Multi boot x64 and x86 Beta 2 ?

Colin,

Let me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name on
the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads
"Vista x86" and
" XP Pro"

After x64 install will I have :
"Vista x86" and
" XP Pro" and
" Windows"

It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and "
the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64 recognize
that and just add the new path giving me a third option ? That's my
question - can I have 3 options there ?
Thanks,
Bobb


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:u1NLw$FoGHA.1592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from
> http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php
> and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
>
> You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of
> course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the
> dvd.
>
> You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set
> your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system
> added is always the default after installation.
>
> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:%23csUfdFoGHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86
>> and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC
>> ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
>>
>> Windows
>> Previous version
>>
>> So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on
>> IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto
>> another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ?
>> If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
>>
>> Bobb
>>

>
>

You can have a lot of options. I have three now and have had as many as
six. Your last example was probably wrong, however. After the x64
installation I think you will have
Windows
Vista x86
XP Pro

The new installation should always be first because Setup has to put its
working entry at the top. Setup needs to continue after the reboots during
installation rather than have the system drop into some other default
option.

You still have the old Boot Options. They were not overwritten. You just
didn't see the old boot options screen if there was only one OS.

But let's suppose you were already dual booting XP Home and XP Pro and were
getting a boot options screen with those two entries.
XP Home
XP Pro

Now you decide to install Vista x86. The way it was originally set up your
new boot options screen should have two entries, not three

Windows
Old Version of Windows

but Old Version of Windows is only a link to the old boot options screen.
There should be two entries for three options in this example. When you
choose Old Version of Windows you will get the second boot options screen:
XP Home
XP Pro

Now you decide to add Vista x64 so your boot options screen is
Windows
Vista x86
Old Version of Windows (leading to)
XP Home
XP Pro

That was the design. Early in Beta 1 we saw a second boot options screen no
matter what and a lot of people said it was confusing. Choosing Legacy
Windows (as it was called then) brought up a screen with not only XP but
also Vista again. That WAS confusing.

I'm not certain that the original design survived. It is possible that you
might see
Windows
Windows
Old Version of Windows
Old Version of Windows
(which you would then rename to suit yourself)

And so on. I have had boot options screens with six entries (lots of failed
installations). I don't know what the display limits are (I suspect 10) or
how many of those can be live.

"- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:OBNE8UIoGHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> Colin,
>
> Let me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name on
> the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads
> "Vista x86" and
> " XP Pro"
>
> After x64 install will I have :
> "Vista x86" and
> " XP Pro" and
> " Windows"
>
> It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and "
> the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64 recognize
> that and just add the new path giving me a third option ? That's my
> question - can I have 3 options there ?
> Thanks,
> Bobb
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:u1NLw$FoGHA.1592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>> First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from
>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php
>> and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
>>
>> You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of course)
>> to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the dvd.
>>
>> You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set your
>> preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added is
>> always the default after installation.
>>
>> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:%23csUfdFoGHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>>> In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and
>>> x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My
>>> current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
>>>
>>> Windows
>>> Previous version
>>>
>>> So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE
>>> , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another
>>> unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ?
>>> If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
>>>
>>> Bobb
>>>

>>
>>

>

Thanks Colin. THAT's what I was looking for ... not the order of WHAT
I'd see but that it WOULD add another line to the Vista boot menu
allowing me more than one " new boot option."
Excellent ! Thanks to all.

OK, I just thought of one more thing .... since I can do this and since
x86 install is already on a partition, can I clone that partition ( from
J to K ) and then boot K. THEN pop in the x64 dvd and upgrade that
partition (K) from x86 to x64 ? That would save me from reinstalling my
apps and the Office 2007 installs . Originally, I wanted to use x64 but
since I've been having problems getting x64 to run I used x86 - if x64
install (finally) works for me I'll probably just use that.

