moviemaker 2 locks up during "saving movie"

> An update on this:
>
> The middle 30 minutes of movie "saved" taking about 1 hour to do this. So

> thought that was good news. I tried the first 30 minute segment and got

> the last 2 minutes and then got a lockup. Disappointing. So only the
> middle saved correctly. Does this relate to something in the file? It
> would seem though that there is nothing in common between the beginning

> last movie segments that would cause them to lock up - they probably came
> from different original avi files.
>
> alan
>
>
> "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OIU%23qOzVEHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

> > I have been using MM2 several times, most recently in February 2004 and

> have

> > had no difficulty saving movie files in AVI settings for later rendering
> > with Sonic MyDVD. My latest movie file ,about 90 minutes long, causes

> > computer to lock up after 30 percent or so completion of 'saving movie"

> > the AVI settings. Previous movies were about 1 hour or so.
> >
> > I have lastest drivers on my XP home system, and repeated this twice

> with

> > the same results, locking at about the same partial completion point.

> Then

> > I defragmented the drive containing the movie files and the same thing
> > happened again, at 31 % completed. I read something about trying to

> break

> > the movie into 3 separate projects, which I did, and I started with the
> > last 30 minutes of footage, but locked after 20% complete. My movie
> > consists of 3 avi files which were taken from 3 mini DV tapes and have

> only

> > titles inserted throughout the movie, ahead of particular scenes. No
> > music - only the original sound from the movie. I had thought perhaps
> > there was some part of the movie file the MM2 does not like, which is

> I

> > started from the end. But this did not work so I am really puzzled. I

> will

> > try the middle portion next.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
> >
> >

>
>
> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
>
>

> Alan,
>
> If you haven't seen the Problem Solving > Can't Save a Movie page of my
> website, it might help to browse it... but you seem to be doing fine in
> figuring it out.
>
> I don't know enough about your computer or project to make any more specific
> suggestions... and my general guidance is on the website page.
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>
> .
> "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:%23XfJ8U0VEHA.2928@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> > An update on this:
> >
> > The middle 30 minutes of movie "saved" taking about 1 hour to do this. So

> I

> > thought that was good news. I tried the first 30 minute segment and got

> to

> > the last 2 minutes and then got a lockup. Disappointing. So only the
> > middle saved correctly. Does this relate to something in the file? It
> > would seem though that there is nothing in common between the beginning

> and

> > last movie segments that would cause them to lock up - they probably came
> > from different original avi files.
> >
> > alan
> >
> >
> > "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:OIU%23qOzVEHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

> > > I have been using MM2 several times, most recently in February 2004 and

> have

> > > had no difficulty saving movie files in AVI settings for later rendering
> > > with Sonic MyDVD. My latest movie file ,about 90 minutes long, causes

> the

> > > computer to lock up after 30 percent or so completion of 'saving movie"

> in

> > > the AVI settings. Previous movies were about 1 hour or so.
> > >
> > > I have lastest drivers on my XP home system, and repeated this twice

> with

> > > the same results, locking at about the same partial completion point.

> Then

> > > I defragmented the drive containing the movie files and the same thing
> > > happened again, at 31 % completed. I read something about trying to

> break

> > > the movie into 3 separate projects, which I did, and I started with the
> > > last 30 minutes of footage, but locked after 20% complete. My movie
> > > consists of 3 avi files which were taken from 3 mini DV tapes and have

> only

> > > titles inserted throughout the movie, ahead of particular scenes. No
> > > music - only the original sound from the movie. I had thought perhaps
> > > there was some part of the movie file the MM2 does not like, which is

> why
> I

> > > started from the end. But this did not work so I am really puzzled. I

> will

> > > try the middle portion next.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
> > >
> > >

> >
> >
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
> >
> >

> Thanks PapaJohn - I will look at your website again. One question -
> could I be seeing an issue if I have too many simple transitions (
> just a fade) between clips? Other than that, and some simple effects
> before a title insert such as fade in from black there are no other
> special effects. I wonder if the number of such effects can pose a
> limitation - I have 1.7 Ghz intel chip with 256 mg RAM and plenty of
> hard drive space. Also - could there be some aspect of the avi movie
> file that the MM2 does not "like"? I cannot imagine what that could
> be but thought I would ask.
>
> alan
>
>
>
>
> "PapaJohn \(MVP\)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message

> > Alan,
> >
> > If you haven't seen the Problem Solving > Can't Save a Movie page of my
> > website, it might help to browse it... but you seem to be doing fine in
> > figuring it out.
> >
> > I don't know enough about your computer or project to make any more

> > suggestions... and my general guidance is on the website page.
> > --
> > PapaJohn
> >
> > Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> >
> > .
> > "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23XfJ8U0VEHA.2928@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> > > An update on this:
> > >
> > > The middle 30 minutes of movie "saved" taking about 1 hour to do this.

