Nikon NEF plugin vs Adobe RAW plugin

Posted: 08-04-2004, 03:38 PM
I have just started using photoshop cs to tweak my digital photos and the first thing I discovered was that there was no raw support installed by default, so I wandered around for a while and found the Nikon NEF plugin and found where to put it and presto I could fool around with nef files. Now I am reading that somewhere (maybe on the goodies cd's I have) there is a fabled Abode RAW plugin. If a manage to find this goodie, is it somehow "better" than the Nikon plugin? Are there things I can do with the Nikon plugin that I cannot do with the Adobe and visa versa? And why doesn't this stuff "just work" :-)
And can I get photshop to move my RAW images from my D70 to my computer, or do I have to use Nikon software to do that?
Dave
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Ramón_G_Castañeda@adobeforums.com
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Re: Nikon NEF plugin vs Adobe RAW plugin
Posted: 08-04-2004, 06:17 PM
Yes, Adobe Camera Raw is MUCH better than the Nikon software. It's installed as part of the default CS installation. If you couldn't see your Nikon RAW files, it just means you had not updated to the current Adobe Camera Raw 2.2 plug-in and you have a newer model Nikon camera (like the D70, for instance); but I bet the older version is already there, where it's supposed to be. Update to 2.2 ASAP, your camera's NEF files will be supported. It's a free download from the Adobe customer support download site.

Just follow the instructions to replace the plug-in that you'll see in the download page. Equally important, you MUST also remove the Nikon plug-in; it interferes with Adobe Camera Raw, which is infinitely superior.
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Re: Nikon NEF plugin vs Adobe RAW plugin
Posted: 08-04-2004, 09:45 PM


And can I get photshop to move my RAW images from my D70 to my computer,
or do I have to use Nikon software to do that? <




Dave I'm not really familiar with the Nikon system, (I use Olympus and Phase One), but you can use a card reader to transfer you files, or you should be able to connect the camera via USB or Firewire if supported to your Mac and it should see it as a portable storage device (hard drive) and you can drag & drop the files where you want to put them. Same for a windoz box. You shouldn't need to use the Nikon software to move the files.
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Re: Nikon NEF plugin vs Adobe RAW plugin
Posted: 08-04-2004, 10:00 PM
Never open your pics from the card always copy them to your hard drive.

then burn them to CD or DVD before doing anything to them.
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Re: Nikon NEF plugin vs Adobe RAW plugin
Posted: 08-04-2004, 10:07 PM
Buko is correct!

Transfer the files first.

you can use a card reader to transfer you files,




I back up to an external firewire drive.
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Re: Nikon NEF plugin vs Adobe RAW plugin
Posted: 08-04-2004, 10:20 PM
JeffN,

The issue Dave has is something entirely different; it's not about getting the files to the hard disk, but to have the NEF (Nikon RAW) recognized by Photoshop. Photoshop can't do that by itself, it needs the plug-in (either Adobe Camera RAW 2.2 or the Nikon RAW plug-in).

RAW files are NOT like JPEGs or TIFFs. They are essentially unprocessed files for which there's no universal format; each camera produces its own different type of RAW files: NEF, PEF, etc.

Dave already has the files where he needs them.

He couldn't open them because his specific camera MODEL was not supported by the first releases of Adobe Camera Raw, that's why he needs to update to ACR 2.2, and delete the old ACR plug-in as well as the Nikon plug-in he has already installed.
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Re: Nikon NEF plugin vs Adobe RAW plugin
Posted: 08-04-2004, 10:22 PM
RAW files are essentially uncooked (raw) grayscale files as they come out of the sensor, before being processed in the camera even to bring out the colors. All processing must take place in the computer.
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Re: Nikon NEF plugin vs Adobe RAW plugin
Posted: 08-04-2004, 11:11 PM
I bought and paid for Nikon Capture thinking that they had a 'better' deal/idea.

I was wrong.

Lesson's learned.
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Re: Nikon NEF plugin vs Adobe RAW plugin
Posted: 08-05-2004, 06:27 PM


Equally important, you MUST also remove the Nikon plug-in




Is the Nikon plug-in something different than Nikon Capture? With PS 7 I could tweak with NC and open in PS and carry on from there. Now, with CS, the changes made in NC aren't recognized by PSCS even though they have been saved.

I much prefer Nikon Capture to ACR, but obviously there is no point in using it if I want to continue in Photoshop as all NC changes are ignored.

Why would ACR be considered "infinitely superior"?
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Re: Nikon NEF plugin vs Adobe RAW plugin
Posted: 08-05-2004, 06:33 PM
Because, by all accounts, the Nikon plug-in software is very poor. That's according to countless Nikon users and the few times I used it when I rented a Nikon digital SLR to try with my Nikon lenses.

Have you actually tried ACR 2.2?
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