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Windows 7 networking is too smart for its own good.

Abomb — Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:37:04 GMT

ignore, vmware workstation 1.5 tools where the problem.
reverted to snapshot. will just run it without the tools.

Folder won't open on laptop

Gordon — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:58:28 GMT

desgnr wrote:

Quote:

> I am accessing my Desktop with Vista Home Premium Sp1
> From my laptop with Windows XP home SP3

And can you access any of the other folders?

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Vista box cannot access XP shares

The_Arm — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:24:02 GMT

Hello everyone. I have an XP machine with a few shared folders on it and a
Vista machine that won't access the share on it anymore. Here is what
happened: I went to add a third Raid card to my XP machine and in doing so, I
had to move PCI cards around. Two of those cards where network cards. BUT,
the network card I have WINS enabled on is an onboard card. Once I got my
PCI cards installed the way I wanted, XP wouldn't boot. It gave me a blue
screen. I imagine it's because XP thought, since I moved cards around so
much, XP was thinking I moved the hard drive to a new PC. So I restored XP
from a known good image I have and I got it to boot. It reinstalled the
network cards upon boot (Since all PCI cards but the onboard card where in a
different slot). At this point I was happy but my Vista machine could not
access my XP shares. Vista is prompting me for a user name and password.
Since I work on PC's all day every day for work, I didn't want to waste time
on this so I just reinstalled XP fresh. I thought that would do the trick
but Vista still prompts me for a user name and password.

So that is where I stand now. The same user is logged onto the XP box and
the Vista box with the same password. I can't ping the XP machine name from
Vista. The firewall is off on both Vista and XP. The workgroups are the
same on both machines. I tried to delete my Vista user name on Vista >
deleted my user folder on Vista under users > and logged back in to Vista.
Still getting prompted for a user name and password. I tried a re-boot of
both machines. I reset my Linksys router to factory defaults and I power
cycled my switch. I tried to add the adapter's IP that is using WINS to the
WINS's section on XP and Vista. I tried turning WINS on on all three network
cars on my XP box. I CAN get to my XP shares on an XP work laptop that I
have (After I tured off the windows firewall on the XP box even though file
and print sharing was allowed in the firewall).

Any help is appericated.

Accessing XP shares from Vista

The_Arm — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:23:01 GMT

Windows Meeting space - conect issues

Tim_Ver — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 08:40:01 GMT

AFAIK Windows Meeting Space is not available in XP and is not compatible with
NetMeeting.

Some other ideas none of which I have used by the way...

http://www.adobe.com/acom/connectnow/
http://www.webex.com/
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/li...g/default.aspx
http://www.dimdim.com/opensource/dim...y_edition.html
https://www1.gotomeeting.com/?Portal...otomeeting.com

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"Tim_Ver" wrote:

Quote:

>
>
> I have Vista 64 Ultimate and want to have someone running Windows XP Pro
> SP3 to connect to my meeting show they can share their desktop and I can
> control it from my PC.
>
> I tried by setting up a meeting and then having them join but the used net
> meeting and it asked for a code and a location which I did not have.
>
>
> What is the best way to do this so they can share their XP desktop for me to
> control from my Vista desktop?
>
> Thanks

Vista machine on LAN - Round 2

Grand_Poobah — Tue, 20 Jan 2009 02:16:12 GMT

I forgot to mention also the when this happens, any IPCONFIG
configuration command (such as /renew) will tell me (approximately, as I
didn't write it down) "this command cannot be executed until the adapter
is connected to a network". It will, however, tell me that my static IP
address and everything else is correct. Clearly the computer thinks the
plug has been pulled BUT the fact remains that I can open a browser and
surf the Internet at will. Very strange.

GP

config internet connection used while VPN'd in

John A Grandy — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:18:47 GMT

Yes, this is default settings. You may want to uncheck Use Gateway on remote
network. This search result may help.

VPN IssuesVista VPN disappear � VPN disconnects when transferring files ....
A: Uncheck " Use Gateway on remote network" on the VPN client. ...
www.chicagotech.net/vpn.htm

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Quote:

> Vista Ultimate SP1
>
> How to config VPN connection so that internet requests are made through
> local internet connection , rather than through \VPN internet connection ?
>
> It seems that by default all of my internet requests are being forwarded
> to the VPN machine ...
>

The specified Network Provider name is invalid

Trax1963 — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 16:59:00 GMT

I cannot connect to my other computer! Everytime i click on the other
computer i get this message 'specified Network Provider name is invalid'.
Has anyone an idea how to fix this problem? I get the same message on the
other computers.

Yes Vista Home Prem.
They were able to see each other at first.
I was able to share files and drives now i can't and i don't know what i did
to change that. It's been several weeks since i could share last.

