OneCare printer sharing - outside the circle

Posted: 01-04-2008, 03:49 AM
I have an older iMac that is not running OneCare and is outside my OneCare
circle. I have a new Vista PC which is running OneCare and has an attached,
shared printer. I can not get the iMac to add this shared this printer.
Every time I try to add it from my iMac, I get Error: 256, "Unable to connect
to server with the provided password and user name."

The OneCare chat agent said it was because the iMac is outside of my OneCare
circle. How can I get OneCare out of my Vista printer sharing capabilities?
Had I known, I doubt I would have purchased and installed OneCare. This
stinks!!!

OneCare printer sharing - outside the circle


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StephenB
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Re: OneCare printer sharing - outside the circle
Posted: 01-04-2008, 10:03 AM
calm-cast <calmcast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>I have an older iMac that is not running OneCare and is outside my OneCare
>circle. I have a new Vista PC which is running OneCare and has an attached,
>shared printer. I can not get the iMac to add this shared this printer.
>Every time I try to add it from my iMac, I get Error: 256, "Unable to connect
>to server with the provided password and user name."
>
>The OneCare chat agent said it was because the iMac is outside of my OneCare
>circle. How can I get OneCare out of my Vista printer sharing capabilities?
>Had I known, I doubt I would have purchased and installed OneCare. This
>stinks!!!
OneCare simply expands on the basic Printer Sharing functionality in Windows. It
cannot share a printer to a non Windows PC and it can't share a printer between
32 bit and 64 bit machines due to the way drivers work. In these cases, you
simply need to share the printer *manually* as if OneCare were not installed.

Your problem is not OneCare, but Sharing from Vista to the Mac.

See if this helps -
http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.c...1410039&page=1

and
http://forums.macosxhints.com/archiv...p/t-71019.html
-steve
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Malke
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Re: OneCare printer sharing - outside the circle
Posted: 01-04-2008, 02:23 PM
StephenB wrote:
> calm-cast <calmcast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> I have an older iMac that is not running OneCare and is outside my OneCare
>> circle. I have a new Vista PC which is running OneCare and has an attached,
>> shared printer. I can not get the iMac to add this shared this printer.
>> Every time I try to add it from my iMac, I get Error: 256, "Unable to connect
>> to server with the provided password and user name."
>>
>> The OneCare chat agent said it was because the iMac is outside of my OneCare
>> circle. How can I get OneCare out of my Vista printer sharing capabilities?
>> Had I known, I doubt I would have purchased and installed OneCare. This
>> stinks!!!
>
> OneCare simply expands on the basic Printer Sharing functionality in Windows. It
> cannot share a printer to a non Windows PC and it can't share a printer between
> 32 bit and 64 bit machines due to the way drivers work. In these cases, you
> simply need to share the printer *manually* as if OneCare were not installed.
>
> Your problem is not OneCare, but Sharing from Vista to the Mac.
(snippage)

Actually Stephen, the problem *is* OneCare. The OP and I had a rather
long thread about his issues and he has done everything he needs to
regarding sharing between OS X and Vista.

Calm-cast - You will recall that the last thing I said to you was that
if you had third-party security software to uninstall it. I am now
telling you to do this with OneCare. If the network now works, you have
your answer. I would not recommend reinstalling it since the antivirus
component of OneCare is substandard and the built-in Windows Firewall is
just fine for your purposes.


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Re: OneCare printer sharing - outside the circle
Posted: 01-04-2008, 05:04 PM
I often refer to the tips and advice given here for Vista/Mac sharing
issues:
http://tech.ifelix.net/windowsvista.html


