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Old 05-30-2007, 08:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
Default Networking and sharing

I am at my wits end trying to get my desktop and laptop to file share over
wlan.

Both are running vista and both have the same login id and password.

Both computers recognise the other computer on the network along with the
router so I am assuming that my hardware and network are ok.

Both computers are set to the same workgroup.

When I select 'show me all the shared network folders on this computer' both
show everything that I require; drives, shared and public folders and
printers.

All my sharing and discovery settings are correct and the same on each
computer; network discovery, file sharing, public folder sharing and printer
sharing all on, passwords off.

I have also tried setting all folders, drives and printers to share via
properties and all display the correct sharing and netork icons.

Whenever I try to access the other networked computer from the one I am
working on I get the same message 'access denied. you do not have permission.
contact the network manager'. or words to that effect.

Oddly enough, media sharing through media player works fine.

Can somebody please tell me what i need to do. It is drivig me to
distraction.

Thanks

Dave
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:59 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I ran into this as well. Hopefully this is what I did to fix:

- goto control panel/Network and Sharing Center
- expand "sharing and discovery"
- check middle button "turn on sharing so anyone w/ network access can open,
change and create files".

Don't think this should be necessary but seems to be a new twist they added
to Vista sharing...

Dave Kolb
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Quote:
>I am at my wits end trying to get my desktop and laptop to file share over
> wlan.
>
> Both are running vista and both have the same login id and password.
>
> Both computers recognise the other computer on the network along with the
> router so I am assuming that my hardware and network are ok.
>
> Both computers are set to the same workgroup.
>
> When I select 'show me all the shared network folders on this computer'
> both
> show everything that I require; drives, shared and public folders and
> printers.
>
> All my sharing and discovery settings are correct and the same on each
> computer; network discovery, file sharing, public folder sharing and
> printer
> sharing all on, passwords off.
>
> I have also tried setting all folders, drives and printers to share via
> properties and all display the correct sharing and netork icons.
>
> Whenever I try to access the other networked computer from the one I am
> working on I get the same message 'access denied. you do not have
> permission.
> contact the network manager'. or words to that effect.
>
> Oddly enough, media sharing through media player works fine.
>
> Can somebody please tell me what i need to do. It is drivig me to
> distraction.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dave

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Old 05-30-2007, 09:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Oops, I should have said "expand public folder sharing"...

"Dave" <REMOVETHISDaveAtHome@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
>I ran into this as well. Hopefully this is what I did to fix:
>
> - goto control panel/Network and Sharing Center
> - expand "sharing and discovery"
> - check middle button "turn on sharing so anyone w/ network access can
> open, change and create files".
>
> Don't think this should be necessary but seems to be a new twist they
> added to Vista sharing...
>
> Dave Kolb
> http://DotNetCodeSlingers.com
>
> "Dave P" <Dave P@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:413F8C7C-9E57-4F36-A7D0-EE7DF89E6FB7@microsoft.com...
Quote:
>>I am at my wits end trying to get my desktop and laptop to file share over
>> wlan.
>>
>> Both are running vista and both have the same login id and password.
>>
>> Both computers recognise the other computer on the network along with the
>> router so I am assuming that my hardware and network are ok.
>>
>> Both computers are set to the same workgroup.
>>
>> When I select 'show me all the shared network folders on this computer'
>> both
>> show everything that I require; drives, shared and public folders and
>> printers.
>>
>> All my sharing and discovery settings are correct and the same on each
>> computer; network discovery, file sharing, public folder sharing and
>> printer
>> sharing all on, passwords off.
>>
>> I have also tried setting all folders, drives and printers to share via
>> properties and all display the correct sharing and netork icons.
>>
>> Whenever I try to access the other networked computer from the one I am
>> working on I get the same message 'access denied. you do not have
>> permission.
>> contact the network manager'. or words to that effect.
>>
>> Oddly enough, media sharing through media player works fine.
>>
>> Can somebody please tell me what i need to do. It is drivig me to
>> distraction.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Dave
>
>

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Old 05-30-2007, 09:37 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Many thnks. I have finally got it to work.
I did what you said and one of my computers defaulted to password protected.
I set the other up the same and made sure that both computers had a
password. Both were blank before and that doesn't appear to work.

Thanks again, I can finally get some sleep.

