Industrial SanDisk compact flash card

I recently tried an industrial SanDisk compact flash card. The retail
cards I've been receiving don't work with the set-removable-bit-program,
and SanDisk tech support told me even their new utility wouldn't work
with my new cards.

They did state the industrial cards would work, so I tried one.

Wow!

The industrial cards are much faster than the retail cards. Boot up
times are much shorter. I have PIO mode set to auto in the device bios.
For the retail cards, the device chooses PIO mode 1. For the industrial
cards, PIO mode 4 is selected. I can manually select PIO mode 4 for the
retail cards, but they are still not as fast.

Boot time from start of POST to Windows screen
Retail 144 seconds
Industrial 79 seconds

Both set to PIO mode 4. My device has a fairly long POST time, and the
sample size is one for each type of card (statistically invalid), but it
still demonstrates quite a difference.

Jim Belant

Tom Salicos wrote:

> So how much $$ ??
>
> We pay a little under $50US for 256MB at Costco. I wonder what's the
> premium for industrial?
>

The cheapest I found was $108 for 256MB industrial (standard temperature
range). We were paying about $55 for the 256MB retail cards.

I purchased it from here:

http://www.pc-cardmart.com/

Jim Belant

So how much $$ ??

We pay a little under $50US for 256MB at Costco. I wonder what's the
premium for industrial?

Tom


"Jim Belant" <jbelant@wpsenergy.com> wrote in message
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> I recently tried an industrial SanDisk compact flash card. The retail
> cards I've been receiving don't work with the set-removable-bit-program,
> and SanDisk tech support told me even their new utility wouldn't work
> with my new cards.
>
> They did state the industrial cards would work, so I tried one.
>
> Wow!
>
> The industrial cards are much faster than the retail cards. Boot up
> times are much shorter. I have PIO mode set to auto in the device bios.
> For the retail cards, the device chooses PIO mode 1. For the industrial
> cards, PIO mode 4 is selected. I can manually select PIO mode 4 for the
> retail cards, but they are still not as fast.
>
> Boot time from start of POST to Windows screen
> Retail 144 seconds
> Industrial 79 seconds
>
> Both set to PIO mode 4. My device has a fairly long POST time, and the
> sample size is one for each type of card (statistically invalid), but it
> still demonstrates quite a difference.
>
> Jim Belant
>

Here is a CF solution that I have just found; we plan on trying it. It will
allow you to use any CF and plug it into an IDE slot; apparently the CF will
be seen as a fixed drive.
http://store.ituner.com/ituner/emstcfl.html

Sean Gahan


"Jim Belant" <jbelant@wpsenergy.com> wrote in message
news:OQLvHxmjDHA.2244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

> I recently tried an industrial SanDisk compact flash card. The retail
> cards I've been receiving don't work with the set-removable-bit-program,
> and SanDisk tech support told me even their new utility wouldn't work
> with my new cards.
>
> They did state the industrial cards would work, so I tried one.
>
> Wow!
>
> The industrial cards are much faster than the retail cards. Boot up
> times are much shorter. I have PIO mode set to auto in the device bios.
> For the retail cards, the device chooses PIO mode 1. For the industrial
> cards, PIO mode 4 is selected. I can manually select PIO mode 4 for the
> retail cards, but they are still not as fast.
>
> Boot time from start of POST to Windows screen
> Retail 144 seconds
> Industrial 79 seconds
>
> Both set to PIO mode 4. My device has a fairly long POST time, and the
> sample size is one for each type of card (statistically invalid), but it
> still demonstrates quite a difference.
>
> Jim Belant
>

I"d be surprised if this makes the drive read as non-removable.
I use something similar to format to NTFS and copy my pre FBA images onto my
CF cards.
Without setting the CF card to non-removable, I can not format to NTFS and
EWF does not work (so far)

David
"sean" <sean@optistreams.net> wrote in message
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> Here is a CF solution that I have just found; we plan on trying it. It

will

> allow you to use any CF and plug it into an IDE slot; apparently the CF

will

> be seen as a fixed drive.
> http://store.ituner.com/ituner/emstcfl.html
>
> Sean Gahan
>
>
> "Jim Belant" <jbelant@wpsenergy.com> wrote in message
> news:OQLvHxmjDHA.2244@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

>
>

David,
We currently use laptop drives in our units, but we also have another
application/platform that we are just starting to work on and they will
require CF. Can you give me more information on your method.

Thanks,

Sean Gahan



"David Ditch" <dditch1@deletediscomcast.net> wrote in message
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> I"d be surprised if this makes the drive read as non-removable.
> I use something similar to format to NTFS and copy my pre FBA images onto

my

> CF cards.
> Without setting the CF card to non-removable, I can not format to NTFS and
> EWF does not work (so far)
>
> David
> "sean" <sean@optistreams.net> wrote in message
> news:OHHw37pjDHA.2140@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

> will

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