How to use Acronis to backup o/s ?

"John D99" <JD99@quantum.com> wrote:

>I've got Acronis True Image 9.
>
>I want to backup my standalone's o/s to a diferent physical harddrive on the
>machine, with the priority being on simplicty and actually being able to
>re-install when the o/s goes bad, or won't boot, a year or two from now.
>The o/s is only about 7 gigs, and I've got lots of space, so that's not an
>issue.
>
>I have looked over the Acronis material, and even used their online chat to
>ask about a straightforward way of doing it, without really coming away with
>anything I want to operate on.
>
>Can anybody give me a few streps and some overview info on this? Clone
>versus image? How to for a boot disk.. what to do when a failure happens,
>etc.

You gotta be kidding. If you can't figure out how to use Acronis
True Image, you don't belong at that keyboard.

Image, don't clone. Create the image on a different hard drive, not a
different partition - preferably an external drive.

Boot disk: Acronis does it for you. If it fails, your burner needs
replacing.

Backup won't fail unless you don't have enough space for the image.

"Max Goldman" <maxgoldman@adiceclay.invalid> wrote in message
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> "John D99" <JD99@quantum.com> wrote:
>

>>I've got Acronis True Image 9.
>>
>>I want to backup my standalone's o/s to a diferent physical harddrive on
>>the
>>machine, with the priority being on simplicty and actually being able to
>>re-install when the o/s goes bad, or won't boot, a year or two from now.
>>The o/s is only about 7 gigs, and I've got lots of space, so that's not an
>>issue.
>>
>>I have looked over the Acronis material, and even used their online chat
>>to
>>ask about a straightforward way of doing it, without really coming away
>>with
>>anything I want to operate on.
>>
>>Can anybody give me a few streps and some overview info on this? Clone
>>versus image? How to for a boot disk.. what to do when a failure happens,
>>etc.

>

> You gotta be kidding. If you can't figure out how to use Acronis
> True Image, you don't belong at that keyboard.

Eat shit, asshole.

This is a forum for people who are unfamaliar with something to ask
questions.

>
> Image, don't clone. Create the image on a different hard drive, not a
> different partition - preferably an external drive.
>
> Boot disk: Acronis does it for you. If it fails, your burner needs
> replacing.
>
> Backup won't fail unless you don't have enough space for the image.
>
>

"John D99" <JD99@quantum.com> wrote in message
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> I've got Acronis True Image 9.
>
> I want to backup my standalone's o/s to a diferent physical harddrive
> on the machine, with the priority being on simplicty and actually
> being able to re-install when the o/s goes bad, or won't boot, a year
> or two from now. The o/s is only about 7 gigs, and I've got lots of
> space, so that's not an issue.
>
> I have looked over the Acronis material, and even used their online
> chat to ask about a straightforward way of doing it, without really
> coming away with anything I want to operate on.
>
> Can anybody give me a few streps and some overview info on this?

It's all spelled out in Chapter 4 of the manual. Section 4.2 on p.22
covers how to perform an image backup.

> Clone versus image?

Cloning is an option, but IMO it's not that practical. Just make an
image of the drive. Store the image on an external hard drive. This way,
you'll be able to store *other* things on the external hard drive, too.
In addition to the image of the pristine state, you should get into the
habit of making regular images because you will be installing new
programs and creating and storing new data over time. Suppose it's two
years down the road and your system is still stable. You have tons of
different kinds of data on it, all sorts of programs, security updates,
settings to any number of things configured just the way you like it.
Imagine you have an image of the entire hard drive. Now imagine
something bad happens (could be anything that results in your not being
able to boot up). As long as you have the image on an external hard
drive, all you need to do is boot off the Acronis CD and you can restore
the image to your hard drive and everything will be as it was right
before the disaster.

> How to for a boot disk..

That's in Section 10.2 on pp. 55-56.

> what to do when a failure happens, etc.

No offense, but RTFM. After reading it, then ask your questions (if you
still have any). Once you roll up your sleeves and use the product, you
will start to feel very comforable with it.

The only thing I would add is later on down the road, you may find you
don't like the boot CD. In my case, restoration takes quite a while when
using their Linux-based emergrency CD. That's why I burned my own
custom-made Bart PE CD with an Acronis True Image plugin. The
restoration process is much quicker when using that particular boot CD.

Some tweaks were necessary, though. I needed the latest build of Version
9 (at the time, it was 3854). After registering, Acronis gave me a link
to download it. I also needed to obtain two DLLs that Acronis didn't
include for their plugin (!) -- MSVCP71.DLL and MSVCR71.DLL and made the
following additions to the acronis.inf file:

files\Drivers\msvcr71.dll=2,,1
files\Drivers\msvcp71.dll=2,,1

Keep in mind, that the above is only for "later on down the road!"
(Building a BART PE emergency boot CD is a different matter. I just
brought it up so you know there are workarounds to the CD that Acronis
provides.)