Media sharing between Vista pc's

Driesje — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:23:00 GMT

I have a couple of Vista pc's throughout the house. I have to do the
networking with wifi and there are a lot of access points in the area, so a
lot of fluctuations.
I share media (video, photo) from one machine and watch from other Vista
Media center Pc’s in the house. MC connects to a shared folder.
I’m trying to find out how to adjust the caching for especially video
playback. TweakMC has a setting for extenders. But what I’m looking for is PC
– PC
Thanks!

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3 Vista Computers, 1 with error message 0x80070005

Don — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 22:41:30 GMT

Ignore last message, see updated question below.
"Don Begezda" wrote in message
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Quote:

>
> "Malke" wrote in message
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Quote:

>> Don Begezda wrote:
>>

Quote:

>>> How do I manage this underlying account vs. renamed account? In other
>>> words how do I know which account might have an underlying account? How
>>> do
>>> I find
>>> this on the computers? BTW, this is all very confusing. Don

>>
>> Assuming your Windows install is on C:, look in C:\Users and you'll see
>> all
>> the user accounts on the system. These will show the true names. But I
>> would think that you would remember if you did this; i.e., went to
>> Control
>> Panel>User Accounts and changed a name instead of creating a new account.
>> I
>> only mentioned it to be thorough.
>>

I thought I did the same thing on each of the three computers, all done
through Control Panel, but I have three different results.

On computer one I have 4 C:\Users: Default, Don, Don_2, and Public.
In Control panel there are three users Don, Guest, and ComputerAdmin
On computer two I have 3 C:\Users: Don, Don_2, and Public.
In Control Panel I have three Users, Don, Guest, and ComputerAdmin
On computer three I have 3 C:\Users: Don, Svetlana, and Public. (I
honestly don't remember creating the User Svetlana)
In Control Panel I have three Users Don, Guest, and ComputerAdmin.

How do I coordinate the computer Users so they are all the same? Do I do it
through Control Panel, or via C:\Users?
How do I know which are the true Administrator accounts? Do I delete all
Users and start from scratch? Sorry I don't know where to start.
Thanks for the help,
Don

usb hard drive

marty — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:28:00 GMT

Hi
Almost all NAS Drives are not formatted with standard Windows format (that
is because they are Not using Windows firmware as their mini OS).a
You are better off logging to Seagate and find their formatting info and may
be a utility to do the formatting too.
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

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>
> -
>
> hi , i have a seagate usb drive that that has been connected to abuffalo
> network drive ,recently i have been having problems connecting to the usb
> drive through the nas connection so i contacted buffalo support and they
> suggested reformating in ext3 this has not worked as i cannot connect at
> all
> now so i want to format back to xfs as it was before before i do this i
> want
> to copy the files stored on it to my laptop so i don't lose any info
> unfortunatley i cannot see the drive when it is connected via usb to my
> laptop,is this because of the present format?does it need to be in ntfs
> for
> windows to read it ?i am using vista h/p
> --
> martyb
>
>

Says "Local Only" but seems to work fine (FiOS related?)

Colin — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:13:18 GMT

I have seen several complaints on this subject. It also happens to me. Seems
to be only cosmetic, actual internet access appears to work just fine
(currently do not have globe on the lower right icon). It is almost 'normal'
response on my machine when coming out of sleep.

Vista Home premium, SP1, all patches automatic.
FIOS (but don't think that has anything to do with problem)
NETGEAR WGT624v3 wireless 4-port router

I have tried a couple of things. For instance making my IP address fixed so
that there is no renewal of IP after the wakeup. Nothing I tried had any
effect.

(physically unplugging then plugging the cable back in does get the globe
back for me, but not practical for the way my wiring is)

I have just come to accept the way it works.

Michael

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Quote:

> Not multi-homed. Single gateway, NIC, and subnet - the router has a very
> common 192.168.1.1 IP#.
>
> I looked at those web pages, but they seem to actually not work. My
> problem may just be a bug in the Vista's ability to tell if it has a
> connection, as (at least as far as I can tell), I always do have Internet
> access, even though it says "Local only." My concern, especially because
> this comes and goes, is that this is a symptom of some larger problem.
>
> Is anyone else running FiOS and having similar problems? I am on my second
> router from Verizon, but that didn't seem to make any difference. I do
> have the same problem on multiple Vista computers on my network.
>
> Thanks,
> Colin
>
>
> "Robert L. (MS-MVP)" wrote in message
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Quote:

>> Is this multihomed computer? Posting the result of ipconfig /all here may
>> help. Or check this link:
>> Vista Local Only and Limited or Not Connectivity
>> Vista Local Only and Limited or No Connectivity. Limited
>> connectivity with Vista notebook � Vista Limited connectivity � Vista:
>> Local only - no Internet ...
>> www.chicagotech.net/vista/vistalocalonly.htm
>>
>>
>> --
>> Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
>> Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on
>> http://www.ChicagoTech.net
>> How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on
>> http://www.HowToNetworking.com
>> "Colin" wrote in message
>> news:56E2CBFF-7431-4A95-9A5D-89F8FE651C03@microsoft.com...