"Malke" <notreally@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> StephenB wrote:
>> calm-cast <calmcast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have an older iMac that is not running OneCare and is outside my
>>> OneCare circle. I have a new Vista PC which is running OneCare and has
>>> an attached, shared printer. I can not get the iMac to add this shared
>>> this printer. Every time I try to add it from my iMac, I get Error:
>>> 256, "Unable to connect to server with the provided password and user
>>> name."
>>>
>>> The OneCare chat agent said it was because the iMac is outside of my
>>> OneCare circle. How can I get OneCare out of my Vista printer sharing
>>> capabilities? Had I known, I doubt I would have purchased and installed
>>> OneCare. This stinks!!!
>>
>> OneCare simply expands on the basic Printer Sharing functionality in
>> Windows. It
>> cannot share a printer to a non Windows PC and it can't share a printer
>> between
>> 32 bit and 64 bit machines due to the way drivers work. In these cases,
>> you
>> simply need to share the printer *manually* as if OneCare were not
>> installed.
>>
>> Your problem is not OneCare, but Sharing from Vista to the Mac.
>
> (snippage)
>
> Actually Stephen, the problem *is* OneCare. The OP and I had a rather long
> thread about his issues and he has done everything he needs to regarding
> sharing between OS X and Vista.
>
> Calm-cast - You will recall that the last thing I said to you was that if
> you had third-party security software to uninstall it. I am now telling
> you to do this with OneCare. If the network now works, you have your
> answer. I would not recommend reinstalling it since the antivirus
> component of OneCare is substandard and the built-in Windows Firewall is
> just fine for your purposes.
>
>
> Malke
> --
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Re: OneCare printer sharing - outside the circle
Posted: 01-04-2008, 11:26 PM
Malke <notreally@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>StephenB wrote:
>> calm-cast <calmcast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have an older iMac that is not running OneCare and is outside my OneCare
>>> circle. I have a new Vista PC which is running OneCare and has an attached,
>>> shared printer. I can not get the iMac to add this shared this printer.
>>> Every time I try to add it from my iMac, I get Error: 256, "Unable to connect
>>> to server with the provided password and user name."
>>>
>>> The OneCare chat agent said it was because the iMac is outside of my OneCare
>>> circle. How can I get OneCare out of my Vista printer sharing capabilities?
>>> Had I known, I doubt I would have purchased and installed OneCare. This
>>> stinks!!!
>>
>> OneCare simply expands on the basic Printer Sharing functionality in Windows. It
>> cannot share a printer to a non Windows PC and it can't share a printer between
>> 32 bit and 64 bit machines due to the way drivers work. In these cases, you
>> simply need to share the printer *manually* as if OneCare were not installed.
>>
>> Your problem is not OneCare, but Sharing from Vista to the Mac.
>
>(snippage)
>
>Actually Stephen, the problem *is* OneCare. The OP and I had a rather
>long thread about his issues and he has done everything he needs to
>regarding sharing between OS X and Vista.
>
>Calm-cast - You will recall that the last thing I said to you was that
>if you had third-party security software to uninstall it. I am now
>telling you to do this with OneCare. If the network now works, you have
>your answer. I would not recommend reinstalling it since the antivirus
>component of OneCare is substandard and the built-in Windows Firewall is
>just fine for your purposes.
>
>
>Malke
Thanks for the additional information, though I'm not sure that I would agree
with the "substandard" assessment of OneCare. It is not the best in class, but
it isn't what I'd term "substandard," perhaps "average." And the Windows
firewall is great for protecting inbound, but does nothing about outbound
activity.
However, I'll certainly defer to you regarding the printer sharing from Vista to
Mac as I have no experience in this area. Since this thread mentioned Printer
Sharing as the feature within OneCare, the answer is that OneCare won't share a
printer with a Mac. It can allow or disallow File and Printer Sharing in the
firewall settings, but the new 2.0 function of sharing printers more easily
depends on multiple PCs on the same subscription in a "Circle" and automatically
offers to share printers. Since OneCare doesn't run on a Mac, this feature of
OneCare is not available in this scenario.
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calm-cast
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Re: OneCare printer sharing - outside the circle
Posted: 01-05-2008, 08:37 PM
Malke, thanks again. StephenB, I appreciate your assistance as well.

I really find it hard to believe that OneCare would be so overcontrolling of
printers. Is there a way to raise this to the OneCare techs at Microsoft?
This 'feature' is causing me to abandon their product.