For now, just familiarize yourself with the program and use it. Schedule
incremental imaging backups, too. And as Leonard stated, the Acronis
forum would be the best place to ask questions:

http://www.wilderssecurity.com:80/forumdisplay.php?f=65

"Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:

>No offense, but RTFM. After reading it, then ask your questions (if you
>still have any). Once you roll up your sleeves and use the product, you
>will start to feel very comforable with it.
>
>The only thing I would add is later on down the road, you may find you
>don't like the boot CD. In my case, restoration takes quite a while when
>using their Linux-based emergrency CD. That's why I burned my own
>custom-made Bart PE CD with an Acronis True Image plugin.

They guy didn't even RTFM and is here begging for help.

What chance do you think he'll have setting up a BartPE CD!???

Slim and NONE.

Maybe he wants a "Start" button on the screen to sense and do whatever he
wants in a single click (in a "straightforward" way)?

Engin


"Max Goldman" <maxgoldman@adiceclay.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>

>>No offense, but RTFM. After reading it, then ask your questions (if you
>>still have any). Once you roll up your sleeves and use the product, you
>>will start to feel very comforable with it.
>>
>>The only thing I would add is later on down the road, you may find you
>>don't like the boot CD. In my case, restoration takes quite a while when
>>using their Linux-based emergrency CD. That's why I burned my own
>>custom-made Bart PE CD with an Acronis True Image plugin.

>
> They guy didn't even RTFM and is here begging for help.
>
> What chance do you think he'll have setting up a BartPE CD!???
>
> Slim and NONE.

Engin Tarhan said this on 1/17/2009 3:54 AM:

> Maybe he wants a "Start" button on the screen to sense and do whatever he
> wants in a single click (in a "straightforward" way)?
>
> Engin
>
>
> "Max Goldman" <maxgoldman@adiceclay.invalid> wrote in message
> news:in33n411hbmd3obi72svroikmua87leho3@4ax.com...

>> "Daave" <dcwashNOSPAM@myrealboxXYZ.invalid> wrote:
>>

>>> No offense, but RTFM. After reading it, then ask your questions (if you
>>> still have any). Once you roll up your sleeves and use the product, you
>>> will start to feel very comforable with it.
>>>
>>> The only thing I would add is later on down the road, you may find you
>>> don't like the boot CD. In my case, restoration takes quite a while when
>>> using their Linux-based emergrency CD. That's why I burned my own
>>> custom-made Bart PE CD with an Acronis True Image plugin.

>> They guy didn't even RTFM and is here begging for help.
>>
>> What chance do you think he'll have setting up a BartPE CD!???
>>
>> Slim and NONE.

>
>

This is the person that needs a Wizard! Wait!..... there is one!

"John D99" <JD99@quantum.com> wrote in message
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> I've got Acronis True Image 9.
>
> I want to backup my standalone's o/s to a diferent physical harddrive on
> the machine, with the priority being on simplicty and actually being able
> to re-install when the o/s goes bad, or won't boot, a year or two from
> now. The o/s is only about 7 gigs, and I've got lots of space, so that's
> not an issue.
>
> I have looked over the Acronis material, and even used their online chat
> to ask about a straightforward way of doing it, without really coming away
> with anything I want to operate on.
>
> Can anybody give me a few streps and some overview info on this? Clone
> versus image? How to for a boot disk.. what to do when a failure happens,
> etc.
>
> Thnx

John D99:
Although I know you've received responses to your query that probably have
resolved your problem, allow me to submit one more...

I prepared the below step-by-step instructions for using the ATI program
(versions 9 or 10) some time ago for a group of users.

Step-by-Step Instructions for Using the Acronis True Image Program to Backup
& Restore One's Hard Drive...

Using the Acronis True Image program there are two different approaches one
can take to back up the entire contents of one's day-to-day working HDD,
i.e., the operating system, all programs & applications, and user-created
data - in short, *everything* that's on one's HDD...

1. Direct disk-to-disk cloning, or,
2. Creating disk images

By using either of these strategies the user can restore his or her system
should their day-to-day working HDD become inoperable because of
mechanical/electronic failure of the disk or corruption of the system
resulting in a dysfunctional operating system.

In undertaking either of these two backup & recovery processes you're
dealing with two hard drives - the so-called source & destination disks -
the source disk being the HDD you're backing up and the destination disk
being the HDD that will be the recipient of the cloned contents of the
source disk or the recipient of the disk image you will be creating.

