FED UP!!!

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to wipe out Vista and install XP on my
HP laptop? I'm FED UP with Vista's refusal to network properly. Every
fricken 5 hours or so, without fail, it will refuse to load webpages or let
me send email, despite the fact I am still clearly connected to both the
internet and my home network (Linksys router, Verizon DSL). If I happen to
be streaming music or in a chat room those things still continue just fine,
but if I try to send email or load a webpage it won't,. This is infuriating
because I use this laptop in my work-which requires me to have 8 websites
open and be logged into them. When this crap happens the ONLY thing that
fixes it is rebooting. ARGH!!! I am so angry!! This has been going on for
months. It's got to be this piece of garbage called Vista. When it happens
the DSL connection is still there. My network reads connected, locally and
internet. I can see the other computer on the network and use the printer I
have networked to this one. Network Diagnostics insists nothing is wrong. I
have tried EVERYTHING!! Reseting the DSL modem, the router, the network
adapter, you name it. Tweaked the lease settings in the router. NOTHING
CHANGES. Linksys says the problem is Microsoft. Verizon says the problem is
Microsoft. HP says the problem is Microsoft. So why won't Microsoft fix the
damn problem?? It's going on 6 months now and I am about to through this
laptop in the garbage and go buy one with XP!

Am I the only one having to put up with garbage like this?

Sue

"Sue" <susan_ny@verizon.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:96213123-3DB4-48E7-9626-AD0F975363A4@microsoft.com...

> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to wipe out Vista and install XP on my
> HP laptop? I'm FED UP with Vista's refusal to network properly. Every
> fricken 5 hours or so, without fail, it will refuse to load webpages or
> let me send email, despite the fact I am still clearly connected to both
> the internet and my home network (Linksys router, Verizon DSL). If I
> happen to be streaming music or in a chat room those things still continue
> just fine, but if I try to send email or load a webpage it won't,. This is
> infuriating because I use this laptop in my work-which requires me to have
> 8 websites open and be logged into them. When this crap happens the ONLY
> thing that fixes it is rebooting. ARGH!!! I am so angry!! This has been
> going on for months. It's got to be this piece of garbage called Vista.
> When it happens the DSL connection is still there. My network reads
> connected, locally and internet. I can see the other computer on the
> network and use the printer I have networked to this one. Network
> Diagnostics insists nothing is wrong. I have tried EVERYTHING!! Reseting
> the DSL modem, the router, the network adapter, you name it. Tweaked the
> lease settings in the router. NOTHING CHANGES. Linksys says the problem
> is Microsoft. Verizon says the problem is Microsoft. HP says the problem
> is Microsoft. So why won't Microsoft fix the damn problem?? It's going on
> 6 months now and I am about to through this laptop in the garbage and go
> buy one with XP!
>
> Am I the only one having to put up with garbage like this?
>
> Sue

If this was an upgrade from XP to Vista, you should be able to revert back.
If XP was never on this machine, you should verify if all the drivers are
available for it. It's taken a while for me to get my Vista desktop to
settle down and be stable but it's great now. Sorry you feel you want go
back. No pain, no gain.

--
BobF.

have you tried updating the drivers for your hardware.

go back to hp and check for newer drivers.



mikeyhsd@sprintpcs.com



"Sue" <susan_ny@verizon.nospam.net> wrote in message news:96213123-3DB4-48E7-9626-AD0F975363A4@microsoft.com...
Can anyone tell me if it's possible to wipe out Vista and install XP on my
HP laptop? I'm FED UP with Vista's refusal to network properly. Every
fricken 5 hours or so, without fail, it will refuse to load webpages or let
me send email, despite the fact I am still clearly connected to both the
internet and my home network (Linksys router, Verizon DSL). If I happen to
be streaming music or in a chat room those things still continue just fine,
but if I try to send email or load a webpage it won't,. This is infuriating
because I use this laptop in my work-which requires me to have 8 websites
open and be logged into them. When this crap happens the ONLY thing that
fixes it is rebooting. ARGH!!! I am so angry!! This has been going on for
months. It's got to be this piece of garbage called Vista. When it happens
the DSL connection is still there. My network reads connected, locally and
internet. I can see the other computer on the network and use the printer I
have networked to this one. Network Diagnostics insists nothing is wrong. I
have tried EVERYTHING!! Reseting the DSL modem, the router, the network
adapter, you name it. Tweaked the lease settings in the router. NOTHING
CHANGES. Linksys says the problem is Microsoft. Verizon says the problem is
Microsoft. HP says the problem is Microsoft. So why won't Microsoft fix the
damn problem?? It's going on 6 months now and I am about to through this
laptop in the garbage and go buy one with XP!

Am I the only one having to put up with garbage like this?

Sue

"Bob F." <bob@NOSPAN.com> wrote in message
news:C22B30E3-F97F-49C9-9182-E036E34E3624@microsoft.com...

> If this was an upgrade from XP to Vista, you should be able to revert
> back. If XP was never on this machine, you should verify if all the
> drivers are available for it. It's taken a while for me to get my Vista
> desktop to settle down and be stable but it's great now. Sorry you feel
> you want go back. No pain, no gain.
>
> --
> BobF.

I'd stay but there seems to be absolutely no way to fix the issue I
described!

