How to use Acronis to backup o/s ?

Posted: 01-17-2009, 04:06 AM
I've got Acronis True Image 9.

I want to backup my standalone's o/s to a diferent physical harddrive on the
machine, with the priority being on simplicty and actually being able to
re-install when the o/s goes bad, or won't boot, a year or two from now.
The o/s is only about 7 gigs, and I've got lots of space, so that's not an
issue.

I have looked over the Acronis material, and even used their online chat to
ask about a straightforward way of doing it, without really coming away with
anything I want to operate on.

Can anybody give me a few streps and some overview info on this? Clone
versus image? How to for a boot disk.. what to do when a failure happens,
etc.

Thnx


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Leonard Grey
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Re: How to use Acronis to backup o/s ?
Posted: 01-17-2009, 04:13 AM
Here is the Official Acronis Support Forum:
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=65
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John D99 wrote:
> I've got Acronis True Image 9.
>
> I want to backup my standalone's o/s to a diferent physical harddrive on the
> machine, with the priority being on simplicty and actually being able to
> re-install when the o/s goes bad, or won't boot, a year or two from now.
> The o/s is only about 7 gigs, and I've got lots of space, so that's not an
> issue.
>
> I have looked over the Acronis material, and even used their online chat to
> ask about a straightforward way of doing it, without really coming away with
> anything I want to operate on.
>
> Can anybody give me a few streps and some overview info on this? Clone
> versus image? How to for a boot disk.. what to do when a failure happens,
> etc.
>
> Thnx
>
>
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Re: How to use Acronis to backup o/s ?
Posted: 01-17-2009, 04:48 AM
"John D99" <JD99@quantum.com> wrote:
>I've got Acronis True Image 9.
>
>I want to backup my standalone's o/s to a diferent physical harddrive on the
>machine, with the priority being on simplicty and actually being able to
>re-install when the o/s goes bad, or won't boot, a year or two from now.
>The o/s is only about 7 gigs, and I've got lots of space, so that's not an
>issue.
>
>I have looked over the Acronis material, and even used their online chat to
>ask about a straightforward way of doing it, without really coming away with
>anything I want to operate on.
>
>Can anybody give me a few streps and some overview info on this? Clone
>versus image? How to for a boot disk.. what to do when a failure happens,
>etc.
You gotta be kidding. If you can't figure out how to use Acronis
True Image, you don't belong at that keyboard.

Image, don't clone. Create the image on a different hard drive, not a
different partition - preferably an external drive.

Boot disk: Acronis does it for you. If it fails, your burner needs
replacing.

Backup won't fail unless you don't have enough space for the image.

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John D99
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Re: How to use Acronis to backup o/s ?
Posted: 01-17-2009, 06:06 AM

"Max Goldman" <maxgoldman@adiceclay.invalid> wrote in message
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> "John D99" <JD99@quantum.com> wrote:
>
>>I've got Acronis True Image 9.
>>
>>I want to backup my standalone's o/s to a diferent physical harddrive on
>>the
>>machine, with the priority being on simplicty and actually being able to
>>re-install when the o/s goes bad, or won't boot, a year or two from now.
>>The o/s is only about 7 gigs, and I've got lots of space, so that's not an
>>issue.
>>
>>I have looked over the Acronis material, and even used their online chat
>>to
>>ask about a straightforward way of doing it, without really coming away
>>with
>>anything I want to operate on.
>>
>>Can anybody give me a few streps and some overview info on this? Clone
>>versus image? How to for a boot disk.. what to do when a failure happens,
>>etc.
>
> You gotta be kidding. If you can't figure out how to use Acronis
> True Image, you don't belong at that keyboard.
Eat shit, asshole.

This is a forum for people who are unfamaliar with something to ask
questions.

>
> Image, don't clone. Create the image on a different hard drive, not a
> different partition - preferably an external drive.
>
> Boot disk: Acronis does it for you. If it fails, your burner needs
> replacing.
>
> Backup won't fail unless you don't have enough space for the image.
>
>

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Re: How to use Acronis to backup o/s ?
Posted: 01-17-2009, 06:26 AM
"John D99" <JD99@quantum.com> wrote in message
news:vdKdndZQ2PzUxOzUnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@earthlink.co m...
> I've got Acronis True Image 9.
>
> I want to backup my standalone's o/s to a diferent physical harddrive
> on the machine, with the priority being on simplicty and actually
> being able to re-install when the o/s goes bad, or won't boot, a year
> or two from now. The o/s is only about 7 gigs, and I've got lots of
> space, so that's not an issue.
>
> I have looked over the Acronis material, and even used their online
> chat to ask about a straightforward way of doing it, without really
> coming away with anything I want to operate on.
>
> Can anybody give me a few streps and some overview info on this?
It's all spelled out in Chapter 4 of the manual. Section 4.2 on p.22
covers how to perform an image backup.
> Clone versus image?
Cloning is an option, but IMO it's not that practical. Just make an
image of the drive. Store the image on an external hard drive. This way,
you'll be able to store *other* things on the external hard drive, too.
In addition to the image of the pristine state, you should get into the
habit of making regular images because you will be installing new
programs and creating and storing new data over time. Suppose it's two
years down the road and your system is still stable. You have tons of
different kinds of data on it, all sorts of programs, security updates,
settings to any number of things configured just the way you like it.
Imagine you have an image of the entire hard drive. Now imagine
something bad happens (could be anything that results in your not being
able to boot up). As long as you have the image on an external hard
drive, all you need to do is boot off the Acronis CD and you can restore
the image to your hard drive and everything will be as it was right
before the disaster.
> How to for a boot disk..
That's in Section 10.2 on pp. 55-56.
> what to do when a failure happens, etc.
No offense, but RTFM. After reading it, then ask your questions (if you
still have any). Once you roll up your sleeves and use the product, you
will start to feel very comforable with it.

