live onecare turns windows defender off?

Posted: 03-22-2007, 05:36 PM
Hi,

I noticed that live onecare turns windows defender off. Is this normal?

thanks
hugo
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RE: live onecare turns windows defender off?
Posted: 03-22-2007, 08:19 PM
Yes, it is.
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"hugo" wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I noticed that live onecare turns windows defender off. Is this normal?
>
> thanks
> hugo
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Posted: 03-22-2007, 09:32 PM
Yes it is perfectly normal

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"hugo" <ydnagu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
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> I noticed that live onecare turns windows defender off. Is this normal?
>
> thanks
> hugo
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Re: live onecare turns windows defender off?
Posted: 03-23-2007, 12:25 AM
yes, I learned that and it also turns of windows firewall.

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> "hugo" <ydnagu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I noticed that live onecare turns windows defender off. Is this normal?
>>
>> thanks
>> hugo
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Posted: 03-23-2007, 01:43 AM
JerzyMarian <jerzymarian@discussions.microsofrt.com> wrote:
>Yes, it is.
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>"hugo" wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> I noticed that live onecare turns windows defender off. Is this normal?
>>
>> thanks
>> hugo
For the record, this confuses many people. We've passed feedback on to the
OneCare team that they really need to provide some sort of dialog about this
within OneCare.
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Re: live onecare turns windows defender off?
Posted: 03-23-2007, 03:21 PM
Windows One Care also installs a new 2 way firewall in place of the Windows
1 way firewall.

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> yes, I learned that and it also turns of windows firewall.
>
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Re: live onecare turns windows defender off?
Posted: 03-23-2007, 04:27 PM
The Defender Team dropped the ball on this bad, real bad. Their blog shows
they know about it but still have not acted to help avoid user confusion.

An independent Defender install is pushed by Microsoft. Then Microsoft
integrated a different version into LiveOneCare. That new utility turns off
the independent Defender. All without any notice to the user that it is
LiveOneCare performing this act. It behaves just like a worm or a virus;
turning off the user's security utilities. Many hours have been wasted by
users because of this failure to communicate what is going on to the user.
In my opinion heads should roll.

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Re: live onecare turns windows defender off?
Posted: 03-23-2007, 05:54 PM
"hugo" <ydnagu@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> I noticed that live onecare turns windows defender off. Is this normal?
>
> thanks
> hugo

Could this be the reason of 329 Critical objects discovered by
Ad-Aware SE in my Vista Ult?

Jdr

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Re: live onecare turns windows defender off?
Posted: 03-23-2007, 06:20 PM
So here I am trying desperatly to turm on Firewall and defender each time
Live OneCare turns it off - what was I wrong? Better to leave Live OneCare 2
way firewall on??? and Defender??? I suppose I can keep turning it on.

Wish MS team would let you know, like CA, and most of the other Virus
Protection software. There I thought I was being loyal.

Bit tired - do not need heart attack knee jerk' reactions to warnings!!

Hey, but Vista is great - been ther since Beta, then Beta 2 and RC 1 and now
Unlitame - yep very nice.

"Richard" wrote:
> The Defender Team dropped the ball on this bad, real bad. Their blog shows
> they know about it but still have not acted to help avoid user confusion.
>
> An independent Defender install is pushed by Microsoft. Then Microsoft
> integrated a different version into LiveOneCare. That new utility turns off
> the independent Defender. All without any notice to the user that it is
> LiveOneCare performing this act. It behaves just like a worm or a virus;
> turning off the user's security utilities. Many hours have been wasted by
> users because of this failure to communicate what is going on to the user.
> In my opinion heads should roll.
>
> Richard.
>
>
>
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Re: live onecare turns windows defender off?
Posted: 03-23-2007, 08:24 PM
Windows firewall in Vista is two way, not one way. What are you actually
getting for your OneCare subscription? In a nut shell, Anti Virus. Vista
already contains a firewall, windows defender and windows defragmenter. What
other options OneCare offers isn't worth having.

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"JerryM (ID)" <jerrym526@msn.org> wrote in message
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> Windows One Care also installs a new 2 way firewall in place of the
> Windows 1 way firewall.
>
> "Amrykid" <amrykid@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:87F67DCA-F236-491C-BA3D-A2C30AF0B75B@microsoft.com...
>> yes, I learned that and it also turns of windows firewall.
>>
> <Snip>
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