Bobb


"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%2355k9LJoGHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

> You can have a lot of options. I have three now and have had as many
> as six. Your last example was probably wrong, however. After the x64
> installation I think you will have
> Windows
> Vista x86
> XP Pro
>
> The new installation should always be first because Setup has to put
> its working entry at the top. Setup needs to continue after the
> reboots during installation rather than have the system drop into some
> other default option.
>
> You still have the old Boot Options. They were not overwritten. You
> just didn't see the old boot options screen if there was only one OS.
>
> But let's suppose you were already dual booting XP Home and XP Pro and
> were getting a boot options screen with those two entries.
> XP Home
> XP Pro
>
> Now you decide to install Vista x86. The way it was originally set up
> your new boot options screen should have two entries, not three
>
> Windows
> Old Version of Windows
>
> but Old Version of Windows is only a link to the old boot options
> screen. There should be two entries for three options in this example.
> When you choose Old Version of Windows you will get the second boot
> options screen:
> XP Home
> XP Pro
>
> Now you decide to add Vista x64 so your boot options screen is
> Windows
> Vista x86
> Old Version of Windows (leading to)
> XP Home
> XP Pro
>
> That was the design. Early in Beta 1 we saw a second boot options
> screen no matter what and a lot of people said it was confusing.
> Choosing Legacy Windows (as it was called then) brought up a screen
> with not only XP but also Vista again. That WAS confusing.
>
> I'm not certain that the original design survived. It is possible
> that you might see
> Windows
> Windows
> Old Version of Windows
> Old Version of Windows
> (which you would then rename to suit yourself)
>
> And so on. I have had boot options screens with six entries (lots of
> failed installations). I don't know what the display limits are (I
> suspect 10) or how many of those can be live.
>
> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:OBNE8UIoGHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>> Colin,
>>
>> Let me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name
>> on the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads
>> "Vista x86" and
>> " XP Pro"
>>
>> After x64 install will I have :
>> "Vista x86" and
>> " XP Pro" and
>> " Windows"
>>
>> It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and
>> " the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64
>> recognize that and just add the new path giving me a third option ?
>> That's my question - can I have 3 options there ?
>> Thanks,
>> Bobb
>>
>>
>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
>> news:u1NLw$FoGHA.1592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

>>> First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from
>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php
>>> and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
>>>
>>> You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of
>>> course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with
>>> the dvd.
>>>
>>> You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set
>>> your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system
>>> added is always the default after installation.
>>>
>>> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
>>> news:%23csUfdFoGHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use
>>>> x86 and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on
>>>> same PC ? My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
>>>>
>>>> Windows
>>>> Previous version
>>>>
>>>> So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on
>>>> IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly)
>>>> onto another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ?
>>>> If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
>>>>
>>>> Bobb
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>

>
>

You can't upgrade from any 86 to any 64. Also all of your registry entries
would still refer the drive as J causing you grief.


"- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:Ox0fUGKoGHA.3836@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Thanks Colin. THAT's what I was looking for ... not the order of WHAT I'd
> see but that it WOULD add another line to the Vista boot menu allowing me
> more than one " new boot option."
> Excellent ! Thanks to all.
>
> OK, I just thought of one more thing .... since I can do this and since
> x86 install is already on a partition, can I clone that partition ( from J
> to K ) and then boot K. THEN pop in the x64 dvd and upgrade that partition
> (K) from x86 to x64 ? That would save me from reinstalling my apps and the
> Office 2007 installs . Originally, I wanted to use x64 but since I've been
> having problems getting x64 to run I used x86 - if x64 install (finally)
> works for me I'll probably just use that.
>
> Bobb
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%2355k9LJoGHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> You can have a lot of options. I have three now and have had as many as
>> six. Your last example was probably wrong, however. After the x64
>> installation I think you will have
>> Windows
>> Vista x86
>> XP Pro
>>
>> The new installation should always be first because Setup has to put its
>> working entry at the top. Setup needs to continue after the reboots
>> during installation rather than have the system drop into some other
>> default option.
>>
>> You still have the old Boot Options. They were not overwritten. You
>> just didn't see the old boot options screen if there was only one OS.
>>
>> But let's suppose you were already dual booting XP Home and XP Pro and
>> were getting a boot options screen with those two entries.
>> XP Home
>> XP Pro
>>
>> Now you decide to install Vista x86. The way it was originally set up
>> your new boot options screen should have two entries, not three
>>
>> Windows
>> Old Version of Windows
>>
>> but Old Version of Windows is only a link to the old boot options screen.
>> There should be two entries for three options in this example. When you
>> choose Old Version of Windows you will get the second boot options
>> screen:
>> XP Home
>> XP Pro
>>
>> Now you decide to add Vista x64 so your boot options screen is
>> Windows
>> Vista x86
>> Old Version of Windows (leading to)
>> XP Home
>> XP Pro
>>
>> That was the design. Early in Beta 1 we saw a second boot options screen
>> no matter what and a lot of people said it was confusing. Choosing Legacy
>> Windows (as it was called then) brought up a screen with not only XP but
>> also Vista again. That WAS confusing.
>>
>> I'm not certain that the original design survived. It is possible that
>> you might see
>> Windows
>> Windows
>> Old Version of Windows
>> Old Version of Windows
>> (which you would then rename to suit yourself)
>>
>> And so on. I have had boot options screens with six entries (lots of
>> failed installations). I don't know what the display limits are (I
>> suspect 10) or how many of those can be live.
>>
>> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:OBNE8UIoGHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Colin,
>>>
>>> Let me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name on
>>> the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads
>>> "Vista x86" and
>>> " XP Pro"
>>>
>>> After x64 install will I have :
>>> "Vista x86" and
>>> " XP Pro" and
>>> " Windows"
>>>
>>> It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and "
>>> the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64 recognize
>>> that and just add the new path giving me a third option ? That's my
>>> question - can I have 3 options there ?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bobb
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u1NLw$FoGHA.1592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from
>>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php
>>>> and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
>>>>
>>>> You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of
>>>> course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the
>>>> dvd.
>>>>
>>>> You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set
>>>> your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added
>>>> is always the default after installation.
>>>>
>>>> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23csUfdFoGHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86
>>>>> and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ?
>>>>> My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> Previous version
>>>>>
>>>>> So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on
>>>>> IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto
>>>>> another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ?
>>>>> If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bobb
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>

No. Just boot the computer with the x64 dvd and select the empty partition
when asked. You can't get there by cloning anything and you can't get there
by upgrading anything. You also can't get there by booting up XP x86 and
trying to start Vista x64 Setup from the desktop. Just boot with the dvd.

"- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
news:Ox0fUGKoGHA.3836@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> Thanks Colin. THAT's what I was looking for ... not the order of WHAT I'd
> see but that it WOULD add another line to the Vista boot menu allowing me
> more than one " new boot option."
> Excellent ! Thanks to all.
>
> OK, I just thought of one more thing .... since I can do this and since
> x86 install is already on a partition, can I clone that partition ( from J
> to K ) and then boot K. THEN pop in the x64 dvd and upgrade that partition
> (K) from x86 to x64 ? That would save me from reinstalling my apps and the
> Office 2007 installs . Originally, I wanted to use x64 but since I've been
> having problems getting x64 to run I used x86 - if x64 install (finally)
> works for me I'll probably just use that.
>
> Bobb
>
>
> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
> news:%2355k9LJoGHA.4648@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> You can have a lot of options. I have three now and have had as many as
>> six. Your last example was probably wrong, however. After the x64
>> installation I think you will have
>> Windows
>> Vista x86
>> XP Pro
>>
>> The new installation should always be first because Setup has to put its
>> working entry at the top. Setup needs to continue after the reboots
>> during installation rather than have the system drop into some other
>> default option.
>>
>> You still have the old Boot Options. They were not overwritten. You
>> just didn't see the old boot options screen if there was only one OS.
>>
>> But let's suppose you were already dual booting XP Home and XP Pro and
>> were getting a boot options screen with those two entries.
>> XP Home
>> XP Pro
>>
>> Now you decide to install Vista x86. The way it was originally set up
>> your new boot options screen should have two entries, not three
>>
>> Windows
>> Old Version of Windows
>>
>> but Old Version of Windows is only a link to the old boot options screen.
>> There should be two entries for three options in this example. When you
>> choose Old Version of Windows you will get the second boot options
>> screen:
>> XP Home
>> XP Pro
>>
>> Now you decide to add Vista x64 so your boot options screen is
>> Windows
>> Vista x86
>> Old Version of Windows (leading to)
>> XP Home
>> XP Pro
>>
>> That was the design. Early in Beta 1 we saw a second boot options screen
>> no matter what and a lot of people said it was confusing. Choosing Legacy
>> Windows (as it was called then) brought up a screen with not only XP but
>> also Vista again. That WAS confusing.
>>
>> I'm not certain that the original design survived. It is possible that
>> you might see
>> Windows
>> Windows
>> Old Version of Windows
>> Old Version of Windows
>> (which you would then rename to suit yourself)
>>
>> And so on. I have had boot options screens with six entries (lots of
>> failed installations). I don't know what the display limits are (I
>> suspect 10) or how many of those can be live.
>>
>> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:OBNE8UIoGHA.4332@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

>>> Colin,
>>>
>>> Let me rephrase that. I do have VBP, but my question is not the name on
>>> the screen. Let's say that I now boot to a menu that reads
>>> "Vista x86" and
>>> " XP Pro"
>>>
>>> After x64 install will I have :
>>> "Vista x86" and
>>> " XP Pro" and
>>> " Windows"
>>>
>>> It seems that when Vista creates the boot menu - there's " Vista" and "
>>> the old menu". What if I already HAVE a vista menu - will x64 recognize
>>> that and just add the new path giving me a third option ? That's my
>>> question - can I have 3 options there ?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bobb
>>>
>>>
>>> "Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u1NLw$FoGHA.1592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from
>>>> http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php
>>>> and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
>>>>
>>>> You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of
>>>> course) to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the
>>>> dvd.
>>>>
>>>> You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set
>>>> your preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added
>>>> is always the default after installation.
>>>>
>>>> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23csUfdFoGHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>> In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86
>>>>> and x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ?
>>>>> My current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
>>>>>
>>>>> Windows
>>>>> Previous version
>>>>>
>>>>> So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on
>>>>> IDE , can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto
>>>>> another unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ?
>>>>> If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bobb
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>

Vista boot Pro is a program I DID odwnload.

Have Vista 32,Vista 64 and XP.

"Colin Barnhorst" <colinbarharst(remove)@msn.com> wrote in message
news:u1NLw$FoGHA.1592@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...

> First, I suggest you download VistaBootPro from
> http://www.vistabootpro.org/intro.php
> and edit the two names like "XP" and "Vista x86".
>
> You can then install Vista x64 (if you have a 64-bit machine, of course)
> to an empty partition or drive by booting the machine with the dvd.
>
> You can then edit with VBP again to name the new boot option and set your
> preferred system as the default on start. The latest system added is
> always the default after installation.
>
> "- Bobb -" <bobb@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:%23csUfdFoGHA.5096@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> In reading other notes here, I've seen folks say that they " use x86 and
>> x64 with no problems". Is it possible to install both on same PC ? My
>> current boot option shows 2 choices - something like:
>>
>> Windows
>> Previous version
>>
>> So if I have XP on SATA , and X64 XP Pro and Vista x86 already on IDE ,
>> can I install Vista x64 ( if I ever download it properly) onto another
>> unused partition on SATA ? Or on the IDE ?
>> If so my boot menu would then show ?? what ?
>>
>> Bobb
>>

>
>