How does Vista perform on an dual proc machine ?

Posted: 03-05-2006, 11:46 AM
I'm particularly interested to know this since all the versions of Windows
I've used appear to freeze whenever there's a problem with a Subsystem I/O
activity such as network acces, disk, etc. I'm assuming that this is a
kernel design issue, since the OS isn't really Multi-tasking but
co-operative tasking.


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Re: How does Vista perform on an dual proc machine ?
Posted: 03-05-2006, 12:51 PM
Seems to work OK on mine... haven't seen any major performance issues except
actual Vista ones which I've got even on one of my more basic machines.

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"anonymouse" <anon@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I'm particularly interested to know this since all the versions of Windows
> I've used appear to freeze whenever there's a problem with a Subsystem I/O
> activity such as network acces, disk, etc. I'm assuming that this is a
> kernel design issue, since the OS isn't really Multi-tasking but
> co-operative tasking.
>

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Re: How does Vista perform on an dual proc machine ?
Posted: 03-05-2006, 05:14 PM
slower than xp

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"anonymouse" <anon@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I'm particularly interested to know this since all the versions of Windows
> I've used appear to freeze whenever there's a problem with a Subsystem I/O
> activity such as network acces, disk, etc. I'm assuming that this is a kernel
> design issue, since the OS isn't really Multi-tasking but co-operative
> tasking.
>

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Re: How does Vista perform on an dual proc machine ?
Posted: 03-05-2006, 06:01 PM
I have 3.2 GHz HT and its definitely slow.
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"Gary Keramidas" <GKeramidasATmsn.com> wrote in message
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> slower than xp
>
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> Gary
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> "anonymouse" <anon@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:e0aGQqEQGHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> I'm particularly interested to know this since all the versions of
>> Windows I've used appear to freeze whenever there's a problem with a
>> Subsystem I/O activity such as network acces, disk, etc. I'm assuming
>> that this is a kernel design issue, since the OS isn't really
>> Multi-tasking but co-operative tasking.
>>
>
>

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Re: How does Vista perform on an dual proc machine ?
Posted: 03-05-2006, 09:53 PM
Obviously it's slow and all, however I'm probably taking into account the
fact that performance hasn't been set and Glass does take a lot of stuff up.
So probably over all... yeh it's slow for what my machine should be *-)

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"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have 3.2 GHz HT and its definitely slow.
> --
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> "Gary Keramidas" <GKeramidasATmsn.com> wrote in message
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>> slower than xp
>>
>> --
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>> Gary
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>> "anonymouse" <anon@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:e0aGQqEQGHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>> I'm particularly interested to know this since all the versions of
>>> Windows I've used appear to freeze whenever there's a problem with a
>>> Subsystem I/O activity such as network acces, disk, etc. I'm assuming
>>> that this is a kernel design issue, since the OS isn't really
>>> Multi-tasking but co-operative tasking.
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: How does Vista perform on an dual proc machine ?
Posted: 03-06-2006, 12:54 AM
Yeah, and I accept that, Vista won't be optimized for performance until
around RC1, so I will take it easy on Vista until then.
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"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Obviously it's slow and all, however I'm probably taking into account the
> fact that performance hasn't been set and Glass does take a lot of stuff
> up. So probably over all... yeh it's slow for what my machine should be
> *-)
>
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> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qaUb7HQGHA.5560@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>I have 3.2 GHz HT and its definitely slow.
>> --
>> --
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>> "Gary Keramidas" <GKeramidasATmsn.com> wrote in message
>> news:utHxIhHQGHA.532@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> slower than xp
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> "anonymouse" <anon@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e0aGQqEQGHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>> I'm particularly interested to know this since all the versions of
>>>> Windows I've used appear to freeze whenever there's a problem with a
>>>> Subsystem I/O activity such as network acces, disk, etc. I'm assuming
>>>> that this is a kernel design issue, since the OS isn't really
>>>> Multi-tasking but co-operative tasking.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: How does Vista perform on an dual proc machine ?
Posted: 03-06-2006, 01:16 AM
Hehe )

