[gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

Posted: 01-03-2009, 03:50 AM

Jeroen Roovers

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Hi folks,

in light of some recent discussions where overlay maintainers found
that bug reports had been assigned "incorrectly" and thought it was apt
to inform the miscellaneous bug wranglers of the correct assignees, I
thought it would be a good idea to introduce a new list, akin to
metadata.xml and herds.xml, to resolve this issue once and for all. As
with herds and metadata, this overlays.xml should list a repository's
name, HOMEPAGE and the e-mail address(es) of its maintainers.

In the absence of such information, a bug wrangler may assign the bug
report to someone who has contributed to the overlay in question, or to
anyone who might reasonably know whom to properly assign the bug report
to.

In case assignment goes awry, and when the assignee is part of the team
of proper assignees, then the team or assignee should make sure
overlays.xml is updated to reflect the current maintainance status and
should add the remainder of the assignees themselves. Nothing else
needs to be done in this case - the next time a different bug wrangler
might be handling a bug report about that overlay, so CC'ing or pinging
(on IRC) doesn't make sense - updating overlays.xml would. If the
assignee is not part of the maintainer team of the overlay in question,
then the bug may be bounced back to bug-wranglers@g.o.

Please discuss.

Kind regards,
jer

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Jeroen Roovers

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[gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

Posted: 01-03-2009, 03:50 AM

Jeremy Olexa

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

Posted: 01-03-2009, 05:00 AM

Jeroen Roovers wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
>
> in light of some recent discussions where overlay maintainers found
> that bug reports had been assigned "incorrectly" and thought it was apt
> to inform the miscellaneous bug wranglers of the correct assignees, I
> thought it would be a good idea to introduce a new list, akin to
> metadata.xml and herds.xml, to resolve this issue once and for all. As
> with herds and metadata, this overlays.xml should list a repository's
> name, HOMEPAGE and the e-mail address(es) of its maintainers.
>
> In the absence of such information, a bug wrangler may assign the bug
> report to someone who has contributed to the overlay in question, or to
> anyone who might reasonably know whom to properly assign the bug report
> to.
>
> In case assignment goes awry, and when the assignee is part of the team
> of proper assignees, then the team or assignee should make sure
> overlays.xml is updated to reflect the current maintainance status and
> should add the remainder of the assignees themselves. Nothing else
> needs to be done in this case - the next time a different bug wrangler
> might be handling a bug report about that overlay, so CC'ing or pinging
> (on IRC) doesn't make sense - updating overlays.xml would. If the
> assignee is not part of the maintainer team of the overlay in question,
> then the bug may be bounced back to bug-wranglers@g.o.
>
> Please discuss.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> jer
>

So you are asking for the layman file to be updated properly or what?

layman -i <overlay name>

IMO, what would really benefit us is to have a site akin to
http://gpo.zugaina.org/ on a Gentoo host to *find* packages that are in
'official' overlays.

-Jeremy

Jeremy Olexa

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

Posted: 01-03-2009, 05:00 AM

Jeroen Roovers wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
>
> in light of some recent discussions where overlay maintainers found
> that bug reports had been assigned "incorrectly" and thought it was apt
> to inform the miscellaneous bug wranglers of the correct assignees, I
> thought it would be a good idea to introduce a new list, akin to
> metadata.xml and herds.xml, to resolve this issue once and for all. As
> with herds and metadata, this overlays.xml should list a repository's
> name, HOMEPAGE and the e-mail address(es) of its maintainers.
>
> In the absence of such information, a bug wrangler may assign the bug
> report to someone who has contributed to the overlay in question, or to
> anyone who might reasonably know whom to properly assign the bug report
> to.
>
> In case assignment goes awry, and when the assignee is part of the team
> of proper assignees, then the team or assignee should make sure
> overlays.xml is updated to reflect the current maintainance status and
> should add the remainder of the assignees themselves. Nothing else
> needs to be done in this case - the next time a different bug wrangler
> might be handling a bug report about that overlay, so CC'ing or pinging
> (on IRC) doesn't make sense - updating overlays.xml would. If the
> assignee is not part of the maintainer team of the overlay in question,
> then the bug may be bounced back to bug-wranglers@g.o.
>
> Please discuss.
>
>
> Kind regards,
> jer
>

Robin H. Johnson

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

Posted: 01-03-2009, 05:20 AM

On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 11:50:07PM -0600, Jeremy Olexa wrote:

> So you are asking for the layman file to be updated properly or what?
> layman -i <overlay name>

As a start:

1. How about somebody actually taking ownership of the layman.txt file
for changes? I've seen a couple of emails come to overlays@ asking about
the file, without answers.

2. Include bug tracking details in the layman file or other overlay
listing.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

Posted: 01-03-2009, 05:20 AM

On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 11:50:07PM -0600, Jeremy Olexa wrote:

> So you are asking for the layman file to be updated properly or what?
> layman -i <overlay name>

Robert Buchholz

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

Posted: 01-03-2009, 11:20 AM

On Saturday 03 January 2009, Robin H. Johnson wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 11:50:07PM -0600, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> > So you are asking for the layman file to be updated properly or
> > what? layman -i <overlay name>
>
> As a start:
>
> 1. How about somebody actually taking ownership of the layman.txt
> file for changes? I've seen a couple of emails come to overlays@
> asking about the file, without answers.

As far as I know, any dev can commit to the file. I've been meaning to
answer the requests, but I was afk over the holidays.

> 2. Include bug tracking details in the layman file or other overlay
> listing.

Good idea. Keeping a second list around with all overlays is just one
more place to update. Do we want/have an extra product or component in
Bugzilla as well (for all overlay issues)?

Robert

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Ciaran McCreesh

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

Posted: 01-03-2009, 01:00 PM

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:50:07 -0600
Jeremy Olexa <darkside@gentoo.org> wrote:

> IMO, what would really benefit us is to have a site akin to
> http://gpo.zugaina.org/ on a Gentoo host to *find* packages that are
> in 'official' overlays.

What would really benefit Gentoo would be able to have the package
manager aware of packages in overlays that it doesn't have configured.
Shouldn't have to fire up a web browser just to get basic information
on a third party package...

--
Ciaran McCreesh

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Jeroen Roovers

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

Posted: 01-03-2009, 04:40 PM

On Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:56:15 +0000
Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com> wrote:

> What would really benefit Gentoo would be able to have the package
> manager aware of [...]

I am sure you know of one that would provide... :)

jer

Jeroen Roovers

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] bugs.g.o supported overlays should register

Posted: 01-03-2009, 04:50 PM

On Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:50:07 -0600
Jeremy Olexa <darkside@gentoo.org> wrote:

> So you are asking for the layman file to be updated properly or what?

I specifically didn't go into the minor technical details (of files and
formats and so on) and described a basic process. Currently there is
no well-defined process, and frankly, 1) I don't use layman since it
hates the locations where I keep repos, 2) the implicit connection
between layman and overlays is lost on me, and 3) where is that
layman.txt file kept anyway (I'd like to have a look at it)?

Kind regards,
jer

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