"Dave" wrote:
Quote:
> Oops, I should have said "expand public folder sharing"...
>
> "Dave" <REMOVETHISDaveAtHome@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eO9wa1voHHA.668@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Quote:
> >I ran into this as well. Hopefully this is what I did to fix:
> >
> > - goto control panel/Network and Sharing Center
> > - expand "sharing and discovery"
> > - check middle button "turn on sharing so anyone w/ network access can
> > open, change and create files".
> >
> > Don't think this should be necessary but seems to be a new twist they
> > added to Vista sharing...
> >
> > Dave Kolb
> > http://DotNetCodeSlingers.com
> >
> > "Dave P" <Dave P@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:413F8C7C-9E57-4F36-A7D0-EE7DF89E6FB7@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> >>I am at my wits end trying to get my desktop and laptop to file share over
> >> wlan.
> >>
> >> Both are running vista and both have the same login id and password.
> >>
> >> Both computers recognise the other computer on the network along with the
> >> router so I am assuming that my hardware and network are ok.
> >>
> >> Both computers are set to the same workgroup.
> >>
> >> When I select 'show me all the shared network folders on this computer'
> >> both
> >> show everything that I require; drives, shared and public folders and
> >> printers.
> >>
> >> All my sharing and discovery settings are correct and the same on each
> >> computer; network discovery, file sharing, public folder sharing and
> >> printer
> >> sharing all on, passwords off.
> >>
> >> I have also tried setting all folders, drives and printers to share via
> >> properties and all display the correct sharing and netork icons.
> >>
> >> Whenever I try to access the other networked computer from the one I am
> >> working on I get the same message 'access denied. you do not have
> >> permission.
> >> contact the network manager'. or words to that effect.
> >>
> >> Oddly enough, media sharing through media player works fine.
> >>
> >> Can somebody please tell me what i need to do. It is drivig me to
> >> distraction.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Dave
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Old 05-31-2007, 01:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thank you for sharing your experience with us.

Bob Lin, MS-MVP, MCSE & CNE
Networking, Internet, Routing, VPN Troubleshooting on http://www.ChicagoTech.net
How to Setup Windows, Network, VPN & Remote Access on http://www.HowToNetworking.com
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Many thnks. I have finally got it to work.
I did what you said and one of my computers defaulted to password protected.
I set the other up the same and made sure that both computers had a
password. Both were blank before and that doesn't appear to work.

Thanks again, I can finally get some sleep.

"Dave" wrote:
Quote:
> Oops, I should have said "expand public folder sharing"...
>
> "Dave" <REMOVETHISDaveAtHome@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:eO9wa1voHHA.668@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Quote:
> >I ran into this as well. Hopefully this is what I did to fix:
> >
> > - goto control panel/Network and Sharing Center
> > - expand "sharing and discovery"
> > - check middle button "turn on sharing so anyone w/ network access can
> > open, change and create files".
> >
> > Don't think this should be necessary but seems to be a new twist they
> > added to Vista sharing...
> >
> > Dave Kolb
> > http://DotNetCodeSlingers.com
> >
> > "Dave P" <Dave P@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:413F8C7C-9E57-4F36-A7D0-EE7DF89E6FB7@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> >>I am at my wits end trying to get my desktop and laptop to file share over
> >> wlan.
> >>
> >> Both are running vista and both have the same login id and password.
> >>
> >> Both computers recognise the other computer on the network along with the
> >> router so I am assuming that my hardware and network are ok.
> >>
> >> Both computers are set to the same workgroup.
> >>
> >> When I select 'show me all the shared network folders on this computer'
> >> both
> >> show everything that I require; drives, shared and public folders and
> >> printers.
> >>
> >> All my sharing and discovery settings are correct and the same on each
> >> computer; network discovery, file sharing, public folder sharing and
> >> printer
> >> sharing all on, passwords off.
> >>
> >> I have also tried setting all folders, drives and printers to share via
> >> properties and all display the correct sharing and netork icons.
> >>
> >> Whenever I try to access the other networked computer from the one I am
> >> working on I get the same message 'access denied. you do not have
> >> permission.
> >> contact the network manager'. or words to that effect.
> >>
> >> Oddly enough, media sharing through media player works fine.
> >>
> >> Can somebody please tell me what i need to do. It is drivig me to
> >> distraction.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >>
> >> Dave
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Old 07-05-2007, 04:44 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I want to be able to share among my vista machine and my two xp machines. In
very simple terms can you tell me how to do this?
Thanks, Debbie

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Old 07-05-2007, 05:55 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Make sure all PCs are in the same workgroup. Make sure you have network
discovery/sharing turned on for all PCs. Then "share" the folders and/or
printers you want to be able to access. If any of this is wireless, make
sure to turn on the security features and turn off broadcasting of your
SSID. It also helps to use the same username/password on all PCs (not
required but it simplifies things). Oh...I assume you have already installed
a network (NIC, patch cables, router, etc.).

Tim

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>I want to be able to share among my vista machine and my two xp machines.
>In very simple terms can you tell me how to do this?
> Thanks, Debbie
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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> Make sure all PCs are in the same workgroup. Make sure you have network
> discovery/sharing turned on for all PCs. Then "share" the folders and/or
> printers you want to be able to access. If any of this is wireless, make
> sure to turn on the security features and turn off broadcasting of your
> SSID. It also helps to use the same username/password on all PCs (not
> required but it simplifies things). Oh...I assume you have already
> installed a network (NIC, patch cables, router, etc.).
>
> Tim
Tim, I was going to post a new thread, but maybe I can work this out with
you......