"Malke" wrote:
> StephenB wrote:
> > calm-cast <calmcast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I have an older iMac that is not running OneCare and is outside my OneCare
> >> circle. I have a new Vista PC which is running OneCare and has an attached,
> >> shared printer. I can not get the iMac to add this shared this printer.
> >> Every time I try to add it from my iMac, I get Error: 256, "Unable to connect
> >> to server with the provided password and user name."
> >>
> >> The OneCare chat agent said it was because the iMac is outside of my OneCare
> >> circle. How can I get OneCare out of my Vista printer sharing capabilities?
> >> Had I known, I doubt I would have purchased and installed OneCare. This
> >> stinks!!!
> >
> > OneCare simply expands on the basic Printer Sharing functionality in Windows. It
> > cannot share a printer to a non Windows PC and it can't share a printer between
> > 32 bit and 64 bit machines due to the way drivers work. In these cases, you
> > simply need to share the printer *manually* as if OneCare were not installed.
> >
> > Your problem is not OneCare, but Sharing from Vista to the Mac.
>
> (snippage)
>
> Actually Stephen, the problem *is* OneCare. The OP and I had a rather
> long thread about his issues and he has done everything he needs to
> regarding sharing between OS X and Vista.
>
> Calm-cast - You will recall that the last thing I said to you was that
> if you had third-party security software to uninstall it. I am now
> telling you to do this with OneCare. If the network now works, you have
> your answer. I would not recommend reinstalling it since the antivirus
> component of OneCare is substandard and the built-in Windows Firewall is
> just fine for your purposes.
>
>
> Malke
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> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>
StephenB
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Re: OneCare printer sharing - outside the circle
Posted: 01-06-2008, 01:35 AM
You're welcome, but I'm not sure why you think that Onecare is overcontrolling
of printers. In fact, it doesn't control them at all. OneCare v2 has a feature
to help people share a printer easily without needing to know how to configure
File and Printer sharing. You can ignore this feature completely if you are
manually configuring File and Printer sharing.
-steve


calm-cast <calmcast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>Malke, thanks again. StephenB, I appreciate your assistance as well.
>
>I really find it hard to believe that OneCare would be so overcontrolling of
>printers. Is there a way to raise this to the OneCare techs at Microsoft?
>This 'feature' is causing me to abandon their product.
>
>
>
>"Malke" wrote:
>
>> StephenB wrote:
>> > calm-cast <calmcast@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I have an older iMac that is not running OneCare and is outside my OneCare
>> >> circle. I have a new Vista PC which is running OneCare and has an attached,
>> >> shared printer. I can not get the iMac to add this shared this printer.
>> >> Every time I try to add it from my iMac, I get Error: 256, "Unable to connect
>> >> to server with the provided password and user name."
>> >>
>> >> The OneCare chat agent said it was because the iMac is outside of my OneCare
>> >> circle. How can I get OneCare out of my Vista printer sharing capabilities?
>> >> Had I known, I doubt I would have purchased and installed OneCare. This
>> >> stinks!!!
>> >
>> > OneCare simply expands on the basic Printer Sharing functionality in Windows. It
>> > cannot share a printer to a non Windows PC and it can't share a printer between
>> > 32 bit and 64 bit machines due to the way drivers work. In these cases, you
>> > simply need to share the printer *manually* as if OneCare were not installed.
>> >
>> > Your problem is not OneCare, but Sharing from Vista to the Mac.
>>
>> (snippage)
>>
>> Actually Stephen, the problem *is* OneCare. The OP and I had a rather
>> long thread about his issues and he has done everything he needs to
>> regarding sharing between OS X and Vista.
>>
>> Calm-cast - You will recall that the last thing I said to you was that
>> if you had third-party security software to uninstall it. I am now
>> telling you to do this with OneCare. If the network now works, you have
>> your answer. I would not recommend reinstalling it since the antivirus
>> component of OneCare is substandard and the built-in Windows Firewall is
>> just fine for your purposes.
>>
>>
>> Malke
>> --
>> Elephant Boy Computers
>> www.elephantboycomputers.com
>> "Don't Panic!"
>> MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
>>
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