Is it normal for my Samsung 17" CRT monitor to still create heatin off mode (XP's power saving)?

On 4/3/2004 6:25 AM PT, wojo wrote:

>>Hello.
>>
>>Is it normal for my Samsung 17" SyncMaster 763MB CRT monitor to still
>>create some heat when it is off from Windows XP's power management? I
>>thought when monitor is off, it is like turning off manually (power
>>button) except the blinking power light (sleep). I notice my room is still
>>very warm in this power saving mode as if it was on. And no, I do not use
>>any fancy OpenGL screen savers for my ATI Radeon 9800 AIW (128 MB) and
>>Athlon 2200+ CPU to stress on that can cook my room easily.
>>
>>Thank you in advance.

>
> No that is definitely not normal.
> Your monitor is faulty.
> It may be pssoible to unpluf it for a few hours to drain the capacitors,
> clean the dust off the ventilation slots on the top and back, and then turn
> it back on. But not likely.
> If it is a new monitor or a monitor less than a year old (still under
> warranty) it needs to be replaced.

Thanks for the very quick response. Rats, I wished I had noticed it
earlier. I have had this monitor since July 2002. I only use the power
saving mode (sleep) when I forgot to turn off the monitor manually
because I fell asleep which is rare.
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/Ant/ said:

> Is it normal for my Samsung 17" SyncMaster 763MB CRT monitor to still
> create some heat when it is off from Windows XP's power management? I
> thought when monitor is off, it is like turning off manually (power
> button) except the blinking power light (sleep). I notice my room is
> still very warm in this power saving mode as if it was on. And no, I do
> not use any fancy OpenGL screen savers for my ATI Radeon 9800 AIW (128
> MB) and Athlon 2200+ CPU to stress on that can cook my room easily.

In flashing yellow mode, the monitor is "snoozing", but not totally
powered down. 3 to 5 watt consumption is typical. See the monitor
instruction booklet for a more precise accounting.

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On 4/3/2004 6:36 AM PT, dev wrote:

>>Is it normal for my Samsung 17" SyncMaster 763MB CRT monitor to still
>>create some heat when it is off from Windows XP's power management? I
>>thought when monitor is off, it is like turning off manually (power
>>button) except the blinking power light (sleep). I notice my room is
>>still very warm in this power saving mode as if it was on. And no, I do
>>not use any fancy OpenGL screen savers for my ATI Radeon 9800 AIW (128
>>MB) and Athlon 2200+ CPU to stress on that can cook my room easily.

>
> In flashing yellow mode, the monitor is "snoozing", but not totally
> powered down. 3 to 5 watt consumption is typical. See the monitor
> instruction booklet for a more precise accounting.

Mine blinks (every two seconds) green lights during snoozing mode (after
two hours of idleness).

I looked at the monitor's thick Getting Started manual (includes many
foreign languages), and it mentioned nothing about power saving modes.
How dumb.

I did notice the manual said monitor driver and even a CD-ROM is
included for it. I do recall installing it years ago, but I noticed
Windows XP said "Default Monitor (winseset) on ALL-IN-WONDER 9800
SERIES" (dated 11/11/2002 from MS). Do you think this is a problem?
Also, I forgot to mention that I use a Belkin KVM (2-ports) but I don't
think this should be a problem.

The monitor does work well and does sleep. It does take a while to come
back from its snooze mode as if I turned it off.
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what I mean. It's like one female that runs the whole show." "Yes, the
queen." "Yeah the mamma. She is bad*ss, man. I mean big." "These things
ain't ants estupido." "I know that." --ALIENS movie
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/Ant/ said:

> On 4/3/2004 6:36 AM PT, dev wrote:
>
>

>>>Is it normal for my Samsung 17" SyncMaster 763MB CRT monitor to still
>>>create some heat when it is off from Windows XP's power management? I
>>>thought when monitor is off, it is like turning off manually (power
>>>button) except the blinking power light (sleep). I notice my room is
>>>still very warm in this power saving mode as if it was on. And no, I do
>>>not use any fancy OpenGL screen savers for my ATI Radeon 9800 AIW (128
>>>MB) and Athlon 2200+ CPU to stress on that can cook my room easily.