I have an XP and Vista, hard wired via Linksys router. Both computers can
see each other, printer shares properly, and I can share the PUBLIC folder
on the Vista with my XP. But, I can't share other "shared" Vista folders
with the XP. Note: the Vista can use all shared folders on the XP, of
course!

OK, I'm gonna take this one step at a time! I WILL solve this thing!
First, my Vista and XP have two different user names (logical, since we have
two separate users!). Could THIS be a part of my problem? If so, why? Why
would Microsoft require all computers on a network to have the SAME name!!??

Let me know, and if this is a problem, can I get around this by still
keeping my separate names? Thanks.

EW


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Old 07-05-2007, 10:19 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I think you would be better off starting a new thread. You'll be more likely
to get a better answer than I have.

I'm not a networking expert. But I'm reasonably sure that if you were to use
the same username and password on all machines your problem will go away.
Note that I am not saying this is *the* answer to your problem...at best it
is a workaround. This is the way I do it on my home network because I don't
need to have separate accounts. Because of that, I have never pursued it any
further. There has to be a way to make it work for you...probably through
adjusting file/folder permissions or sharing permissions. A new thread may
get your answer more quickly.

Good luck.

Tim

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> "Tim" <tim_at_overthere.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
>> Make sure all PCs are in the same workgroup. Make sure you have network
>> discovery/sharing turned on for all PCs. Then "share" the folders and/or
>> printers you want to be able to access. If any of this is wireless, make
>> sure to turn on the security features and turn off broadcasting of your
>> SSID. It also helps to use the same username/password on all PCs (not
>> required but it simplifies things). Oh...I assume you have already
>> installed a network (NIC, patch cables, router, etc.).
>>
>> Tim
>
> Tim, I was going to post a new thread, but maybe I can work this out with
> you......
>
> I have an XP and Vista, hard wired via Linksys router. Both computers can
> see each other, printer shares properly, and I can share the PUBLIC folder
> on the Vista with my XP. But, I can't share other "shared" Vista folders
> with the XP. Note: the Vista can use all shared folders on the XP, of
> course!
>
> OK, I'm gonna take this one step at a time! I WILL solve this thing!
> First, my Vista and XP have two different user names (logical, since we
> have two separate users!). Could THIS be a part of my problem? If so,
> why? Why would Microsoft require all computers on a network to have the
> SAME name!!??
>
> Let me know, and if this is a problem, can I get around this by still
> keeping my separate names? Thanks.
>
> EW
>
>
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Old 07-06-2007, 12:11 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Thanks for the reply, Tim. I will post this in a new thread -- later. I've
GOT to solve this seemingly simply file sharing problem, but it's not a
vital thing for me right now. I just don't understand why I could share
files/folders SO easily with my XP and ME systems, yet SO difficult with
Vista. It's not about security (I think). And unfortunately, Microsoft and
the MVPs don't provide understandable answers. Many others have this same
problem.

See you.

EW




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Quote:
>I think you would be better off starting a new thread. You'll be more
>likely to get a better answer than I have.
>
> I'm not a networking expert. But I'm reasonably sure that if you were to
> use the same username and password on all machines your problem will go
> away. Note that I am not saying this is *the* answer to your problem...at
> best it is a workaround. This is the way I do it on my home network
> because I don't need to have separate accounts. Because of that, I have
> never pursued it any further. There has to be a way to make it work for
> you...probably through adjusting file/folder permissions or sharing
> permissions. A new thread may get your answer more quickly.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Tim
>
> "LoneStar" <ewyatt_del_me@excite.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
>>
>> "Tim" <tim_at_overthere.com> wrote in message
>> news:24068A5A-1F85-41DF-9E43-3E0271A3665D@microsoft.com...
Quote:
>>> Make sure all PCs are in the same workgroup. Make sure you have network
>>> discovery/sharing turned on for all PCs. Then "share" the folders and/or
>>> printers you want to be able to access. If any of this is wireless, make
>>> sure to turn on the security features and turn off broadcasting of your
>>> SSID. It also helps to use the same username/password on all PCs (not
>>> required but it simplifies things). Oh...I assume you have already
>>> installed a network (NIC, patch cables, router, etc.).
>>>
>>> Tim
>>
>> Tim, I was going to post a new thread, but maybe I can work this out with
>> you......
>>
>> I have an XP and Vista, hard wired via Linksys router. Both computers
>> can see each other, printer shares properly, and I can share the PUBLIC
>> folder on the Vista with my XP. But, I can't share other "shared" Vista
>> folders with the XP. Note: the Vista can use all shared folders on the
>> XP, of course!
>>
>> OK, I'm gonna take this one step at a time! I WILL solve this thing!
>> First, my Vista and XP have two different user names (logical, since we
>> have two separate users!). Could THIS be a part of my problem? If so,
>> why? Why would Microsoft require all computers on a network to have the
>> SAME name!!??
>>
>> Let me know, and if this is a problem, can I get around this by still
>> keeping my separate names? Thanks.
>>
>> EW
>>
>>
>

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