How configure W2000 Terminal Server to behave as W-XP Remote Desktop Server?

Posted: 11-11-2003, 04:11 PM
Hello,

I have Windows XP-Pro installed on a machine, and I can control it
from any machine (i.e. NT40), using the Remote Desktop Client. When I
do so, I can see the desktop as if I were in front of my Windows XP
machine.

I have also a Windows 2000 Server, with Terminal Server enabled. I can
also control it with Remote Desktop Client. But the result is
different: I get started a new session, different from the one that is
running in the W2000 machine; so the W2000 is running two simultaneous
sessions. But that is not what I need, I only want to take control of
the session that is already running (let's call the 'console'
session).

Is there any way of configuring in my W2000 the Terminal Server to not
create a new session when a Remote Desktop Client tries to connect to
it? But to take control of the console session?

Thanks in advance for any help,
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Bernd Kruczek - [MVP Exchange]
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Re: How configure W2000 Terminal Server to behave as W-XP Remote Desktop Server?
Posted: 11-11-2003, 04:31 PM
jmpdantispam1@yahoo.es (JMPD) wrote in news:c27796ed.0311110911.df05808
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> Hello,
>
> I have Windows XP-Pro installed on a machine, and I can control it
> from any machine (i.e. NT40), using the Remote Desktop Client. When I
> do so, I can see the desktop as if I were in front of my Windows XP
> machine.
>
> I have also a Windows 2000 Server, with Terminal Server enabled. I can
> also control it with Remote Desktop Client. But the result is
> different: I get started a new session, different from the one that is
> running in the W2000 machine; so the W2000 is running two simultaneous
> sessions. But that is not what I need, I only want to take control of
> the session that is already running (let's call the 'console'
> session).
>
> Is there any way of configuring in my W2000 the Terminal Server to not
> create a new session when a Remote Desktop Client tries to connect to
> it? But to take control of the console session?
>
Windows 2000 doesn't know "console" mode.
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Re: How configure W2000 Terminal Server to behave as W-XP Remote Desktop Server?
Posted: 11-12-2003, 03:37 PM
Win2003 terminal server allows admin console access. For win 2000 Terminal
server search the internet for a copy of the free VNC program. Install it
as a service, allow access through the firewall for Port 5900 or whatever
TCPIP port you want to use and then use the VNC client on the remote system
to control the console on the terminal server.

VNC remote control is similar to using PC anywhere for the same purpose but
free and much more stripped down but in this case that is good. All you
need is remote control, as if you are sitting at the server console, and
that's what VNC does.

I have found this critical for the following things.

Running processes and servers that may take a great deal of time. As you
know if you log on a in remote desktop it creates a whole new admin session.
If you kick off the process and then logoff it's a high probability that
process will be killed upon logoff.

Dealing with backup software. most version of Backup exec and arcserve in
use have some real problems when you go in under a remote desktop session
and kick off a job or schedule a future job. Again once you log off it is
all lost. I heard the newest versions handle this better but I have yet to
see it.

Anyone that has a Lotus notes Server. There is no way to see the black
command console (which is critical in notes management without VNC or
PCanywhere running on that server.

Just to summerize what you are implying, my experience has been to properly
manage a server without buggy issues it is much better to use a program that
gives you true console access versus this remote desktop emulation. The
only exception, like I said, is win 2003 which allows you to enter a command
in the remote desktop software that gives your true console access.







"JMPD" <jmpdantispam1@yahoo.es> wrote in message
news:c27796ed.0311110911.df05808@posting.google.co m...
> Hello,
>
> I have Windows XP-Pro installed on a machine, and I can control it
> from any machine (i.e. NT40), using the Remote Desktop Client. When I
> do so, I can see the desktop as if I were in front of my Windows XP
> machine.
>
> I have also a Windows 2000 Server, with Terminal Server enabled. I can
> also control it with Remote Desktop Client. But the result is
> different: I get started a new session, different from the one that is
> running in the W2000 machine; so the W2000 is running two simultaneous
> sessions. But that is not what I need, I only want to take control of
> the session that is already running (let's call the 'console'
> session).
>
> Is there any way of configuring in my W2000 the Terminal Server to not
> create a new session when a Remote Desktop Client tries to connect to
> it? But to take control of the console session?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help,

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Pep
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Re: How configure W2000 Terminal Server to behave as W-XP Remote Desktop Server?
Posted: 11-17-2003, 03:21 PM
Hi Mark!You wrote:.......The
> only exception, like I said, is win 2003 which allows you to enter a
command
> in the remote desktop software that gives your true console access.
Which command is this?Can you please tell me/us?
I have W2003 and have this double-session-problem.
I would be GREATFUL for help!
PEP

