MM doesn't accept *.mp4 Videos - although codec is installed!

Posted: 07-13-2005, 10:45 AM
MM doesn't accept *.mp4 Videos- although codec is installed. WMP plays the
videos, WME accepts them - only MM does't take it - it doesn't even try (you
have to select "all files" in the import dialog, otherwise the mp4-files
aren't even shown and then it just says "wrong file type")

unbelievable! there are more and more flshcard camcorders, which use the mp4
file format!

Q: when will MS fix that?
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Rehan
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Posted: 07-13-2005, 11:55 AM
ingobert wrote:
> MM doesn't accept *.mp4 Videos- although codec is installed. WMP plays the
> videos, WME accepts them - only MM does't take it - it doesn't even try (you
> have to select "all files" in the import dialog, otherwise the mp4-files
> aren't even shown and then it just says "wrong file type")
>
> unbelievable! there are more and more flshcard camcorders, which use the mp4
> file format!
>
> Q: when will MS fix that?
Can you send me a small sample of the video together with the codec. I
wam interested to find out a way to resolve such issues.


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Re: MM doesn't accept *.mp4 Videos - although codec is installed!
Posted: 07-13-2005, 12:38 PM
Hello,

It has been a problem with Movie Maker from the very start. Their is
little likely hood thatr the issue will be fixed in the immediate future.
Your solution is moderatly easy. Take a trip to www.videohelp.com/convert
and check out the discussion papers and free software for converting to a
WMV or maybe an AVI file. videohelp.com is just about the best source on the
web for solving your type of problem

Be aware though that you have almost certainly been invited to break the
copyright laws by sending a Codec to the person calling himself
rehan......Very Risky....you might want to report him to the company
creating your software.....sounds to me that they may be interested in
hearing about such a blatant infringement of the copyright laws....

Best Wishes.....John Kelly
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"ingobert" <ingobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> MM doesn't accept *.mp4 Videos- although codec is installed. WMP plays the
> videos, WME accepts them - only MM does't take it - it doesn't even try
> (you
> have to select "all files" in the import dialog, otherwise the mp4-files
> aren't even shown and then it just says "wrong file type")
>
> unbelievable! there are more and more flshcard camcorders, which use the
> mp4
> file format!
>
> Q: when will MS fix that?

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ingobert
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Re: MM doesn't accept *.mp4 Videos - although codec is installed!
Posted: 07-13-2005, 12:59 PM


"John Kelly" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> It has been a problem with Movie Maker from the very start. Their is
> little likely hood thatr the issue will be fixed in the immediate future.
> Your solution is moderatly easy. Take a trip to www.videohelp.com/convert
> and check out the discussion papers and free software for converting to a
> WMV or maybe an AVI file.
*** As i wrote, WMEncoder accepts the files, so I could that. But I won't,
cause it's a hell of a work AND an additional quality loss.

I'm not a programmer, but this MM bugfix shoud be very easy for MS! Mabe
someone should tell them, that the number of mp4-flashcard-camcorders is
increasing every day...

But thanks anyway
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John Kelly
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Posted: 07-13-2005, 01:05 PM
Hello,

Yes I agree with you 100%. One of the reasons for not having Quicktime
as a properly recognised option within Windows is due to the quicktime
people (I am informed) not wanting to give away all of their hard work.
Their have been court room battles between the two in the past. The present
state of affairs is largely due to that... For myself, if I had wqorked hard
on what a lot of people consider to be a superior product I would not be
very keen on allowing some other company the rights to do with it as they
wished.....thats not on.

