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Re: Is this Vista mobile device support really this useless?

Posted: 12-29-2006, 07:32 PM
P Cause
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Well, if you connect via USB and then open the WDC you can click on sync,
which is below the big picture of a device on the left.

I completely agree with you that WMDC is a disaster. It doesn't
automatically sync. There is no Bluetooth activesync provider, etc. Vert
awkward and clumsy. Maybe the final will make it all good, but the B3
certainly doesn't give on hope. I never thought I'd say this, but "Bring
back Activesync".

"szlevi" <szlevi@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:59C56CD8-8011-4AED-9D35-AFD82F9A3D1E@microsoft.com...
> OK, rant first...
> I don't care if it's an offense but this is clearly ridiculous: with my
> home
> XP Pro when I connect my TyTN via USB and I am immediately able to browse
> my
> phone, transfer files and so on and so forth. (I don't waste time with the
> useless sync functionality - I think the whole ActiveSync by default is a
> completely wrong approach which just got worse with its utterly
> counterintuitive UI, menus and settings but it's just a side issue, I'm
> fine
> as long as direct USB connection works.)
> At work I just upgraded to test drive Vista Ultimate and nothing like this
> happens when I connect my phone. (I upgraded from XP pro which worked the
> same way as my home XP does.) I hear some connection sound and nothing.
> Device doesn't appear, nothing. After few minutes of "nothing" I found
> this
> site - I tried Bluetooth and same result, built-in Help is totally
> worthless
> - and I downloaded and installed WMDC B3. Now I have this Sync Center and
> WMDC but alas, still no device.
> Let's start from basics, I though and I tried to locate what services this
> crap requires - and I learned there's no such help literature whatsoever
> at
> MS.
>
> Now after 15+ minutes I'm out of patience and time - if anybody has any
> good
> idea where to start with this useless crap I'd really appreciate it,
> thanks
> in advance!
>
> PS: As a side note what's beyond me is how on Earth in this much-touted
> "next-gen" and "business OS" basic services like this became not only less
> obvious to use, even less transparent than before but actually more
> complicated and completely not supported in Help files? (Whoever says
> there's
> Help that person has no idea what are these "Help" files contain.)
> I oversee ~200 Windows workstations and servers and it just blows my mind
> how could be this very-very basic thing so counterintuitive, backed with
> this
> useless Help library, how is that this
> click-here-then-click-there-click-here-then-click-there-then-setup-then-push-this-then-wait
> orgy apparently became less meaningful and even more clunky than before...
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Robert Pendell
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Re: Is this Vista mobile device support really this useless?
Posted: 12-30-2006, 06:27 PM
I actually agree with you there. Here is a bug I found with my Cingular
8125 PDA phone. It uses ActiveSync and note that it works fine with
that on XP MCE. I was using the USB cable in Vista since there is no
Bluetooth support on my desktop. Also I found that the file listing in
Explorer isn't nearly as complete in Vista as it was in XP.

It's in bug report like format so...

I have been unable to transfer data to a PDA/Smartphone based device
without the transfer stalling if the file is larger than about 3MB. It
may occur with even smaller files however the really small ones (under
300KB) usually go through. The PDA/Smartphone device is connected via
USB and I tried using both Windows Explorer and the Windows Mobile
Device Center (which replaced ActiveSync). It will get part way then
stall. Eventually it will state that the connection was lost to the
device. I tested the same exact device using USB on my laptop running
XP MCE and ActiveSync 4.2 and there were no issues at all. The device
is the Cingular 8125 PDA phone.

Expected Result: Files transfer without stalling
Actual Result: File stalling occurs within the first 25% of the transfer
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Re: Is this Vista mobile device support really this useless?
Posted: 03-18-2007, 07:54 AM
I couldn't agree with this thread more. We pay for this misery and there is
no excuse why this shouldn't work.

Robert I have the exact same problem. If you get it resolved please let me
know. I have seen some mention of PC to USB change but on my 8125 that
option is not available. Why do I have to spend hours getting this crap to
work. I think If I have to pay for their software they should pay for my
labor in troubleshooting.

Ray

"Robert Pendell" wrote:
> I actually agree with you there. Here is a bug I found with my Cingular
> 8125 PDA phone. It uses ActiveSync and note that it works fine with
> that on XP MCE. I was using the USB cable in Vista since there is no
> Bluetooth support on my desktop. Also I found that the file listing in
> Explorer isn't nearly as complete in Vista as it was in XP.
>
> It's in bug report like format so...
>
> I have been unable to transfer data to a PDA/Smartphone based device
> without the transfer stalling if the file is larger than about 3MB. It
> may occur with even smaller files however the really small ones (under
> 300KB) usually go through. The PDA/Smartphone device is connected via
> USB and I tried using both Windows Explorer and the Windows Mobile
> Device Center (which replaced ActiveSync). It will get part way then
> stall. Eventually it will state that the connection was lost to the
> device. I tested the same exact device using USB on my laptop running
> XP MCE and ActiveSync 4.2 and there were no issues at all. The device
> is the Cingular 8125 PDA phone.
>
> Expected Result: Files transfer without stalling
> Actual Result: File stalling occurs within the first 25% of the transfer
>
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