>>
>>In flashing yellow mode, the monitor is "snoozing", but not totally
>>powered down. 3 to 5 watt consumption is typical. See the monitor
>>instruction booklet for a more precise accounting.

>
> Mine blinks (every two seconds) green lights during snoozing mode (after
> two hours of idleness).
>
> I looked at the monitor's thick Getting Started manual (includes many
> foreign languages), and it mentioned nothing about power saving modes.
> How dumb.
>
> I did notice the manual said monitor driver and even a CD-ROM is
> included for it. I do recall installing it years ago, but I noticed
> Windows XP said "Default Monitor (winseset) on ALL-IN-WONDER 9800
> SERIES" (dated 11/11/2002 from MS). Do you think this is a problem?
> Also, I forgot to mention that I use a Belkin KVM (2-ports) but I don't
> think this should be a problem.
>
> The monitor does work well and does sleep. It does take a while to come
> back from its snooze mode as if I turned it off.

Strikes me as normal operation...and what I see here when monitor awakens.

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>>> Is it normal for my Samsung 17" SyncMaster 763MB CRT monitor to still

>>> create some heat when it is off from Windows XP's power management? I
>>> thought when monitor is off, it is like turning off manually (power
>>> button) except the blinking power light (sleep). I notice my room is
>>> still very warm in this power saving mode as if it was on. And no, I
>>> do not use any fancy OpenGL screen savers for my ATI Radeon 9800 AIW
>>> (128 MB) and Athlon 2200+ CPU to stress on that can cook my room easily.

>>
>> In flashing yellow mode, the monitor is "snoozing", but not totally
>> powered down. 3 to 5 watt consumption is typical. See the monitor
>> instruction booklet for a more precise accounting.

>
> Mine blinks (every two seconds) green lights during snoozing mode (after
> two hours of idleness).
>
> I looked at the monitor's thick Getting Started manual (includes many
> foreign languages), and it mentioned nothing about power saving modes.
> How dumb.
>
> I did notice the manual said monitor driver and even a CD-ROM is
> included for it. I do recall installing it years ago, but I noticed
> Windows XP said "Default Monitor (winseset) on ALL-IN-WONDER 9800
> SERIES" (dated 11/11/2002 from MS). Do you think this is a problem?
> Also, I forgot to mention that I use a Belkin KVM (2-ports) but I don't
> think this should be a problem.
>
> The monitor does work well and does sleep. It does take a while to come
> back from its snooze mode as if I turned it off.

One more thing: It is also hooked up to an APC UPS (Back-UPS 650), but
then I doubt this make a difference.
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On 4/3/2004 6:58 AM PT, dev wrote:

>>>>Is it normal for my Samsung 17" SyncMaster 763MB CRT monitor to still
>>>>create some heat when it is off from Windows XP's power management? I
>>>>thought when monitor is off, it is like turning off manually (power
>>>>button) except the blinking power light (sleep). I notice my room is
>>>>still very warm in this power saving mode as if it was on. And no, I do
>>>>not use any fancy OpenGL screen savers for my ATI Radeon 9800 AIW (128
>>>>MB) and Athlon 2200+ CPU to stress on that can cook my room easily.
>>>
>>>In flashing yellow mode, the monitor is "snoozing", but not totally
>>>powered down. 3 to 5 watt consumption is typical. See the monitor
>>>instruction booklet for a more precise accounting.

>>
>>Mine blinks (every two seconds) green lights during snoozing mode (after
>>two hours of idleness).
>>
>>I looked at the monitor's thick Getting Started manual (includes many
>>foreign languages), and it mentioned nothing about power saving modes.
>>How dumb.
>>
>>I did notice the manual said monitor driver and even a CD-ROM is
>>included for it. I do recall installing it years ago, but I noticed
>>Windows XP said "Default Monitor (winseset) on ALL-IN-WONDER 9800
>>SERIES" (dated 11/11/2002 from MS). Do you think this is a problem?
>>Also, I forgot to mention that I use a Belkin KVM (2-ports) but I don't
>>think this should be a problem.
>>
>>The monitor does work well and does sleep. It does take a while to come
>>back from its snooze mode as if I turned it off.