When using either process it's usually best for most users to use an
external HDD as the destination drive, i.e., the recipient of the cloned
contents of the source disk or the recipient of the created disk image. This
can be either a USB or Firewire or SATA external HDD. While another internal
HDD can also serve as the destination disk there's an additional element of
safety in using an external HDD since that drive will be ordinarily
disconnected from the system except during the disk cloning or recovery
process.

One other suggestion. After you install the Acronis program on your computer
it's a good idea to create what Acronis calls their "Bootable Rescue Media"
(CD). In most cases the recovery process (described below) will utilize that
Acronis bootable CD to restore your system. This "rescue" CD is easily
created from the program by
clicking on the "Create Bootable Rescue Media" icon on the opening Acronis
screen and simply going through the screens to create the bootable CD.

The following are step-by-step instructions for using the Acronis True Image
9 program to clone the contents of one HDD to an external HDD. (The steps
are essentially the same using the newer ATI 10 version):

1. With both hard drives (source & destination disks) connected, boot up.
Ensure that no other storage devices, e.g., flash drives, ZIP drives, etc.,
are connected. It's also probably a good idea to shut down any programs you
may have working in the background - including any anti-virus anti-spyware
programs - before undertaking this disk-to-disk cloning operation.

2. Access the Acronis True Image 9 program and under "Pick a Task", click
on "Clone Disk". (In the ATI 10 version click on "Manage Hard Disks" in the
"Pick a Tool" area and on the next screen click on "Clone Disk").

3. On the next "Welcome to the Disk Clone Wizard!" window, click Next.

4. On the next "Clone Mode" window select the Automatic option (it should
be the default option selected) and click Next.

5. On the next "Source Hard Disk" window, ensure that the correct source
HDD (the disk you're cloning from) has been selected (click to highlight).
Click Next.

6. On the next "Destination Hard Disk" window, ensure that the correct
destination HDD (the disk you're cloning to) has been selected (again, click
to highlight). Click Next.

7. On the next window, select the option "Delete partitions on the
destination hard disk". Understand that all data presently on the disk that
will be the recipient of the clone will be deleted prior to the disk cloning
operation. Click Next.

8. The next window will reflect the source and destination disks. Again,
confirm that the correct drives have been selected. Click Next.

9. On the next window click on the Proceed button. A message box will
display indicating that a reboot will be required to undertake the disk
cloning operation. Click Reboot.

10. The cloning operation will proceed during the reboot. With modern
components and a medium to high-powered processor, data transfer rate will
be somewhere in the range of about 450 MB/min to 800 MB/min when cloning to
a USB external HDD; considerably faster when cloning to another internal
HDD.

11. When the cloning operation has been completed, a message will appear
indicating the disk cloning process has been successful and instructs you to
shut down the computer by pressing any key. Do so and disconnect your USB
external HDD.

If, however, the destination drive has been another *internal* HDD, see the
NOTE below.

12. Note that the cloned contents now residing on the USB external HDD take
on the file system of the source drive. For example, if prior to the
disk-cloning operation your USB external HDD had been FAT32-formatted and
your XP OS was NTFS-formatted, the cloned contents will be NTFS-formatted.

There is no need to format the USB external HDD prior to the disk-cloning
operation. Similarly, there is no need prior to the disk-cloning operation
to format an internal HDD should you be using an internal HDD as the
destination drive .

13. Restoration of the system can be achieved by cloning the contents of the
data residing on the external HDD to an internal HDD through the normal
disk-cloning process as described above.

NOTE: Just one other point that should be emphasized with respect to the
disk cloning operation should the recipient of the clone be another
*internal* HDD and not a USB or Firewire external HDD. Immediately following
the disk cloning operation the machine should be shutdown and the source HDD
should be disconnected. Boot ONLY to the newly-cloned drive. DO NOT BOOT
IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE CLONING OPERATION WITH BOTH DRIVES CONNECTED.
While this problem doesn't always arise there is a strong possibility that
by doing so it is likely to cause future boot problems with the cloned
drive. Obviously there is no problem in this area should a USB or Firewire
EHD be the recipient of the clone since that device is not ordinarily
bootable in an XP environment.

John99...
I've not included the instructions for the Acronis disk-imaging process
since I assume from your query that you would be interested only in the
disk-cloning process. But if you want step-by-step instructions for the
disk-imaging (and restoration) process, I'll post them.
Anna

> I've not included the instructions for the Acronis disk-imaging process

> since I assume from your query that you would be interested only in the
> disk-cloning process. But if you want step-by-step instructions for the
> disk-imaging (and restoration) process, I'll post them.
> Anna
>
>

Hi Anna
I have ATI 9 installed and I would appreciate it if you would post the step
by step instructions for the disc imaging/restoration process.
Regards Bill