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"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Yeah, and I accept that, Vista won't be optimized for performance until
> around RC1, so I will take it easy on Vista until then.
> --
> --
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> "Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" <admin@zacknet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:OSGLH9JQGHA.3272@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> Obviously it's slow and all, however I'm probably taking into account the
>> fact that performance hasn't been set and Glass does take a lot of stuff
>> up. So probably over all... yeh it's slow for what my machine should be
>> *-)
>>
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>> not
>> of my employer, best friend, mother or cat. Let's be clear on that one!
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>>
>> --- Original message follows ---
>> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23qaUb7HQGHA.5560@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>I have 3.2 GHz HT and its definitely slow.
>>> --
>>> --
>>> Andre
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>>> Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com
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>>> "Gary Keramidas" <GKeramidasATmsn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:utHxIhHQGHA.532@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> slower than xp
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "anonymouse" <anon@microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e0aGQqEQGHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I'm particularly interested to know this since all the versions of
>>>>> Windows I've used appear to freeze whenever there's a problem with a
>>>>> Subsystem I/O activity such as network acces, disk, etc. I'm assuming
>>>>> that this is a kernel design issue, since the OS isn't really
>>>>> Multi-tasking but co-operative tasking.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: How does Vista perform on an dual proc machine ?
Posted: 03-17-2006, 01:46 PM
Slower than XP-64, but that's to be expected. I've got an AMD X2 4600+ wi 2G
of dual channel memory.

There have been a number of subsystem I/O lockups

"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote:
> Obviously it's slow and all, however I'm probably taking into account the
> fact that performance hasn't been set and Glass does take a lot of stuff up.
> So probably over all... yeh it's slow for what my machine should be *-)
>
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> --- Original message follows ---
> "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" <andred25@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23qaUb7HQGHA.5560@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >I have 3.2 GHz HT and its definitely slow.
> > --
> > --
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> > "Gary Keramidas" <GKeramidasATmsn.com> wrote in message
> > news:utHxIhHQGHA.532@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> slower than xp
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >> Gary
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> >> "anonymouse" <anon@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:e0aGQqEQGHA.224@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >>> I'm particularly interested to know this since all the versions of
> >>> Windows I've used appear to freeze whenever there's a problem with a
> >>> Subsystem I/O activity such as network acces, disk, etc. I'm assuming
> >>> that this is a kernel design issue, since the OS isn't really
> >>> Multi-tasking but co-operative tasking.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: How does Vista perform on an dual proc machine ?
Posted: 03-05-2006, 10:32 PM

"anonymouse" <anon@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I'm particularly interested to know this since all the versions of Windows
> I've used appear to freeze whenever there's a problem with a Subsystem I/O
> activity such as network acces, disk, etc. I'm assuming that this is a
> kernel design issue, since the OS isn't really Multi-tasking but
> co-operative tasking.
>
It will be slower on an Intel Core Duo, faster on an AMD Dual Core. Since
Intel Core Duo procs cannot talk directly to each other, do not have on-die
memory controllers, can't have both L2 caches working at the some time, have
no Hypertransport bus, and have not Direct Connect architecture, they cannot
run the OS as efficiently.
FWIW, the Vista Development team is using AMD Athlon64 processors for its
testbeds...that should tell you something. At the risk of starting a war
here, AMD X2 and Intel Core Duo are significantly different from each other.
In 32 bit, the difference is not very noticeable. With Vista, the difference
in the two architectures is *very* apparent.

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Re: How does Vista perform on an dual proc machine ?
Posted: 03-06-2006, 05:15 PM
Hello!

"NoNoBadDog!" <nospam@mymail.net> wrote in message
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> It will be slower on an Intel Core Duo, faster on an AMD Dual Core. Since
> Intel Core Duo procs cannot talk directly to each other, do not have
> on-die memory controllers, can't have both L2 caches working at the some
> time, have no Hypertransport bus, and have not Direct Connect
> architecture, they cannot run the OS as efficiently.
> FWIW, the Vista Development team is using AMD Athlon64 processors for its
> testbeds...that should tell you something. At the risk of starting a war
> here, AMD X2 and Intel Core Duo are significantly different from each
> other.
Yep, http://www.neoseeker.com/news/story/5418/
Unlike the Core Duo, each execution core is not independently clocked nor
powered, so if one core is doing all the work, that means that the other one
is running at maximum speed and voltage the entire time. With the Core Duo,
each core can adjust itself, depending on the application.
Cheers, Roman

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