Games on Vista 64 vs 32? E.g. F.E.A.R., Doom3, Halo

Very few games will work in 32-bit but not in 64-bit, assuming you have all
the neccessary drivers (video, audio, etc.). All modern games are 32-bit
native, and Windows x64 runs 32-bit applications just fine.

I did get very low framerates on DirectX9-intensive games until I set the
Compatibility Mode to Windows XP: SP2. All my games seem to work fine now.

Vista RC1 (5600) x64
ATI Radeon Xpress 200M


"Glenn Edler" <glennedler@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> I've tried Battlefield2 on both, no different, low fps on both but I
> think it is because I got nVidia...
>
>
> "boe" <boe_d@hspamnototmail.com> wrote in message
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>>I wonder if anyone here could tell me if you tested games such as
>>F.E.A.R., Doom3, Half Life 2, HALO on BOTH the 32 Bit and the 64 bit
>>version of Vista?
>>
>> Do they play on both? Any downside to either?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>

>

I'm just curious have you tried running a program like 3dMark06 or 05 in the
2 different modes ?

I ran 3dmark05 and scored a 2420 under normal mode and a 2563 under XP
compatible mode. I've got all the visual extras and stuff turned off, so
needless to say, I'm a little surprise there is a 140 point difference.

I thought Vista was suppose to be Gamer friendly, seems like you have to
give up a little performance to run it.


"cbhacking" <chacking@cs.washington.edu> wrote in message
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> Very few games will work in 32-bit but not in 64-bit, assuming you have
> all the neccessary drivers (video, audio, etc.). All modern games are
> 32-bit native, and Windows x64 runs 32-bit applications just fine.
>
> I did get very low framerates on DirectX9-intensive games until I set the
> Compatibility Mode to Windows XP: SP2. All my games seem to work fine now.
>
> Vista RC1 (5600) x64
> ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
>
>
> "Glenn Edler" <glennedler@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7F4EC7F8-D8FD-4315-BD6E-A6E905877B21@microsoft.com...

>> I've tried Battlefield2 on both, no different, low fps on both but I
>> think it is because I got nVidia...
>>
>>
>> "boe" <boe_d@hspamnototmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23QRysk90GHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>>I wonder if anyone here could tell me if you tested games such as
>>>F.E.A.R., Doom3, Half Life 2, HALO on BOTH the 32 Bit and the 64 bit
>>>version of Vista?
>>>
>>> Do they play on both? Any downside to either?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>

>>

>

No, the problem is that Vista, by default, uses DirectX 10. Vista can also
run legacy DX9 programs, but if you run a DX9 game in 'Vista mode' it will
(I'm uessing) try to use DX10 first, then DX9 second. If you run the program
in 'XP mode' it won't even look for DX10, so DX9 performance should be
better.

If you have a DX10 compatible video card (WDDM driver, basically if you can
enable glass, etc.) it will assume DX10 even if not using it for the desktop
(Basic or Classic modes).

DirectX 10 should be amazing when it comes out; the reports I've heard
suggest 30%-70% performance increase over DX9. If true, that should make for
unbeliveable gaming. A few games are already being ported to Vista and
natively using DX10, and I imagine at least a few new games will have it as
an option or even require it within a year of Vista's release. I,
personally, am looking forward to this. In the meanwhile, setting
compatibility mode for DX9 games isn't too much of a hassle.

* The above is based on second-hand information, rumor websites, and
speculation. Anybody with corrections or additinal information please reply.


"Dale "Mad_Murdock" White" <Mad_Murdock@noinsightbb.com> wrote in message
news:c4GdnXvE8JjCJ5HYnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@insightbb.co m...

> I'm just curious have you tried running a program like 3dMark06 or 05 in
> the 2 different modes ?
>
> I ran 3dmark05 and scored a 2420 under normal mode and a 2563 under XP
> compatible mode. I've got all the visual extras and stuff turned off, so
> needless to say, I'm a little surprise there is a 140 point difference.
>
> I thought Vista was suppose to be Gamer friendly, seems like you have to
> give up a little performance to run it.
>
>
> "cbhacking" <chacking@cs.washington.edu> wrote in message
> news:5D5ADC9A-EA29-4901-B325-78853AFE6249@microsoft.com...

>> Very few games will work in 32-bit but not in 64-bit, assuming you have
>> all the neccessary drivers (video, audio, etc.). All modern games are
>> 32-bit native, and Windows x64 runs 32-bit applications just fine.
>>
>> I did get very low framerates on DirectX9-intensive games until I set the
>> Compatibility Mode to Windows XP: SP2. All my games seem to work fine
>> now.
>>
>> Vista RC1 (5600) x64
>> ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
>>
>>
>> "Glenn Edler" <glennedler@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:7F4EC7F8-D8FD-4315-BD6E-A6E905877B21@microsoft.com...

>>> I've tried Battlefield2 on both, no different, low fps on both but I
>>> think it is because I got nVidia...
>>>
>>>
>>> "boe" <boe_d@hspamnototmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:%23QRysk90GHA.3464@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>I wonder if anyone here could tell me if you tested games such as
>>>>F.E.A.R., Doom3, Half Life 2, HALO on BOTH the 32 Bit and the 64 bit
>>>>version of Vista?
>>>>
>>>> Do they play on both? Any downside to either?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>

>
>

Just to the "flight sims" folks, specially those on IL2 Forgotten Battles,
it works great wilh antialiasing on, maximum settings for OpenGL, Nvidia
latest drivers (96.33 for Vista RC1). My setup Pentium CoreDuo 930, 2 GB
SDRAM DDR2, GeForce 7800 GT. BTW, as that game is optimized to OpenGL, it
suffers on Vista's DirectX 9 like it does not on XP.

Edric

"boe" <boe_d@hspamnototmail.com> wrote in message
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>I wonder if anyone here could tell me if you tested games such as F.E.A.R.,
>Doom3, Half Life 2, HALO on BOTH the 32 Bit and the 64 bit version of
>Vista?
>
> Do they play on both? Any downside to either?
>
> Thanks
>
>