> > I

> > > thought that was good news. I tried the first 30 minute segment and

> > to

> > > the last 2 minutes and then got a lockup. Disappointing. So only

> > > middle saved correctly. Does this relate to something in the file?

> > > would seem though that there is nothing in common between the

> > and

> > > last movie segments that would cause them to lock up - they probably

> > > from different original avi files.
> > >
> > > alan
> > >
> > >
> > > "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OIU%23qOzVEHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > I have been using MM2 several times, most recently in February 2004

> > have

> > > > had no difficulty saving movie files in AVI settings for later

> > > > with Sonic MyDVD. My latest movie file ,about 90 minutes long,

> > the

> > > > computer to lock up after 30 percent or so completion of 'saving

> > in

> > > > the AVI settings. Previous movies were about 1 hour or so.
> > > >
> > > > I have lastest drivers on my XP home system, and repeated this

> > with

> > > > the same results, locking at about the same partial completion

> > Then

> > > > I defragmented the drive containing the movie files and the same

> > > > happened again, at 31 % completed. I read something about trying

> > break

> > > > the movie into 3 separate projects, which I did, and I started with

> > > > last 30 minutes of footage, but locked after 20% complete. My movie
> > > > consists of 3 avi files which were taken from 3 mini DV tapes and

> > only

> > > > titles inserted throughout the movie, ahead of particular scenes.

> > > > music - only the original sound from the movie. I had thought

> > > > there was some part of the movie file the MM2 does not like, which

> > why
> > I

> > > > started from the end. But this did not work so I am really puzzled.

> > will

> > > > try the middle portion next.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
> > >
> > >

> Thanks PapaJohn - I will look at your website again. One question -
> could I be seeing an issue if I have too many simple transitions (
> just a fade) between clips? Other than that, and some simple effects
> before a title insert such as fade in from black there are no other
> special effects. I wonder if the number of such effects can pose a
> limitation - I have 1.7 Ghz intel chip with 256 mg RAM and plenty of
> hard drive space. Also - could there be some aspect of the avi movie
> file that the MM2 does not "like"? I cannot imagine what that could
> be but thought I would ask.
>
> alan
>
>
>
>
> "PapaJohn \(MVP\)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message

> > Alan,
> >
> > If you haven't seen the Problem Solving > Can't Save a Movie page of my
> > website, it might help to browse it... but you seem to be doing fine in
> > figuring it out.
> >
> > I don't know enough about your computer or project to make any more

> > suggestions... and my general guidance is on the website page.
> > --
> > PapaJohn
> >
> > Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> >
> > .
> > "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23XfJ8U0VEHA.2928@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

> > > An update on this:
> > >
> > > The middle 30 minutes of movie "saved" taking about 1 hour to do this.

> > I

> > > thought that was good news. I tried the first 30 minute segment and

> > to

> > > the last 2 minutes and then got a lockup. Disappointing. So only

> > > middle saved correctly. Does this relate to something in the file?

> > > would seem though that there is nothing in common between the

> > and

> > > last movie segments that would cause them to lock up - they probably

> > > from different original avi files.
> > >
> > > alan
> > >
> > >
> > > "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OIU%23qOzVEHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > I have been using MM2 several times, most recently in February 2004

> > have

> > > > had no difficulty saving movie files in AVI settings for later

> > > > with Sonic MyDVD. My latest movie file ,about 90 minutes long,

> > the

> > > > computer to lock up after 30 percent or so completion of 'saving

> > in

> > > > the AVI settings. Previous movies were about 1 hour or so.
> > > >
> > > > I have lastest drivers on my XP home system, and repeated this

> > with

> > > > the same results, locking at about the same partial completion

> > Then

> > > > I defragmented the drive containing the movie files and the same

> > > > happened again, at 31 % completed. I read something about trying

> > break

> > > > the movie into 3 separate projects, which I did, and I started with

> > > > last 30 minutes of footage, but locked after 20% complete. My movie
> > > > consists of 3 avi files which were taken from 3 mini DV tapes and

> > only

> > > > titles inserted throughout the movie, ahead of particular scenes.