Sue

Sue wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to wipe out Vista and install XP on my
> HP laptop? I'm FED UP with Vista's refusal to network properly. Every
> fricken 5 hours or so, without fail, it will refuse to load webpages or
> let me send email, despite the fact I am still clearly connected to both
> the internet and my home network (Linksys router, Verizon DSL). If I
> happen to be streaming music or in a chat room those things still continue
> just fine, but if I try to send email or load a webpage it won't,. This is
> infuriating because I use this laptop in my work-which requires me to have
> 8 websites open and be logged into them. When this crap happens the ONLY
> thing that fixes it is rebooting. ARGH!!! I am so angry!! This has been
> going on for months. It's got to be this piece of garbage called Vista.
> When it happens the DSL connection is still there. My network reads
> connected, locally and internet. I can see the other computer on the
> network and use the printer I have networked to this one. Network
> Diagnostics insists nothing is wrong. I have tried EVERYTHING!! Reseting
> the DSL modem, the router, the network adapter, you name it. Tweaked the
> lease settings in the router. NOTHING
> CHANGES. Linksys says the problem is Microsoft. Verizon says the problem
> is Microsoft. HP says the problem is Microsoft. So why won't Microsoft fix
> the damn problem?? It's going on 6 months now and I am about to through
> this laptop in the garbage and go buy one with XP!

General information about replacing Vista with XP:

On an OEM (HP, Sony, etc.) computer:

1. Go to the OEM's website and look for XP drivers for your specific model
computer. If there are no XP drivers, then you can't install XP. End of
story. If there are drivers, download them and store on a CD-R or USB
thumbdrive; you'll need them after you install XP.

2. Check with the OEM - either from their tech support website or by calling
them - to see if you will void your warranty if you do this. If you will
void the warranty, you make the decision.

3. If the OEM does support XP on the machine, call them and see if you can
have downgrade rights and have them send you an XP restore disk. This will
be far the easiest and best way of getting XP on the machine.

4. If XP is supported on the machine but the OEM doesn't have an XP restore
disk for you, understand that you'll need to purchase a retail copy of XP
from your favorite online or brick/mortar store.

5. Also understand that you will need to do a clean install of XP so if you
have any data you want, back it up first.

6. If none of the above is applicable to you because you can't run XP on
that machine (see Item #1 above), return the computer and purchase one
running XP instead.

http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html - Clean Install How-To
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...alling_Windows - What
you will need on-hand

Malke
--
MS-MVP
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
Don't Panic!

Some things to try:

- if you have both ethernet and WiFi network connections in the laptop
disable the one you aren't using (not uninstall, just disable from its icon
in network connections)

- check the DHCP settings in your router .. if the lease time happens to be
around that 5 hour mark, extend it. If practical for your operating
conditions set a fixed IP in the PC, or set DHCP in the router to use a
static IP for that particular PC.

- look in your events logs for entries referring to forced browser
elections. I have one XP PC on my LAN, wirelessly connected, that always
tries to set itself as the master browser. It periodically forces a browser
election on the LAN which used to cause similar symptoms on other connected
PCs to what you described happening on yours. It happened particularly on a
second PC that was also connected using WiFi. I haven't seen the connection
problems since switching over to an ethernet connection. This was happening
with XP running on all PCs. Running Vista HP on the formerly affected
machine now and haven't had any connection issues, but I haven't been using
WiFi on it either.

- monitor the IP your ISP is assigning you to see if it has been changed
when you start experiencing the problem. Some ISPs change the customer's
dynamic IP address periodically while the customer is logged in, some just
assign a new random IP whenever the customer first logs in.

- parking in chat rooms for extended periods of time leaves you open to DOS
attacks from others monitoring the room/irc channel. Probably not the cause
of your particular problem but it's a consideration.



"Sue" <susan_ny@verizon.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:96213123-3DB4-48E7-9626-AD0F975363A4@microsoft.com...

> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to wipe out Vista and install XP on my
> HP laptop? I'm FED UP with Vista's refusal to network properly. Every
> fricken 5 hours or so, without fail, it will refuse to load webpages or
> let me send email, despite the fact I am still clearly connected to both
> the internet and my home network (Linksys router, Verizon DSL). If I
> happen to be streaming music or in a chat room those things still continue
> just fine, but if I try to send email or load a webpage it won't,. This is
> infuriating because I use this laptop in my work-which requires me to have
> 8 websites open and be logged into them. When this crap happens the ONLY
> thing that fixes it is rebooting. ARGH!!! I am so angry!! This has been
> going on for months. It's got to be this piece of garbage called Vista.
> When it happens the DSL connection is still there. My network reads
> connected, locally and internet. I can see the other computer on the
> network and use the printer I have networked to this one. Network
> Diagnostics insists nothing is wrong. I have tried EVERYTHING!! Reseting
> the DSL modem, the router, the network adapter, you name it. Tweaked the
> lease settings in the router. NOTHING CHANGES. Linksys says the problem
> is Microsoft. Verizon says the problem is Microsoft. HP says the problem
> is Microsoft. So why won't Microsoft fix the damn problem?? It's going on
> 6 months now and I am about to through this laptop in the garbage and go
> buy one with XP!
>
> Am I the only one having to put up with garbage like this?
>
> Sue