MM2 & Memory ??

Posted: 07-26-2003, 11:23 PM
Being a veteran of MM2 issues and problems I have remebered every word of
Papajohn's website backwards (:-) - thanks PPJ). However, I am trying to
clarify how MM2 works in a little more detail when saving projects.

My issue is I have 256MB RAM and whilst I have saved AVI files of 2.5GB in
the past MM2 freezes if I try to save a file more than 16MB in size. I am
aware of the normal work-arounds & MS knowledge Base articles.

When MM2 is loaded with my project (5 mins long - 89MB recommended file save
size) I have 70MB RAM available. When trying to save this reduces to ~ 20MB.
Above 16MB and MM2 crashes with % completion in proportion to the size of
the target file (ie 20MB gets 38%, 40MB 20%, etc).

So I probably need more RAM although I (& believe PPJ) have saved larger
movies with 256MB RAM. I have ruled H/W out due to the precise reproductive
nature of the issue. So anyone know how MM2 uses RAM as it is saving? Anyone
know how to validate pagefile is working properly?

thanks,


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PapaJohn \(MVP\)
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Re: MM2 & Memory ??
Posted: 07-26-2003, 11:34 PM
Great Olu, I've been looking for some help on my new Problem Solving...
Can't Save a Movie page. Any and all of your comments about it are welcomed.

Join us in the SimplyDV.com MM2 forum also, where we have an ongoing thread
going - Another 'stops saving problem...', where we are exploring the
relationship between project complexity and memory. There's a link to the
forum at the bottom of the Online... Forums page.

The length of the timeline isn't the issue. I've saved a 22 hour movie on a
laptop with 144MB of actual RAM. It's probably the complexity issue - but
the complexity issue is - UR!!! Oh!!! complex.

I think chalking up a saving problem to complexity and suggesting more RAM
is too simplistic an answer. But, I have a long way to go yet to pull
together that new page. But, it's off to a good start.



PapaJohn




"Olu" <oluodeniyi@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Being a veteran of MM2 issues and problems I have remebered every word of
> Papajohn's website backwards (:-) - thanks PPJ). However, I am trying to
> clarify how MM2 works in a little more detail when saving projects.
>
> My issue is I have 256MB RAM and whilst I have saved AVI files of 2.5GB in
> the past MM2 freezes if I try to save a file more than 16MB in size. I am
> aware of the normal work-arounds & MS knowledge Base articles.
>
> When MM2 is loaded with my project (5 mins long - 89MB recommended file
save
> size) I have 70MB RAM available. When trying to save this reduces to ~
20MB.
> Above 16MB and MM2 crashes with % completion in proportion to the size of
> the target file (ie 20MB gets 38%, 40MB 20%, etc).
>
> So I probably need more RAM although I (& believe PPJ) have saved larger
> movies with 256MB RAM. I have ruled H/W out due to the precise
reproductive
> nature of the issue. So anyone know how MM2 uses RAM as it is saving?
Anyone
> know how to validate pagefile is working properly?
>
> thanks,
>
>

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Olu
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Re: MM2 & Memory ??
Posted: 07-27-2003, 09:05 AM
I've registered for SimplyDV.com forum and be checking it outlater today.

As a quick test I deleted some of the transitions (over half) and completion
for recommended format rose to 19% from 7%.....although the file size
incresed from 89MB to 98MB ????

Later on the forum.

"PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
news:vi60g1mhbrjg8c@corp.supernews.com...
> Great Olu, I've been looking for some help on my new Problem Solving...
> Can't Save a Movie page. Any and all of your comments about it are
welcomed.
>
> Join us in the SimplyDV.com MM2 forum also, where we have an ongoing
thread
> going - Another 'stops saving problem...', where we are exploring the
> relationship between project complexity and memory. There's a link to the
> forum at the bottom of the Online... Forums page.
>
> The length of the timeline isn't the issue. I've saved a 22 hour movie on
a
> laptop with 144MB of actual RAM. It's probably the complexity issue - but
> the complexity issue is - UR!!! Oh!!! complex.
>
> I think chalking up a saving problem to complexity and suggesting more RAM
> is too simplistic an answer. But, I have a long way to go yet to pull
> together that new page. But, it's off to a good start.
>
>
>
> PapaJohn
>
>
>
>
> "Olu" <oluodeniyi@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:99DUa.52205$xd5.3060651@stones.force9.net...
> > Being a veteran of MM2 issues and problems I have remebered every word
of
> > Papajohn's website backwards (:-) - thanks PPJ). However, I am trying to
> > clarify how MM2 works in a little more detail when saving projects.
> >
> > My issue is I have 256MB RAM and whilst I have saved AVI files of 2.5GB
in
> > the past MM2 freezes if I try to save a file more than 16MB in size. I
am
> > aware of the normal work-arounds & MS knowledge Base articles.
> >
> > When MM2 is loaded with my project (5 mins long - 89MB recommended file
> save
> > size) I have 70MB RAM available. When trying to save this reduces to ~
> 20MB.
> > Above 16MB and MM2 crashes with % completion in proportion to the size
of
> > the target file (ie 20MB gets 38%, 40MB 20%, etc).
> >
> > So I probably need more RAM although I (& believe PPJ) have saved larger
> > movies with 256MB RAM. I have ruled H/W out due to the precise
> reproductive
> > nature of the issue. So anyone know how MM2 uses RAM as it is saving?
> Anyone
> > know how to validate pagefile is working properly?
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> >
>
>

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Olu
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Re: MM2 & Memory ??
Posted: 07-29-2003, 08:03 PM
FYI just upgraded the RAM 768MB and although the save progresses further
(21% for 89MB) it still freezes before finishing.

A friend's PC who has a different Motherboard but same ATI graphics card and
512 MB RAM has no problems saving THE SAME project with MM2.

It would appear there are more mysteries yet to be found with MM2!!!!!!


"Olu" <oluodeniyi@totalise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:99DUa.52205$xd5.3060651@stones.force9.net...
> Being a veteran of MM2 issues and problems I have remebered every word of
> Papajohn's website backwards (:-) - thanks PPJ). However, I am trying to
> clarify how MM2 works in a little more detail when saving projects.
>
> My issue is I have 256MB RAM and whilst I have saved AVI files of 2.5GB in
> the past MM2 freezes if I try to save a file more than 16MB in size. I am
> aware of the normal work-arounds & MS knowledge Base articles.
>
> When MM2 is loaded with my project (5 mins long - 89MB recommended file
save
> size) I have 70MB RAM available. When trying to save this reduces to ~
20MB.
> Above 16MB and MM2 crashes with % completion in proportion to the size of
> the target file (ie 20MB gets 38%, 40MB 20%, etc).
>
> So I probably need more RAM although I (& believe PPJ) have saved larger
> movies with 256MB RAM. I have ruled H/W out due to the precise
reproductive
> nature of the issue. So anyone know how MM2 uses RAM as it is saving?
Anyone
> know how to validate pagefile is working properly?
>
> thanks,
>
>

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