> > > > music - only the original sound from the movie. I had thought

> > > > there was some part of the movie file the MM2 does not like, which

> > why
> > I

> > > > started from the end. But this did not work so I am really puzzled.

> > will

> > > > try the middle portion next.
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---
> > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
> > >
> > >

> I agree with Graham about your RAM....
>
> If the AVI movie is Divx encoded, you could be seeing quirks with it that
> are related to codecs. If it's DV-AVI from a camcorder, the I'd guess it
> someplace between your hard drive (tune-up - defrag), virtual memory
> setting, and the 'project complexity'.
>
> The limitation seems to be the balance between your total memory (RAM plus
> virtual) and the project complexity which needs the memory. The thing I
> don't understand yet is why defragging just before saving resolves it many
> times... maybe MM2 needs contiguous hard drive space for the temporary

> it creates as a step toward the final one.
> --
> PapaJohn
>
> Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
>
> .
> "alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:8b544a65.0406210813.30d18495@posting.google.c om...

> > Thanks PapaJohn - I will look at your website again. One question -
> > could I be seeing an issue if I have too many simple transitions (
> > just a fade) between clips? Other than that, and some simple effects
> > before a title insert such as fade in from black there are no other
> > special effects. I wonder if the number of such effects can pose a
> > limitation - I have 1.7 Ghz intel chip with 256 mg RAM and plenty of
> > hard drive space. Also - could there be some aspect of the avi movie
> > file that the MM2 does not "like"? I cannot imagine what that could
> > be but thought I would ask.
> >
> > alan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "PapaJohn \(MVP\)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message

> news:<10dcobgtj42pj59@corp.supernews.com>...

> > > Alan,
> > >
> > > If you haven't seen the Problem Solving > Can't Save a Movie page of

> > > website, it might help to browse it... but you seem to be doing fine

> > > figuring it out.
> > >
> > > I don't know enough about your computer or project to make any more

> specific

> > > suggestions... and my general guidance is on the website page.
> > > --
> > > PapaJohn
> > >
> > > Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> > > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> > >
> > > .
> > > "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23XfJ8U0VEHA.2928@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > An update on this:
> > > >
> > > > The middle 30 minutes of movie "saved" taking about 1 hour to do

> So

> > > I
> > > > thought that was good news. I tried the first 30 minute segment and

> got

> > > to
> > > > the last 2 minutes and then got a lockup. Disappointing. So only

> the

> > > > middle saved correctly. Does this relate to something in the file?

> It

> > > > would seem though that there is nothing in common between the

> beginning

> > > and
> > > > last movie segments that would cause them to lock up - they probably

> came

> > > > from different original avi files.
> > > >
> > > > alan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:OIU%23qOzVEHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > I have been using MM2 several times, most recently in February

> and

> > > have
> > > > > had no difficulty saving movie files in AVI settings for later

> rendering

> > > > > with Sonic MyDVD. My latest movie file ,about 90 minutes long,

> causes

> > > the
> > > > > computer to lock up after 30 percent or so completion of 'saving

> movie"

> > > in
> > > > > the AVI settings. Previous movies were about 1 hour or so.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have lastest drivers on my XP home system, and repeated this

> twice

> > > with
> > > > > the same results, locking at about the same partial completion

> point.

> > > Then
> > > > > I defragmented the drive containing the movie files and the same

> thing

> > > > > happened again, at 31 % completed. I read something about trying

> to

> > > break
> > > > > the movie into 3 separate projects, which I did, and I started

> the

> > > > > last 30 minutes of footage, but locked after 20% complete. My

> > > > > consists of 3 avi files which were taken from 3 mini DV tapes and

> have

> > > only
> > > > > titles inserted throughout the movie, ahead of particular scenes.

> No

> > > > > music - only the original sound from the movie. I had thought

> perhaps

> > > > > there was some part of the movie file the MM2 does not like,

> is

> > > why
> > > I
> > > > > started from the end. But this did not work so I am really

> I

> > > will
> > > > > try the middle portion next.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > Alan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---
> > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > > > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
> > > >
> > > >

>
>

> I am betting on project complexity and will reduce number of transitions.
> Movie was from camcorder, copied onto vhs tape a while back and then onto
> mini dv tape and then captured into computer.
>
> I will try and advise.
>
> alan
>
> "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> news:10de4ed99gsdsb2@corp.supernews.com...

