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Old 01-26-2007, 07:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
Default Networking XP and Vista

I am currently running XP on both my laptop and desktop. Both computers are
networked together via an N-Draft router. I purchased the option to upgrade
to Vista from Dell when I ordered my laptop. Will this upgrade upset my
network if I am running XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop? Will I lose
any functionality?
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Old 01-26-2007, 08:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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"azst8mba" <azst8mba@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>I am currently running XP on both my laptop and desktop. Both computers are
> networked together via an N-Draft router. I purchased the option to
> upgrade
> to Vista from Dell when I ordered my laptop. Will this upgrade upset my
> network if I am running XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop? Will I
> lose
> any functionality?
No... I run a mixed Vista and XP test network with wired and wireless PCs...

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Old 01-28-2007, 09:18 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm pleased that you don't have a problem on your mixed network but I do and
microsoft have released a patch http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=922120
for the specific problem that XP PCs don't appear on the network maps. The
download installs the Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder
component.

This initially worked on my network but now doesn't. I can see and connect
to the Vista laptop from my XP desktop PC and I can see the XP PC from the
Vista laptop on the Network map but it doesn't show in the actual network
itself so I can't access it.

As you have a working setup do you have any advice to offer?

Thanks,

Nigel
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> "azst8mba" <azst8mba@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:33359ACC-0823-4366-94E0-1B9A2741B7D1@microsoft.com...
Quote:
>>I am currently running XP on both my laptop and desktop. Both computers
>>are
>> networked together via an N-Draft router. I purchased the option to
>> upgrade
>> to Vista from Dell when I ordered my laptop. Will this upgrade upset my
>> network if I am running XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop? Will I
>> lose
>> any functionality?
>
> No... I run a mixed Vista and XP test network with wired and wireless
> PCs...
>
> --
>
> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>
> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
> mutual benefit of all of us...
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> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
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Old 01-28-2007, 10:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The patch that I referred to in my last post is to enable XP pcs to show in
the network mapping feature rather than to correct any connection problems.

Following advice from further down I have now corrected my problem by power
cycling my Belkin PreN router. After powering the router back up the XP PC
is now visible and accessible - Sighs with relief!!

Hope this is somethig that helps here.

Nigel

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> I'm pleased that you don't have a problem on your mixed network but I do
> and microsoft have released a patch
> http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=922120 for the specific problem that XP
> PCs don't appear on the network maps. The download installs the Link-Layer
> Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder component.
>
> This initially worked on my network but now doesn't. I can see and connect
> to the Vista laptop from my XP desktop PC and I can see the XP PC from the
> Vista laptop on the Network map but it doesn't show in the actual network
> itself so I can't access it.
>
> As you have a working setup do you have any advice to offer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nigel
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>> "azst8mba" <azst8mba@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:33359ACC-0823-4366-94E0-1B9A2741B7D1@microsoft.com...
Quote:
>>>I am currently running XP on both my laptop and desktop. Both computers
>>>are
>>> networked together via an N-Draft router. I purchased the option to
>>> upgrade
>>> to Vista from Dell when I ordered my laptop. Will this upgrade upset my
>>> network if I am running XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop? Will I
>>> lose
>>> any functionality?
>>
>> No... I run a mixed Vista and XP test network with wired and wireless
>> PCs...
>>
>> --
>>
>> Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
>>
>> Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
>> mutual benefit of all of us...
>> The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights...
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Old 02-28-2007, 02:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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"Nigel Freeney" wrote:
Quote:
> I'm pleased that you don't have a problem on your mixed network but I do and
> microsoft have released a patch http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=922120
> for the specific problem that XP PCs don't appear on the network maps. The
> download installs the Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder
> component.
>
> This initially worked on my network but now doesn't. I can see and connect
> to the Vista laptop from my XP desktop PC and I can see the XP PC from the
> Vista laptop on the Network map but it doesn't show in the actual network
> itself so I can't access it.
>
> As you have a working setup do you have any advice to offer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nigel
> "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
> news:08E31CA9-77AF-4AFD-A62B-AD039D479E9A@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> > "azst8mba" <azst8mba@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:33359ACC-0823-4366-94E0-1B9A2741B7D1@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> >>I am currently running XP on both my laptop and desktop. Both computers
> >>are
> >> networked together via an N-Draft router. I purchased the option to
> >> upgrade
> >> to Vista from Dell when I ordered my laptop. Will this upgrade upset my
> >> network if I am running XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop? Will I
> >> lose
> >> any functionality?
> >
> > No... I run a mixed Vista and XP test network with wired and wireless
> > PCs...
> >
> > --
> >
> > Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
> >
> > Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
> > mutual benefit of all of us...
> > The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > rights...
> >
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>
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Old 02-28-2007, 02:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I have downloaded the patch on my XP laptop but I still do not get any
evidence that the two computers recognize that the other exists. I am using a
linksys router and have followed the instructions for setting the network.
Pinging indicates that they do not know the other exists also.

