have to buy a new version. I wonder if the EU
> commission knows about this ;-)
>
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Re: End-user License for Vista
Posted: 10-13-2006, 12:32 PM

"Alias~-" <notever@aolhell.net> wrote in message
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> It's not in my EULAs, both for XP Pro English and XP Home Spanish. Have
> you read the EULA? Mine do not even mention the word "motherboard", much
> less speak of any restrictions.

No you are right, I was having a non-blonde moment.
Weirdest thing is, I was having the same arguement months ago with someone
in the XP group and I stated then it was not in the EULA so I am not sure
what my brain was doing, sorry :-)

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