> > I agree with Graham about your RAM....
> >
> > If the AVI movie is Divx encoded, you could be seeing quirks with it

> > are related to codecs. If it's DV-AVI from a camcorder, the I'd guess it
> > someplace between your hard drive (tune-up - defrag), virtual memory
> > setting, and the 'project complexity'.
> >
> > The limitation seems to be the balance between your total memory (RAM

> > virtual) and the project complexity which needs the memory. The thing I
> > don't understand yet is why defragging just before saving resolves it

> > times... maybe MM2 needs contiguous hard drive space for the temporary

> files

> > it creates as a step toward the final one.
> > --
> > PapaJohn
> >
> > Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> >
> > .
> > "alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:8b544a65.0406210813.30d18495@posting.google.c om...

> > > Thanks PapaJohn - I will look at your website again. One question -
> > > could I be seeing an issue if I have too many simple transitions (
> > > just a fade) between clips? Other than that, and some simple effects
> > > before a title insert such as fade in from black there are no other
> > > special effects. I wonder if the number of such effects can pose a
> > > limitation - I have 1.7 Ghz intel chip with 256 mg RAM and plenty of
> > > hard drive space. Also - could there be some aspect of the avi movie
> > > file that the MM2 does not "like"? I cannot imagine what that could
> > > be but thought I would ask.
> > >
> > > alan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "PapaJohn \(MVP\)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message

> > news:<10dcobgtj42pj59@corp.supernews.com>...

> > > > Alan,
> > > >
> > > > If you haven't seen the Problem Solving > Can't Save a Movie page of

> my

> > > > website, it might help to browse it... but you seem to be doing fine

> in

> > > > figuring it out.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know enough about your computer or project to make any more

> > specific

> > > > suggestions... and my general guidance is on the website page.
> > > > --
> > > > PapaJohn
> > > >
> > > > Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> > > > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> > > >
> > > > .
> > > > "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%23XfJ8U0VEHA.2928@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > An update on this:
> > > > >
> > > > > The middle 30 minutes of movie "saved" taking about 1 hour to do

> this.

> > So

> > > > I
> > > > > thought that was good news. I tried the first 30 minute segment

> > got

> > > > to
> > > > > the last 2 minutes and then got a lockup. Disappointing. So

> > the

> > > > > middle saved correctly. Does this relate to something in the

> > It

> > > > > would seem though that there is nothing in common between the

> > beginning

> > > > and
> > > > > last movie segments that would cause them to lock up - they

> > came

> > > > > from different original avi files.
> > > > >
> > > > > alan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:OIU%23qOzVEHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > I have been using MM2 several times, most recently in February

> 2004

> > and

> > > > have
> > > > > > had no difficulty saving movie files in AVI settings for later

> > rendering

> > > > > > with Sonic MyDVD. My latest movie file ,about 90 minutes long,

> > causes

> > > > the
> > > > > > computer to lock up after 30 percent or so completion of 'saving

> > movie"

> > > > in
> > > > > > the AVI settings. Previous movies were about 1 hour or so.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have lastest drivers on my XP home system, and repeated this

> > twice

> > > > with
> > > > > > the same results, locking at about the same partial completion

> > point.

> > > > Then
> > > > > > I defragmented the drive containing the movie files and the same

> > thing

> > > > > > happened again, at 31 % completed. I read something about

> > to

> > > > break
> > > > > > the movie into 3 separate projects, which I did, and I started

> with

> > the

> > > > > > last 30 minutes of footage, but locked after 20% complete. My

> movie

> > > > > > consists of 3 avi files which were taken from 3 mini DV tapes

> > have

> > > > only
> > > > > > titles inserted throughout the movie, ahead of particular

> > No

> > > > > > music - only the original sound from the movie. I had thought

> > perhaps

> > > > > > there was some part of the movie file the MM2 does not like,

> which

> > is

> > > > why
> > > > I
> > > > > > started from the end. But this did not work so I am really

> puzzled.

> > I

> > > > will
> > > > > > try the middle portion next.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > > > > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ---
> > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > > > Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
> > > > >
> > > > >

> >
> >

>
>
> ---
> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004
>
>

> Further on this - complexity is the issue. I reduced the number of
> transitions in a 30 minute segement and instead of taking nearly one hour

> 'save movie" it took 20 minutes - with no lockup.
>
> Thanks to all. The complexity makes a huge difference. I wonder if

> more RAM helps to allow moe complex videos?
> alan
>
>
> "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:OROdVy8VEHA.2844@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

> > I am betting on project complexity and will reduce number of

> > Movie was from camcorder, copied onto vhs tape a while back and then

> > mini dv tape and then captured into computer.
> >
> > I will try and advise.
> >
> > alan
> >
> > "PapaJohn (MVP)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> > news:10de4ed99gsdsb2@corp.supernews.com...