HELP! smeltzer123@comcast.net

"Nigel Freeney" wrote:
Quote:
> I'm pleased that you don't have a problem on your mixed network but I do and
> microsoft have released a patch http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=922120
> for the specific problem that XP PCs don't appear on the network maps. The
> download installs the Link-Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder
> component.
>
> This initially worked on my network but now doesn't. I can see and connect
> to the Vista laptop from my XP desktop PC and I can see the XP PC from the
> Vista laptop on the Network map but it doesn't show in the actual network
> itself so I can't access it.
>
> As you have a working setup do you have any advice to offer?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nigel
> "Sooner Al [MVP]" <SoonerAl@somewhere.net.invalid> wrote in message
> news:08E31CA9-77AF-4AFD-A62B-AD039D479E9A@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> > "azst8mba" <azst8mba@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:33359ACC-0823-4366-94E0-1B9A2741B7D1@microsoft.com...
Quote:
> >>I am currently running XP on both my laptop and desktop. Both computers
> >>are
> >> networked together via an N-Draft router. I purchased the option to
> >> upgrade
> >> to Vista from Dell when I ordered my laptop. Will this upgrade upset my
> >> network if I am running XP on my desktop and Vista on my laptop? Will I
> >> lose
> >> any functionality?
> >
> > No... I run a mixed Vista and XP test network with wired and wireless
> > PCs...
> >
> > --
> >
> > Al Jarvi (MS-MVP Windows Networking)
> >
> > Please post *ALL* questions and replies to the news group for the
> > mutual benefit of all of us...
> > The MS-MVP Program - http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
> > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
> > rights...
> >
>
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>
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Old 05-09-2007, 07:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
Default Networking XP and Vista

I had two XP computers running through a router. They shared files and
printers.
I replaced one of the Xp computers with another computer loaded with Vista.
I am having difficulties sharing files and printers. I cant get the Vista
computer to see the XP computer and printer. Workgroup names are the same.
Directories are shared. Printer shows being shared. Do I need to do anything
with the router so the Vista computer can see the other? Is there anything
that I missed or am not thinking about. Sorry I am still a novice at
networking.
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Old 05-09-2007, 08:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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On Wed, 9 May 2007 12:06:00 -0700, Colter <Colter@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:
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>I had two XP computers running through a router. They shared files and
>printers.
>I replaced one of the Xp computers with another computer loaded with Vista.
>I am having difficulties sharing files and printers. I cant get the Vista
>computer to see the XP computer and printer. Workgroup names are the same.
>Directories are shared. Printer shows being shared. Do I need to do anything
>with the router so the Vista computer can see the other? Is there anything
>that I missed or am not thinking about. Sorry I am still a novice at
>networking.
Getting the two computers to "see" each other is simply a matter of getting
Server Message Blocks to pass between the two. SMBs can be blocked by personal
firewalls, by some NAT routers, and by some other security components.
* On the Vista computer, set the Network Location Type to "Private". This
requires that your computers are secure, behind a perimeter firewall or a NAT
router, and opens the personal firewall for SMBs.

