NTFS Security

Posted: 11-07-2006, 03:24 AM
If you want to add a bit of security to your Vista system AND have another
Windows OS installed, I'd recommend installing the other Windows OS onto a
Fat32 partition. This way if someone else uses your computer and you don't
want them to use Vista, or they don't want to use Vista, they wont be able to
see your files because you're Vista install is going to be installed in NTFS
right!?

There is so many ways and other OS's that can read NTFS, but a Windows
system in Fat32 cannot read NTFS. If you want another layer of security,
create separate accounts for yourself and other users of your Windows system,
also you can install some sort of file encryption software to use on your
personal files for even more security.
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Re: NTFS Security
Posted: 11-07-2006, 05:24 AM
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Super Antispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/
Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com
Panda online AntiSpyware Scan
http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/
Catalog of removal tools (1)
http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
Catalog of removal tools (2)
http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387
Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
Cool Web Shredder http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/
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"Spot" <Spot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> If you want to add a bit of security to your Vista system AND have another
> Windows OS installed, I'd recommend installing the other Windows OS onto a
> Fat32 partition. This way if someone else uses your computer and you don't
> want them to use Vista, or they don't want to use Vista, they wont be able
to
> see your files because you're Vista install is going to be installed in
NTFS
> right!?
>
> There is so many ways and other OS's that can read NTFS, but a Windows
> system in Fat32 cannot read NTFS.
http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilitie...Windows98.html wanna bet.
> If you want another layer of security,
> create separate accounts for yourself and other users of your Windows
system,
> also you can install some sort of file encryption software to use on your
> personal files for even more security.
> --
> esu lanoisseforp

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Re: NTFS Security
Posted: 11-08-2006, 05:23 PM
Can that program read/write to XP/Vista NTFS drives reguardless of
permissions as well? It only mentions NT/2000 and I can't really test it
since I don't have 98 anymore

I noticed that a limited account in XP (NTFS formatted) that the Vista
partition is pretty much protected, can't read the User Documents folders and
can't modify anything, which can be a really good thing. If you really wanted
to be able to, all that needs to be done is to log into XP's Admin and change
permissions, but by default I think that not being able to is a good security
choice.
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"AlmostBob" wrote:
> Inline
> --
> -
> Adaware http://www.lavasoft.de
> spybot http://www.safer-networking.org
> AVG free antivirus http://free.grisoft.com/
> Etrust/Vet/CA.online Antivirus scan
> http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/virusinfo/scan.aspx
> Super Antispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/
> Panda online AntiVirus scan http://www.activescan.com
> Panda online AntiSpyware Scan
> http://www.pandasoftware.com/virus_info/spyware/test/
> Catalog of removal tools (1)
> http://www.pandasoftware.com/download/utilities/
> Catalog of removal tools (2)
> http://www3.ca.com/securityadvisor/n...aspx?CID=40387
> Trouble Shooting guide to Windows http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/
> Blocking Unwanted Parasites with a Hosts file
> http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/hosts.htm
> Cool Web Shredder http://www.trendmicro.com/cwshredder/
> links provided as a courtesy, read all instructions on the pages before
> use
> Grateful thanks to the authors/webmasters
> _
> "Spot" <Spot@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A43C485C-BF9C-4525-9515-8C75997C4E21@microsoft.com...
> > If you want to add a bit of security to your Vista system AND have another
> > Windows OS installed, I'd recommend installing the other Windows OS onto a
> > Fat32 partition. This way if someone else uses your computer and you don't
> > want them to use Vista, or they don't want to use Vista, they wont be able
> to
> > see your files because you're Vista install is going to be installed in
> NTFS
> > right!?
> >
> > There is so many ways and other OS's that can read NTFS, but a Windows
> > system in Fat32 cannot read NTFS.
>
> http://www.sysinternals.com/Utilitie...Windows98.html wanna bet.
>
> > If you want another layer of security,
> > create separate accounts for yourself and other users of your Windows
> system,
> > also you can install some sort of file encryption software to use on your
> > personal files for even more security.
> > --
> > esu lanoisseforp
>
>
>
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Re: NTFS Security
Posted: 11-11-2006, 02:00 PM
Spot wrote:
> Can that program read/write to XP/Vista NTFS drives reguardless of
> permissions as well? It only mentions NT/2000 and I can't really test
> it since I don't have 98 anymore
Permissions are not some super secret forcefield that provides
cartoon-superhero strength protection to anyone who wears their
undergarments on top of their trousers and starts assigning permissions.
They are an operating system system convention that works very well inside
the operating system concerned but are no help against something working
outside the boundaries of the operating system.
> I noticed that a limited account in XP (NTFS formatted) that the Vista
> partition is pretty much protected, can't read the User Documents
> folders and can't modify anything, which can be a really good thing.
> If you really wanted to be able to, all that needs to be done is to
> log into XP's Admin and change permissions, but by default I think
> that not being able to is a good security choice.
Permissions are very good at what they do, but what they do isn't protect
you from people / systems that don't 'play by the rules'.


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Re: NTFS Security
Posted: 11-11-2006, 07:18 PM
"Permissions are very good at what they do, but what they do isn't protect
you from people / systems that don't 'play by the rules'. "

Well said. I wonder if there will ever be a built in check to verify
permissions, I mean built into the filesystem and works kind of like XOR
(Vernam) so that way information couldn't be read/wrote/uncorrupted without
the permission being given from having the passcode.
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"Robert Moir" wrote:
> Spot wrote:
> > Can that program read/write to XP/Vista NTFS drives reguardless of
> > permissions as well? It only mentions NT/2000 and I can't really test
> > it since I don't have 98 anymore
>
> Permissions are not some super secret forcefield that provides
> cartoon-superhero strength protection to anyone who wears their
> undergarments on top of their trousers and starts assigning permissions.
> They are an operating system system convention that works very well inside
> the operating system concerned but are no help against something working
> outside the boundaries of the operating system.
>
> > I noticed that a limited account in XP (NTFS formatted) that the Vista
> > partition is pretty much protected, can't read the User Documents
> > folders and can't modify anything, which can be a really good thing.
> > If you really wanted to be able to, all that needs to be done is to
> > log into XP's Admin and change permissions, but by default I think
> > that not being able to is a good security choice.
>
> Permissions are very good at what they do, but what they do isn't protect
> you from people / systems that don't 'play by the rules'.
>
>
>
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Re: NTFS Security
Posted: 11-12-2006, 01:16 PM
Spot wrote:
> "Permissions are very good at what they do, but what they do isn't
> protect you from people / systems that don't 'play by the rules'. "
>
> Well said. I wonder if there will ever be a built in check to verify
> permissions, I mean built into the filesystem and works kind of like
> XOR (Vernam) so that way information couldn't be
> read/wrote/uncorrupted without the permission being given from having
> the passcode.
Bitlocker maybe?


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