Quote:

>>> If I hover the mouse over the networking icon in the system tray on
>>> Vista computers on my FiOS network, it sometimes says "Local Only."
>>> Networking and Sharing Center shows a red X between the router and the
>>> Internet. Restarting usually shows them as properly connected to the
>>> Internet. Eventually, though (usually about 30 minutes to hours later),
>>> it will lose that and revert to Local Only.
>>>
>>> Diangnose and Repair doesn't change anything. In fact, Windows usually
>>> reports back, "Windows did not find any problems with your Internet
>>> connection." Sometimes it says that TCP settings are incompatible. I let
>>> it change them, but the Local Only problem is still there and a
>>> subsequent Diagnose and Repair then always gives the same "Windows did
>>> not find any problems..." report.
>>>
>>> Some of those machines are laptops. I never have this problem when I
>>> bring those laptops to other networks (office wired or Wi-Fi, airport
>>> Wi-Fi, etc.). This seems to be limited to my home FiOS network.
>>>
>>> Note that as far as I can tell from using the system, it does have
>>> Internet access. Web browsing, e-mail, GoToMyPC, VPN, all seem to work
>>> fine. My main concern is that this "Local Only" report is a symptom of
>>> something more serious. If it's just a known bug in the Vista system to
>>> determine if it has Internet access, I guess I could ignore it.
>>>
>>> Is this a universal problem with FiOS? I see a lot of people seem to
>>> have issues with the Actiontec router.
>>>
>>> Should I care, given that I do seem to have Internet access (is this a
>>> symptom of something more serious, or just a bug in Vista's network
>>> analysis)?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any insight or guidance,
>>> Colin

Network Map vs Available on the Network

Colin — Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:48:29 GMT

All connected Vista computers always appear properly on my Network Map, but
they seem to randomly appear or not in the Network view. Those that don't
appear, are not accessible. If I manually type the computer name in an
Explorer address bar or from the Run menu, it fails (or it has shares that
are availale offline, it opens the Offline versions of the shares from that
computer).

If I restart the seeking computer, it almost always properly finds the
missing computer and talks correctly to it. But this is a major hassle and
clearly should not be needed.

This happens most often when I take a laptop off the network and use it on
other networks (Wi-Fi at airports, etc.) or let a computer hibernate or
standby. In either case, it's when that removed computer comes back to the
network that it can't see others. Note that for Hibernate, it's fully
powering down, but restoring from Hibernate often causes the problem. Again,
performing a Restart (even though that is not a full power down), generally
fixes everything.

Since the system appears propery (correct IP #, etc.) in the Network Map,
why might it not be accessible on the network?

I should note that I had similar problems in XP when laptops would leave and
return to the network. The difference for me is that in Vista, now I can see
them on the Network map, so I hope this gives an improved diagnostic to
solve this problem once and for all... or is this just an inherent problem
with Windows networking (never have this issue with Linux systems)?

Thanks,
Colin

how to add someone from the network to my permissions

brnfarrell — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 22:40:15 GMT

Hi
Maybe this can Help.
Vista File and Printer Sharing-
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
Windows XP File Sharing -
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;304040
Printer Sharing XP -
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...utt_july2.mspx
Windows Native Firewall setting for Sharing XP -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/875357
Windows XP patch for Sharing with Vista -
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/922120
Jack (MVP-Networking).

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Quote:

>
> my friend came over with a laptop with vista on it, i have vista
> myself. he was unable to access anything i put up the be shared do to
> "permissions". i see hoe to add people to my permissions but it will
> only let me add other users on the pc, and not on the network. any
> sugestions?
>
>
> --
> brnfarrell

HD connected to Router is read only. Can not change

Neal — Sat, 17 Jan 2009 21:55:00 GMT

Hi
The permission in such case has to do with the Network Storage (NAS) and Not
with Windows.
Not every external USB HD is a Network Drive. I assume that what you call
external USB HD is a Network Drive, and the Router has a general USB Server
(Most of the Routers USB is only for printers).
Check with Belkin to find out if the HD is compatible with the USB Server,
and how to make it compatible with Windows sharing. Almost all of the NAS'
are not based on Windows firmware and need a special setting to share with
Windows..
Otherwise give more detailed about the hardware and how it is connected.
Jack (MS, MVP-Networking)

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>I have a problem that I just can not figure out. Everything I tried so far
>is just not working. I have a Belkin F5D8235-4 N+ Wireless Router
>connected to external USB HD. I am using my laptop connected via wireless.
>I have the HD mapped to my computer as Z: drive. After I rebooted my
>router my hard drive has only read only permissions. I have gone into
>properties and have tried to change the settings on the drive. I have had
>no luck at all.
>
> Can anyone please help me with this issue. I just want to have read and
> write permissions to the networked drive.
>
> Thanks,