"Mark Jerome" <mdjerome@hotmail.com> skrev i melding
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> Win2003 terminal server allows admin console access. For win 2000 Terminal
> server search the internet for a copy of the free VNC program. Install
it
> as a service, allow access through the firewall for Port 5900 or whatever
> TCPIP port you want to use and then use the VNC client on the remote
system
> to control the console on the terminal server.
>
> VNC remote control is similar to using PC anywhere for the same purpose
but
> free and much more stripped down but in this case that is good. All you
> need is remote control, as if you are sitting at the server console, and
> that's what VNC does.
>
> I have found this critical for the following things.
>
> Running processes and servers that may take a great deal of time. As you
> know if you log on a in remote desktop it creates a whole new admin
session.
> If you kick off the process and then logoff it's a high probability that
> process will be killed upon logoff.
>
> Dealing with backup software. most version of Backup exec and arcserve in
> use have some real problems when you go in under a remote desktop session
> and kick off a job or schedule a future job. Again once you log off it is
> all lost. I heard the newest versions handle this better but I have yet
to
> see it.
>
> Anyone that has a Lotus notes Server. There is no way to see the black
> command console (which is critical in notes management without VNC or
> PCanywhere running on that server.
>
> Just to summerize what you are implying, my experience has been to
properly
> manage a server without buggy issues it is much better to use a program
that
> gives you true console access versus this remote desktop emulation. The
> only exception, like I said, is win 2003 which allows you to enter a
command
> in the remote desktop software that gives your true console access.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "JMPD" <jmpdantispam1@yahoo.es> wrote in message
> news:c27796ed.0311110911.df05808@posting.google.co m...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have Windows XP-Pro installed on a machine, and I can control it
> > from any machine (i.e. NT40), using the Remote Desktop Client. When I
> > do so, I can see the desktop as if I were in front of my Windows XP
> > machine.
> >
> > I have also a Windows 2000 Server, with Terminal Server enabled. I can
> > also control it with Remote Desktop Client. But the result is
> > different: I get started a new session, different from the one that is
> > running in the W2000 machine; so the W2000 is running two simultaneous
> > sessions. But that is not what I need, I only want to take control of
> > the session that is already running (let's call the 'console'
> > session).
> >
> > Is there any way of configuring in my W2000 the Terminal Server to not
> > create a new session when a Remote Desktop Client tries to connect to
> > it? But to take control of the console session?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any help,
>
>

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Re: How configure W2000 Terminal Server to behave as W-XP Remote Desktop Server?
Posted: 11-17-2003, 09:04 PM
At a command prompt, type:

mstsc /console

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"Pep" <calibra1@online.no> wrote in
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> Hi Mark!You wrote:.......The
>> only exception, like I said, is win 2003 which allows you to
>> enter a
> command
>> in the remote desktop software that gives your true console
>> access.
>
> Which command is this?Can you please tell me/us?
> I have W2003 and have this double-session-problem.
> I would be GREATFUL for help!
> PEP
>
> "Mark Jerome" <mdjerome@hotmail.com> skrev i melding
> news:OncAItTqDHA.2000@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Win2003 terminal server allows admin console access. For win
>> 2000 Terminal server search the internet for a copy of the
>> free VNC program. Install
> it
>> as a service, allow access through the firewall for Port 5900
>> or whatever TCPIP port you want to use and then use the VNC
>> client on the remote
> system
>> to control the console on the terminal server.
>>
>> VNC remote control is similar to using PC anywhere for the same
>> purpose
> but
>> free and much more stripped down but in this case that is
>> good. All you need is remote control, as if you are sitting at
>> the server console, and that's what VNC does.
>>
>> I have found this critical for the following things.
>>
>> Running processes and servers that may take a great deal of
>> time. As you know if you log on a in remote desktop it creates
>> a whole new admin
> session.
>> If you kick off the process and then logoff it's a high
>> probability that process will be killed upon logoff.
>>
>> Dealing with backup software. most version of Backup exec and
>> arcserve in use have some real problems when you go in under a
>> remote desktop session and kick off a job or schedule a future
>> job. Again once you log off it is all lost. I heard the newest
>> versions handle this better but I have yet
> to
>> see it.
>>
>> Anyone that has a Lotus notes Server. There is no way to see
>> the black command console (which is critical in notes
>> management without VNC or PCanywhere running on that server.
>>
>> Just to summerize what you are implying, my experience has been
>> to
> properly
>> manage a server without buggy issues it is much better to use a
>> program
> that
>> gives you true console access versus this remote desktop
>> emulation. The only exception, like I said, is win 2003 which
>> allows you to enter a
> command
>> in the remote desktop software that gives your true console
>> access.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "JMPD" <jmpdantispam1@yahoo.es> wrote in message
>> news:c27796ed.0311110911.df05808@posting.google.co m...
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have Windows XP-Pro installed on a machine, and I can
>> > control it from any machine (i.e. NT40), using the Remote
>> > Desktop Client. When I do so, I can see the desktop as if I
>> > were in front of my Windows XP machine.
>> >
>> > I have also a Windows 2000 Server, with Terminal Server
>> > enabled. I can also control it with Remote Desktop Client.
>> > But the result is different: I get started a new session,
>> > different from the one that is running in the W2000 machine;
>> > so the W2000 is running two simultaneous sessions. But that
>> > is not what I need, I only want to take control of the
>> > session that is already running (let's call the 'console'
>> > session).
>> >
>> > Is there any way of configuring in my W2000 the Terminal
>> > Server to not create a new session when a Remote Desktop
>> > Client tries to connect to it? But to take control of the
>> > console session?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for any help,
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