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"ingobert" <ingobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> "John Kelly" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> It has been a problem with Movie Maker from the very start. Their is
>> little likely hood thatr the issue will be fixed in the immediate future.
>> Your solution is moderatly easy. Take a trip to www.videohelp.com/convert
>> and check out the discussion papers and free software for converting to a
>> WMV or maybe an AVI file.
>
> *** As i wrote, WMEncoder accepts the files, so I could that. But I won't,
> cause it's a hell of a work AND an additional quality loss.
>
> I'm not a programmer, but this MM bugfix shoud be very easy for MS! Mabe
> someone should tell them, that the number of mp4-flashcard-camcorders is
> increasing every day...
>
> But thanks anyway

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John Kelly
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Re: MM doesn't accept *.mp4 Videos - although codec is installed!
Posted: 07-13-2005, 01:10 PM
Hello,

Just did a quick search and came across what looks like a good resource
for you...have a look at this...

http://www.mpeg.org/MPEG/index.html

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"ingobert" <ingobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
> "John Kelly" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> It has been a problem with Movie Maker from the very start. Their is
>> little likely hood thatr the issue will be fixed in the immediate future.
>> Your solution is moderatly easy. Take a trip to www.videohelp.com/convert
>> and check out the discussion papers and free software for converting to a
>> WMV or maybe an AVI file.
>
> *** As i wrote, WMEncoder accepts the files, so I could that. But I won't,
> cause it's a hell of a work AND an additional quality loss.
>
> I'm not a programmer, but this MM bugfix shoud be very easy for MS! Mabe
> someone should tell them, that the number of mp4-flashcard-camcorders is
> increasing every day...
>
> But thanks anyway

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John Kelly
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Re: MM doesn't accept *.mp4 Videos - although codec is installed!
Posted: 07-13-2005, 01:24 PM
Hello again,

Here is a link that might be the final solution for you. The options at the
bottom of the page seem to be the most relevent.

http://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?...or+List+Guides

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"ingobert" <ingobert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "John Kelly" wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> It has been a problem with Movie Maker from the very start. Their is
>> little likely hood thatr the issue will be fixed in the immediate future.
>> Your solution is moderatly easy. Take a trip to www.videohelp.com/convert
>> and check out the discussion papers and free software for converting to a
>> WMV or maybe an AVI file.
>
> *** As i wrote, WMEncoder accepts the files, so I could that. But I won't,
> cause it's a hell of a work AND an additional quality loss.
>
> I'm not a programmer, but this MM bugfix shoud be very easy for MS! Mabe
> someone should tell them, that the number of mp4-flashcard-camcorders is
> increasing every day...
>
> But thanks anyway

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Re: MM doesn't accept *.mp4 Videos - although codec is installed!
Posted: 07-13-2005, 01:28 PM
ingobert wrote:

>
> *** As i wrote, WMEncoder accepts the files, so I could that. But I won't,
> cause it's a hell of a work AND an additional quality loss.
>
> I'm not a programmer, but this MM bugfix shoud be very easy for MS! Mabe
> someone should tell them, that the number of mp4-flashcard-camcorders is
> increasing every day...
>
Since WME and WMP are able to work with the file, I suspect the only
thing restricting Movie Maker to accept the file may be some early check
for the extesnion (.mp4). This is a long shot but you may be able to
coerce WMM to accept the file by just changing the file extesnion such
as from 'movie.mp4' to 'movie.mp4.avi'.

This trick seems to work with most Real and Quicktime movies too, (after
one installs a Direct Show codec for these formats rather than the
official one. Search for "Real Alternative" and QuickTime Alternative").

Let us know how it goes.

Regards

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Re: MM doesn't accept *.mp4 Videos - although codec is installed!
Posted: 07-13-2005, 03:20 PM
> Since WME and WMP are able to work with the file, I suspect the only
> thing restricting Movie Maker to accept the file may be some early check
> for the extesnion (.mp4). This is a long shot but you may be able to
> coerce WMM to accept the file by just changing the file extesnion such
> as from 'movie.mp4' to 'movie.mp4.avi'.
*** thanks, I had the same idea ( I changed to "movie.avi"). I tried your
version too, MM tries to open it, but then says: file is invalid or damaged
(probably because it takes it as an avi file)

thx!
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Re: MM doesn't accept *.mp4 Videos - although codec is installed!
Posted: 07-13-2005, 03:28 PM
thx again, but I would need a Program to edit AND convert the mp4-videos in
an effective file format (divx, wmv...)
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