The only thing I would add is later on down the road, you may find you
don't like the boot CD. In my case, restoration takes quite a while when
using their Linux-based emergrency CD. That's why I burned my own
custom-made Bart PE CD with an Acronis True Image plugin. The
restoration process is much quicker when using that particular boot CD.

Some tweaks were necessary, though. I needed the latest build of Version
9 (at the time, it was 3854). After registering, Acronis gave me a link
to download it. I also needed to obtain two DLLs that Acronis didn't
include for their plugin (!) -- MSVCP71.DLL and MSVCR71.DLL and made the
following additions to the acronis.inf file:

files\Drivers\msvcr71.dll=2,,1
files\Drivers\msvcp71.dll=2,,1

Keep in mind, that the above is only for "later on down the road!"
(Building a BART PE emergency boot CD is a different matter. I just
brought it up so you know there are workarounds to the CD that Acronis
provides.)

For now, just familiarize yourself with the program and use it. Schedule
incremental imaging backups, too. And as Leonard stated, the Acronis
forum would be the best place to ask questions:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com:80/forumdisplay.php?f=65


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Re: How to use Acronis to backup o/s ?
Posted: 01-17-2009, 07:56 AM
"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>No offense, but RTFM. After reading it, then ask your questions (if you
>still have any). Once you roll up your sleeves and use the product, you
>will start to feel very comforable with it.
>
>The only thing I would add is later on down the road, you may find you
>don't like the boot CD. In my case, restoration takes quite a while when
>using their Linux-based emergrency CD. That's why I burned my own
>custom-made Bart PE CD with an Acronis True Image plugin.
They guy didn't even RTFM and is here begging for help.

What chance do you think he'll have setting up a BartPE CD!???

Slim and NONE.
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Re: How to use Acronis to backup o/s ?
Posted: 01-17-2009, 08:54 AM
Maybe he wants a "Start" button on the screen to sense and do whatever he
wants in a single click (in a "straightforward" way)?

Engin


"Max Goldman" <maxgoldman@adiceclay.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>
>>No offense, but RTFM. After reading it, then ask your questions (if you
>>still have any). Once you roll up your sleeves and use the product, you
>>will start to feel very comforable with it.
>>
>>The only thing I would add is later on down the road, you may find you
>>don't like the boot CD. In my case, restoration takes quite a while when
>>using their Linux-based emergrency CD. That's why I burned my own
>>custom-made Bart PE CD with an Acronis True Image plugin.
>
> They guy didn't even RTFM and is here begging for help.
>
> What chance do you think he'll have setting up a BartPE CD!???
>
> Slim and NONE.

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Big_Al
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Re: How to use Acronis to backup o/s ?
Posted: 01-17-2009, 12:58 PM
Engin Tarhan said this on 1/17/2009 3:54 AM:
> Maybe he wants a "Start" button on the screen to sense and do whatever he
> wants in a single click (in a "straightforward" way)?
>
> Engin
>
>
> "Max Goldman" <maxgoldman@adiceclay.invalid> wrote in message
> news:in33n411hbmd3obi72svroikmua87leho3@4ax.com...
>> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> No offense, but RTFM. After reading it, then ask your questions (if you
>>> still have any). Once you roll up your sleeves and use the product, you
>>> will start to feel very comforable with it.
>>>
>>> The only thing I would add is later on down the road, you may find you
>>> don't like the boot CD. In my case, restoration takes quite a while when
>>> using their Linux-based emergrency CD. That's why I burned my own
>>> custom-made Bart PE CD with an Acronis True Image plugin.
>> They guy didn't even RTFM and is here begging for help.
>>
>> What chance do you think he'll have setting up a BartPE CD!???
>>
>> Slim and NONE.
>
>
This is the person that needs a Wizard! Wait!..... there is one!
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John D99
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Re: How to use Acronis to backup o/s ?
Posted: 01-17-2009, 05:21 PM

"Max Goldman" <maxgoldman@adiceclay.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>
>>No offense, but RTFM. After reading it, then ask your questions (if you
>>still have any). Once you roll up your sleeves and use the product, you
>>will start to feel very comforable with it.
>>
>>The only thing I would add is later on down the road, you may find you
>>don't like the boot CD. In my case, restoration takes quite a while when
>>using their Linux-based emergrency CD. That's why I burned my own
>>custom-made Bart PE CD with an Acronis True Image plugin.
>
> They guy didn't even RTFM and is here begging for help.
>
> What chance do you think he'll have setting up a BartPE CD!???
>
> Slim and NONE.
We had a Maxie jerkoff like this where I work. He thought everybody should
spend all their time reading cryptic manuals on numerous programs instead of
asking questions pertinent to their own usage. In addition to being an
asshole, the advice he gave was often misleading and inappropriate for the
purposes intended.

To be brief, a few of us got him fired a year ago, and the only place he
could get a job was Circuit City as some kind of a tech.




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Jim Moriarty
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Re: How to use Acronis to backup o/s ?
Posted: 01-17-2009, 10:27 PM
On Sat, 17 Jan 2009 10:21:46 -0700, "John D99" <JD99@quantum.com>
wrote:
>We had a Maxie jerkoff like this where I work. He thought everybody should
>spend all their time reading cryptic manuals on numerous programs instead of
>asking questions pertinent to their own usage.
There are a lot of bozos in the world who want others to do their work
for them so that they don't have to RTFM.

You have a lot of company.
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