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Van Chocstraw 01-17-2009 02:15 AM

Norton
 
Why does Norton always come with Windows laptops?
I wipe that off and put on PCTools firewall plus, Antivirus and
Threatfire -all free.





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C.B. 01-17-2009 02:34 AM

Re: Norton
 

"Van Chocstraw" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
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> Why does Norton always come with Windows laptops?
> I wipe that off and put on PCTools firewall plus, Antivirus and
> Threatfire -all free.
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Computer vendors have partner agreements with many companies. I assume Dell
is being paid for placing Norton's software on their computers.


Hank J. 01-17-2009 02:56 AM

Re: Norton
 
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:34:05 -0500, "C.B."
<notreallyc.b.mullen@windowslive.com> wrote:
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>"Van Chocstraw" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
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>> Why does Norton always come with Windows laptops?
>> I wipe that off and put on PCTools firewall plus, Antivirus and
>> Threatfire -all free.
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>> Van Chocstraw
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>Computer vendors have partner agreements with many companies. I assume Dell
>is being paid for placing Norton's software on their computers.
What a NOVEL idea! I wonder if other manufacturer's have caught on to
that!?

Richard Urban 01-17-2009 03:45 AM

Re: Norton
 
They all do it. The computer manufacturers put on the software of the
company that pays them the most.

No matter how you slice it, it still is crapware!

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Hank J." <henry@doctorjeckyl.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:34:05 -0500, "C.B."
> <notreallyc.b.mullen@windowslive.com> wrote:
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>>"Van Chocstraw" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
>>news:W8WdnZP8xtGtouzUnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@giganews.c om...
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>>> Why does Norton always come with Windows laptops?
>>> I wipe that off and put on PCTools firewall plus, Antivirus and
>>> Threatfire -all free.
>>>
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>>> <<//--------------------\\>>
>>> Van Chocstraw
>>> >>\\--------------------//<<
>>
>>Computer vendors have partner agreements with many companies. I assume
>>Dell
>>is being paid for placing Norton's software on their computers.
>
> What a NOVEL idea! I wonder if other manufacturer's have caught on to
> that!?

Hank J. 01-17-2009 04:38 AM

Re: Norton
 
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:45:33 -0500, "Richard Urban"
<richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>They all do it. The computer manufacturers put on the software of the
>company that pays them the most.
>
>No matter how you slice it, it still is crapware!
You thought I was being SERIOUS?
Quote:

>"Hank J." <henry@doctorjeckyl.invalid> wrote in message
>news:04i2n49s3rrnbqu9ae7vj449am59vt934e@4ax.com.. .
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>> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:34:05 -0500, "C.B."
>> <notreallyc.b.mullen@windowslive.com> wrote:
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>>>"Van Chocstraw" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
>>>news:W8WdnZP8xtGtouzUnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@giganews. com...
>>>> Why does Norton always come with Windows laptops?
>>>> I wipe that off and put on PCTools firewall plus, Antivirus and
>>>> Threatfire -all free.
>>>
>>>Computer vendors have partner agreements with many companies. I assume
>>>Dell
>>>is being paid for placing Norton's software on their computers.
>>
>> What a NOVEL idea! I wonder if other manufacturer's have caught on to
>> that!?


Kayman 01-17-2009 05:39 AM

Re: Norton
 
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:15:11 -0500, Van Chocstraw wrote:
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> Why does Norton always come with Windows laptops?
A very useful application for any *new* pc is the PC Decrapifier, it
attempts to remove all of the crap on your PC that you never asked for
http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/
http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/removes
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> I wipe that off and put on PCTools firewall plus, Antivirus and
> Threatfire -all free.
Consider this:
You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in
itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using.
Managing the Windows Vista Firewall
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc510323.aspx
(Read in its entirety, twice!)

Avira AntiVir® Personal - FREE Antivirus
http://www.free-av.com/
(The free version won't scan your emails.)
Why You Don't Need Your Anti-Virus Program to Scan Your E-Mail
http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tuto...ning/index.htm
Ensure your e-mail program is configured to display e-mail messages in
'Plain Text' only.
You may wish to consider removing the 'AntiVir Nagscreen'
http://www.elitekiller.com/files/dis...ntivir_nag.htm

Windows Defender (build-in in Vista)
WD monitors the start-registry and hooks registers/files to prevent spyware
and worms to install to the OS.
Interesting reading:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html
"...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects
changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about
the actual threat."

On-demand applications:

Malwarebytes© Corporation - Anti-Malware
http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam/program/mbam-setup.exe
--and--
SuperAntispyware - Free
http://www.superantispyware.com/down...NTISPYWAREFREE

Routinely practice Safe-Hex.
http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html
Hundreds Click on 'Click Here to Get Infected' Ad
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2132447,00.asp

Good luck :)

Richard Urban 01-17-2009 05:51 AM

Re: Norton
 
Hey! My Daughter In Law just got a new Compaq laptop yesterday. She called
me to find out why some piece of crapware wasn't on HER computer when it
was, in fact, on her girl friends Dell computer. It seems that she expected
the same "programs" and thought they all came with Vista.

So yes, I expect silly questions and comments.

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP
Windows Desktop Experience


"Hank J." <henry@doctorjeckyl.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:45:33 -0500, "Richard Urban"
> <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
Quote:

>>They all do it. The computer manufacturers put on the software of the
>>company that pays them the most.
>>
>>No matter how you slice it, it still is crapware!
>
> You thought I was being SERIOUS?
>
Quote:

>>"Hank J." <henry@doctorjeckyl.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:04i2n49s3rrnbqu9ae7vj449am59vt934e@4ax.com. ..
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>>> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:34:05 -0500, "C.B."
>>> <notreallyc.b.mullen@windowslive.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Van Chocstraw" <boobooililililil@roadrunner.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:W8WdnZP8xtGtouzUnZ2dnUVZ_rTinZ2d@giganews .com...
>>>>> Why does Norton always come with Windows laptops?
>>>>> I wipe that off and put on PCTools firewall plus, Antivirus and
>>>>> Threatfire -all free.
>>>>
>>>>Computer vendors have partner agreements with many companies. I assume
>>>>Dell
>>>>is being paid for placing Norton's software on their computers.
>>>
>>> What a NOVEL idea! I wonder if other manufacturer's have caught on to
>>> that!?




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