No More Clean Installs Using Upgrade Discs

Posted: 01-28-2007, 03:36 PM
This article explains there is no more clean installs using upgrade discs
with Windows Vista.

http://dailytech.com/No+More+Clean+I...rticle5887.htm



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John Barnes
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Re: No More Clean Installs Using Upgrade Discs
Posted: 01-28-2007, 03:53 PM
Old news, but the most convenient way to have a reinstall of Vista is to
make an image of the installed product before installing programs. Get the
settings the way you want them and even selected drivers, then image. Next
time you will not have to reinstall XP


"yoshi" <yoshi@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> This article explains there is no more clean installs using upgrade discs
> with Windows Vista.
>
> http://dailytech.com/No+More+Clean+I...rticle5887.htm
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Colin Barnhorst
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Re: No More Clean Installs Using Upgrade Discs
Posted: 01-28-2007, 07:35 PM
Thanks for posting the link! Its clear that there is still some incorrect
info out there about upgrade editions but at least the word is getting out
that things have changed since XP so "look before you leap." Even the
article does not give the whole picture, especially with regard to Vista x64
UEs.

"yoshi" <yoshi@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> This article explains there is no more clean installs using upgrade discs
> with Windows Vista.
>
> http://dailytech.com/No+More+Clean+I...rticle5887.htm
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Re: No More Clean Installs Using Upgrade Discs
Posted: 01-29-2007, 05:25 AM
I'm hoping someone figures out what files it is looking for so that I can do
a relatively clean install - upgrades are a sloppy way of installing an OS.
Let's hope someone finds those solutions soon as I just bought 5 "upgrades"
not realizing I'd have to install them over previous versions of Windows.
I don't mind giving the program the original install CD or the registered
license for XP but I really dislike sloppy installs. This is incredibly
unprofessional and shows poor geek appreciation on the part of MS in my
opinion

"yoshi" <yoshi@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> This article explains there is no more clean installs using upgrade discs
> with Windows Vista.
>
> http://dailytech.com/No+More+Clean+I...rticle5887.htm
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Richard G. Harper
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Re: No More Clean Installs Using Upgrade Discs
Posted: 01-29-2007, 10:57 AM
It doesn't "look for files" - Setup must be started from within an existing
Windows session. Period. So your wish will never be fulfilled.

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"boe" <boe_d@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm hoping someone figures out what files it is looking for so that I can
> do a relatively clean install - upgrades are a sloppy way of installing an
> OS. Let's hope someone finds those solutions soon as I just bought 5
> "upgrades" not realizing I'd have to install them over previous versions
> of Windows. I don't mind giving the program the original install CD or the
> registered license for XP but I really dislike sloppy installs. This is
> incredibly unprofessional and shows poor geek appreciation on the part of
> MS in my opinion

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Rick Rogers
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Re: No More Clean Installs Using Upgrade Discs
Posted: 01-29-2007, 11:47 AM
Hi,

Use the custom option after starting the disk within an existing
installation to avoid the "sloppy" install. As Richard has stated, the
manner of qualifying an Upgrade disk is not going to change.

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"boe" <boe_d@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm hoping someone figures out what files it is looking for so that I can
> do a relatively clean install - upgrades are a sloppy way of installing an
> OS. Let's hope someone finds those solutions soon as I just bought 5
> "upgrades" not realizing I'd have to install them over previous versions
> of Windows. I don't mind giving the program the original install CD or the
> registered license for XP but I really dislike sloppy installs. This is
> incredibly unprofessional and shows poor geek appreciation on the part of
> MS in my opinion
>
> "yoshi" <yoshi@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:FCB20898-478E-4131-B085-BC862B0715B6@microsoft.com...
>> This article explains there is no more clean installs using upgrade discs
>> with Windows Vista.
>>
>> http://dailytech.com/No+More+Clean+I...rticle5887.htm
>>
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JW
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Re: No More Clean Installs Using Upgrade Discs
Posted: 01-29-2007, 03:52 PM
Does the custom install option install in the existing XP partition or in a
different Partition?
If in the existing partition what is different between it and an upgrade
when the install is complete?

"Rick Rogers" <rick@mvps.org> wrote in message
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> Hi,
>
> Use the custom option after starting the disk within an existing
> installation to avoid the "sloppy" install. As Richard has stated, the
> manner of qualifying an Upgrade disk is not going to change.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>
> "boe" <boe_d@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:es91BY2QHHA.464@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I'm hoping someone figures out what files it is looking for so that I can
>> do a relatively clean install - upgrades are a sloppy way of installing
>> an OS. Let's hope someone finds those solutions soon as I just bought 5
>> "upgrades" not realizing I'd have to install them over previous versions
>> of Windows. I don't mind giving the program the original install CD or
>> the registered license for XP but I really dislike sloppy installs.
>> This is incredibly unprofessional and shows poor geek appreciation on the
>> part of MS in my opinion
>>
>> "yoshi" <yoshi@nospam.com> wrote in message
>> news:FCB20898-478E-4131-B085-BC862B0715B6@microsoft.com...
>>> This article explains there is no more clean installs using upgrade
>>> discs with Windows Vista.
>>>
>>> http://dailytech.com/No+More+Clean+I...rticle5887.htm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

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Ryan Nicolson
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Re: No More Clean Installs Using Upgrade Discs
Posted: 01-29-2007, 04:23 PM
According to this knowledge base article you cannot do a clean install,
http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/930985/en-us

But according to the information in "Buy or Upgrade", some versions require
a clean install.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...radepaths.mspx

Which is correct? These seem to contradict each other. Almost everytime I
turn around there seems to be more contradictory information on Vista.
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Re: No More Clean Installs Using Upgrade Discs
Posted: 01-29-2007, 05:56 PM
Ryan Nicolson wrote:
> According to this knowledge base article you cannot do a clean install,
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b/930985/en-us
>
> But according to the information in "Buy or Upgrade", some versions require
> a clean install.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...radepaths.mspx
>
> Which is correct? These seem to contradict each other. Almost everytime I
> turn around there seems to be more contradictory information on Vista.
Ain't it the truth. I guess we have no option other than to wait to
hear exactly what happens as thousands more get their 'upgrade' disks in
their hands and report WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED rather than speculation
and links to MS articles. Sad but true...
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Rudi Brochs
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Re: No More Clean Installs Using Upgrade Discs
Posted: 01-29-2007, 10:35 PM
Hi,

I haven't tried this my self, but I have heard that if you do a clean
install of Vista with the version you have the key for, without entering key
as you install, that you then at point of activation can use the upgrade key
you have received.

Nice if somone can confirm or prove this to be wrong.

RB

"boe" <boe_d@nospam.hotmail.com> skrev i melding
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> I'm hoping someone figures out what files it is looking for so that I can
> do a relatively clean install - upgrades are a sloppy way of installing an
> OS. Let's hope someone finds those solutions soon as I just bought 5
> "upgrades" not realizing I'd have to install them over previous versions
> of Windows. I don't mind giving the program the original install CD or the
> registered license for XP but I really dislike sloppy installs. This is
> incredibly unprofessional and shows poor geek appreciation on the part of
> MS in my opinion
>
> "yoshi" <yoshi@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:FCB20898-478E-4131-B085-BC862B0715B6@microsoft.com...
>> This article explains there is no more clean installs using upgrade discs
>> with Windows Vista.
>>
>> http://dailytech.com/No+More+Clean+I...rticle5887.htm
>>
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