>
> Strikes me as normal operation...and what I see here when monitor awakens.

Yeah, it is. It is just the heat part sounds strange. I woke up and my
room was really warm. I touched the monitor's top (vents) and it was
warm. I fell asleep after midnight and woke up at about 5am. That should
be enough to cool down, don't you think? I have seen this happened a few
times in the past with monitoring going to sleep by itself. My room is
currently at about 77 degrees(F).

I found the PDF manual:
http://www.samsungusa.com/SamsungUSA...0104/765MB.pdf ... On
page 46, it says blinking green is in power-off mode EPA/ENERGY 2000 at
less than 2.6W. Weird.

Oh well, maybe I should just ignore it. :I
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hear of king ants." --Sean Bentley
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The monitor is only off when you physically press the on/off switch to turn
it off. Otherwise it is in power saving mode, and uses a small amount of
current to keep the filament of the CRT warmed up. This allows you to see
video a lot faster than if you were to turn the monitor fully off.

Hint: T.V. sets have had this feature for 20-30 years now. It's nothing new!
It used to be called "Instant On", when it was a new feature. Now they all
have it so it is not even mentioned any longer.

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"Ant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hello.
>
> Is it normal for my Samsung 17" SyncMaster 763MB CRT monitor to still
> create some heat when it is off from Windows XP's power management? I
> thought when monitor is off, it is like turning off manually (power
> button) except the blinking power light (sleep). I notice my room is still
> very warm in this power saving mode as if it was on. And no, I do not use
> any fancy OpenGL screen savers for my ATI Radeon 9800 AIW (128 MB) and
> Athlon 2200+ CPU to stress on that can cook my room easily.
>
> Thank you in advance.
> --
> "Maybe it's like an ant hive..." "Bees man, bees have hives." "You know
> what I mean. It's like one female that runs the whole show." "Yes, the
> queen." "Yeah the mamma. She is bad*ss, man. I mean big." "These things
> ain't ants estupido." "I know that." --ALIENS movie
> /\___/\
> / /\ /\ \ Phillip Pi (Ant); The Ant Farm: http://antfarm.ma.cx
> | |o o| | E-mail: [email protected]NT or [email protected]
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I believe you are experiencing normal behavior. One thing you can do is go
to samsung's web-site and download the XP driver for your monitor. I've had
my current Sony CPD-200SX since 1996 and it produces heat when it sleeps.
My girlfriend's Dell monitor does the same thing. The home office is nice
and toastie in the morning...

- carl

"Ant" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hello.
>
> Is it normal for my Samsung 17" SyncMaster 763MB CRT monitor to still
> create some heat when it is off from Windows XP's power management? I
> thought when monitor is off, it is like turning off manually (power
> button) except the blinking power light (sleep). I notice my room is
> still very warm in this power saving mode as if it was on. And no, I do
> not use any fancy OpenGL screen savers for my ATI Radeon 9800 AIW (128
> MB) and Athlon 2200+ CPU to stress on that can cook my room easily.
>
> Thank you in advance.
> --
> "Maybe it's like an ant hive..." "Bees man, bees have hives." "You know
> what I mean. It's like one female that runs the whole show." "Yes, the
> queen." "Yeah the mamma. She is bad*ss, man. I mean big." "These things
> ain't ants estupido." "I know that." --ALIENS movie
> /\___/\
> / /\ /\ \ Phillip Pi (Ant); The Ant Farm: http://antfarm.ma.cx
> | |o o| | E-mail: [email protected]NT or [email protected]
> \ _ / Remove ANT if replying by e-mail from a newsgroup.
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