> > > I agree with Graham about your RAM....
> > >
> > > If the AVI movie is Divx encoded, you could be seeing quirks with it

> that

> > > are related to codecs. If it's DV-AVI from a camcorder, the I'd guess

> > > someplace between your hard drive (tune-up - defrag), virtual memory
> > > setting, and the 'project complexity'.
> > >
> > > The limitation seems to be the balance between your total memory (RAM

> plus

> > > virtual) and the project complexity which needs the memory. The thing

> > > don't understand yet is why defragging just before saving resolves it

> many

> > > times... maybe MM2 needs contiguous hard drive space for the temporary

> > files

> > > it creates as a step toward the final one.
> > > --
> > > PapaJohn
> > >
> > > Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> > > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> > >
> > > .
> > > "alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:8b544a65.0406210813.30d18495@posting.google.c om...
> > > > Thanks PapaJohn - I will look at your website again. One

> > > > could I be seeing an issue if I have too many simple transitions (
> > > > just a fade) between clips? Other than that, and some simple

> > > > before a title insert such as fade in from black there are no other
> > > > special effects. I wonder if the number of such effects can pose a
> > > > limitation - I have 1.7 Ghz intel chip with 256 mg RAM and plenty of
> > > > hard drive space. Also - could there be some aspect of the avi

> > > > file that the MM2 does not "like"? I cannot imagine what that could
> > > > be but thought I would ask.
> > > >
> > > > alan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "PapaJohn \(MVP\)" <PapaJohn@CharterMI.net> wrote in message
> > > news:<10dcobgtj42pj59@corp.supernews.com>...
> > > > > Alan,
> > > > >
> > > > > If you haven't seen the Problem Solving > Can't Save a Movie page

> > my

> > > > > website, it might help to browse it... but you seem to be doing

> > in

> > > > > figuring it out.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know enough about your computer or project to make any

> > > specific
> > > > > suggestions... and my general guidance is on the website page.
> > > > > --
> > > > > PapaJohn
> > > > >
> > > > > Movie Maker 2 - www.papajohn.org
> > > > > Photo Story 2 - www.photostory.papajohn.org
> > > > >
> > > > > .
> > > > > "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:%23XfJ8U0VEHA.2928@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > An update on this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The middle 30 minutes of movie "saved" taking about 1 hour to do

> > this.

> > > So
> > > > > I
> > > > > > thought that was good news. I tried the first 30 minute segment

> and

> > > got
> > > > > to
> > > > > > the last 2 minutes and then got a lockup. Disappointing. So

> only

> > > the
> > > > > > middle saved correctly. Does this relate to something in the

> file?

> > > It
> > > > > > would seem though that there is nothing in common between the
> > > beginning
> > > > > and
> > > > > > last movie segments that would cause them to lock up - they

> probably

> > > came
> > > > > > from different original avi files.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > alan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Alan" <moskowa1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:OIU%23qOzVEHA.1656@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > I have been using MM2 several times, most recently in February

> > 2004

> > > and
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > had no difficulty saving movie files in AVI settings for later
> > > rendering
> > > > > > > with Sonic MyDVD. My latest movie file ,about 90 minutes

> > > causes
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > computer to lock up after 30 percent or so completion of

> > > movie"
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the AVI settings. Previous movies were about 1 hour or so.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have lastest drivers on my XP home system, and repeated

> > > twice
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > the same results, locking at about the same partial completion
> > > point.
> > > > > Then
> > > > > > > I defragmented the drive containing the movie files and the

> > > thing
> > > > > > > happened again, at 31 % completed. I read something about

> trying

> > > to
> > > > > break
> > > > > > > the movie into 3 separate projects, which I did, and I

> > with

> > > the
> > > > > > > last 30 minutes of footage, but locked after 20% complete. My

> > movie

> > > > > > > consists of 3 avi files which were taken from 3 mini DV tapes

> and

> > > have
> > > > > only
> > > > > > > titles inserted throughout the movie, ahead of particular

> scenes.

> > > No
> > > > > > > music - only the original sound from the movie. I had

> > > perhaps
> > > > > > > there was some part of the movie file the MM2 does not like,

> > which

> > > is
> > > > > why
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > started from the end. But this did not work so I am really

> > puzzled.

> > > I
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > try the middle portion next.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Alan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> Yes, I would think so..... and so might be tweaking your virtual memory or
> swap file settings.
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