Other than the network setup wizards used, Vista will be pretty similar to XP.
You'll still have issues with Windows Networking, if not properly set.
* Put all computers in the same workgroup.
* Make sure that NetBT is Enabled consistently.
* Make sure that all personal firewalls are properly setup.
* Make sure that name resolution is consistently setup.

For details, see my tutorial.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html

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Old 05-09-2007, 09:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
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"Chuck" wrote:
Quote:
> On Wed, 9 May 2007 12:06:00 -0700, Colter <Colter@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
Quote:
> >I had two XP computers running through a router. They shared files and
> >printers.
> >I replaced one of the Xp computers with another computer loaded with Vista.
> >I am having difficulties sharing files and printers. I cant get the Vista
> >computer to see the XP computer and printer. Workgroup names are the same.
> >Directories are shared. Printer shows being shared. Do I need to do anything
> >with the router so the Vista computer can see the other? Is there anything
> >that I missed or am not thinking about. Sorry I am still a novice at
> >networking.
>
> Getting the two computers to "see" each other is simply a matter of getting
> Server Message Blocks to pass between the two. SMBs can be blocked by personal
> firewalls, by some NAT routers, and by some other security components.
> * On the Vista computer, set the Network Location Type to "Private". This
> requires that your computers are secure, behind a perimeter firewall or a NAT
> router, and opens the personal firewall for SMBs.
>
> Other than the network setup wizards used, Vista will be pretty similar to XP.
> You'll still have issues with Windows Networking, if not properly set.
> * Put all computers in the same workgroup.
> * Make sure that NetBT is Enabled consistently.
> * Make sure that all personal firewalls are properly setup.
> * Make sure that name resolution is consistently setup.
>
> For details, see my tutorial.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
>
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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"Chuck" wrote:
Quote:
> On Wed, 9 May 2007 12:06:00 -0700, Colter <Colter@discussions.microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>
Quote:
> >I had two XP computers running through a router. They shared files and
> >printers.
> >I replaced one of the Xp computers with another computer loaded with Vista.
> >I am having difficulties sharing files and printers. I cant get the Vista
> >computer to see the XP computer and printer. Workgroup names are the same.
> >Directories are shared. Printer shows being shared. Do I need to do anything
> >with the router so the Vista computer can see the other? Is there anything
> >that I missed or am not thinking about. Sorry I am still a novice at
> >networking.
>
> Getting the two computers to "see" each other is simply a matter of getting
> Server Message Blocks to pass between the two. SMBs can be blocked by personal
> firewalls, by some NAT routers, and by some other security components.
> * On the Vista computer, set the Network Location Type to "Private". This
> requires that your computers are secure, behind a perimeter firewall or a NAT
> router, and opens the personal firewall for SMBs.
>
> Other than the network setup wizards used, Vista will be pretty similar to XP.
> You'll still have issues with Windows Networking, if not properly set.
> * Put all computers in the same workgroup.
> * Make sure that NetBT is Enabled consistently.
> * Make sure that all personal firewalls are properly setup.
> * Make sure that name resolution is consistently setup.
>
> For details, see my tutorial.
> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/12/windows-xp-and-vista-on-lan-together.html>
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-together.html
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Chuck, MS-MVP [Windows - Networking]
> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/
> Paranoia is not a problem, when it's a normal response from experience.
> My email is AT DOT
> actual address pchuck mvps org.
I have 3 XP pro computers and a server (running Windows Server 2003)
networked through a wired/wireless router. I added a new machine with Vista
Premium.
I can get to the internet, but I can not "see" any of the other machines nor
can I access them through their IP addresses.
At this point, I am not very happy with Vista
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