Powerdown problem

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:20:56 +0100, "Peter" <peter.newsuser@talk21.com>
wrote:

Peter:

When you reinstalled XP Pro you may have had ACPI turned off in CMOS
setup. For what ever reason, installation did not install the "ACPI
computer" HAL, therefore you will not be able to use "Standby" and you
may have difficulty shutting down. However, if the "Standard PC" HAL
was used as you say, you should have the APM button that Sharon
mentioned. Make sure APM has not been turned off in CMOS setup.

You might want to reinstall XP Pro again after you have checked the
above items. Do a repair install - during which if you're sure your
machine can support ACPI, you can selectively install the ACPI HAL
when the install program asks if you have additional drivers to
install. When that appears on the screen, press F6 and then scroll
to the correct ACPI HAL and select it for install. Be sure you select
the correct one - go through all selections before choosing.

>Hi Sharon
> There is no APM tab on the power options, just "Power Schemes ,
>Advanced, Hibernate and UPS" In advanced it has two drop down boxes for
>Turn off Monitor and Turn off Hard drive, but whatever they are set to seems
>to have no effect on the machine. There is certainly no mention of APM
>anywhere in power options.
>Thanks for trying
>Peter
>
>"sharon" <mail@nospamccmua.org> wrote in message
>news:019e01c35de0$61979f50$a401280a@phx.gbl...

>> Is this system a couple of years old? If so, go to
>> Control panel - Power Options. Do you see a tab headed
>> APM? Select it. Click to put a check in the box next to
>> Enable Advanced Power Management support. It should shut
>> down correctly after that.
>>

>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >Hi Guys,
>> >I recently had to re install XPpro on my machine and

>> whereas the machine

>> >used to switch itself off it now just sits there

>> with "It is now safe to

>> >turn off your Computer" I have been to Device manager

>> and under "Computer"

>> >it says just "Standard PC" which I believe means it has

>> not recognised the

>> >M/B's ability to handle advanced power options? It used

>> to work OK so I know

>> >the M/B does support powerdown. Also I can no longer put

>> the monitor into

>> >standby with Screen saver Monitor power options? I guess

>> that is part of the

>> >same thing. I imagine I might get it back if I re

>> install XP Pro again but I

>> >really don't want to do that if there is an alternative.

>> Any ideas or

>> >suggestions would be welcomed.
>> >Thanks in advance
>> >
>> >Peter
>> >
>> >
>> >.
>> >

>

Hi CS,
I did go into the BIOS to check that Power management was switched on in
the setup, it was, so I have no idea why it was not recognised when I did
the re install. Is there no way the ACPI HAL can be installed once windows
is set up?

Peter


"CS" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ui28jvohviac15ge7bdl727ajerh41n646@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:20:56 +0100, "Peter" <peter.newsuser@talk21.com>
> wrote:
>
> Peter:
>
> When you reinstalled XP Pro you may have had ACPI turned off in CMOS
> setup. For what ever reason, installation did not install the "ACPI
> computer" HAL, therefore you will not be able to use "Standby" and you
> may have difficulty shutting down. However, if the "Standard PC" HAL
> was used as you say, you should have the APM button that Sharon
> mentioned. Make sure APM has not been turned off in CMOS setup.
>
> You might want to reinstall XP Pro again after you have checked the
> above items. Do a repair install - during which if you're sure your
> machine can support ACPI, you can selectively install the ACPI HAL
> when the install program asks if you have additional drivers to
> install. When that appears on the screen, press F6 and then scroll
> to the correct ACPI HAL and select it for install. Be sure you select
> the correct one - go through all selections before choosing.
>
>
>
>

> >Hi Sharon
> > There is no APM tab on the power options, just "Power Schemes ,
> >Advanced, Hibernate and UPS" In advanced it has two drop down boxes for
> >Turn off Monitor and Turn off Hard drive, but whatever they are set to

seems

> >to have no effect on the machine. There is certainly no mention of APM
> >anywhere in power options.
> >Thanks for trying
> >Peter
> >
> >"sharon" <mail@nospamccmua.org> wrote in message
> >news:019e01c35de0$61979f50$a401280a@phx.gbl...

> >> Is this system a couple of years old? If so, go to
> >> Control panel - Power Options. Do you see a tab headed
> >> APM? Select it. Click to put a check in the box next to
> >> Enable Advanced Power Management support. It should shut
> >> down correctly after that.
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >Hi Guys,
> >> >I recently had to re install XPpro on my machine and
> >> whereas the machine
> >> >used to switch itself off it now just sits there
> >> with "It is now safe to
> >> >turn off your Computer" I have been to Device manager
> >> and under "Computer"
> >> >it says just "Standard PC" which I believe means it has
> >> not recognised the
> >> >M/B's ability to handle advanced power options? It used
> >> to work OK so I know
> >> >the M/B does support powerdown. Also I can no longer put
> >> the monitor into
> >> >standby with Screen saver Monitor power options? I guess
> >> that is part of the
> >> >same thing. I imagine I might get it back if I re
> >> install XP Pro again but I
> >> >really don't want to do that if there is an alternative.
> >> Any ideas or
> >> >suggestions would be welcomed.
> >> >Thanks in advance
> >> >
> >> >Peter
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >.
> >> >

> >

>

On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 21:59:03 +0100, "Peter" <peter.newsuser@talk21.com>
wrote:

Hello Peter:

Once the "Standard PC" HAL has been installed, the only way to switch
to an "ACPI HAL" is to reinstall. There are far too many hardware
enumerations that have to be setup in the registry. If you attempt to
switch HALs via the Device Manager Hardware properties dialog, the
system will most likely hang and not boot.

I'm currently using the "Standard PC HAL" on my desktop computer at
home along with APM. There are far fewer problems encountered with
drivers, software, etc. that might be incompatible with ACPI. The
downside is no IRQ sharing or a true standby function. You might
want to consider leaving well enough alone rather than reinstall.

>Hi CS,
> I did go into the BIOS to check that Power management was switched on in
>the setup, it was, so I have no idea why it was not recognised when I did
>the re install. Is there no way the ACPI HAL can be installed once windows
>is set up?
>
>Peter
>
>
>"CS" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:ui28jvohviac15ge7bdl727ajerh41n646@4ax.com.. .

>> On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:20:56 +0100, "Peter" <peter.newsuser@talk21.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Peter:
>>
>> When you reinstalled XP Pro you may have had ACPI turned off in CMOS
>> setup. For what ever reason, installation did not install the "ACPI
>> computer" HAL, therefore you will not be able to use "Standby" and you
>> may have difficulty shutting down. However, if the "Standard PC" HAL
>> was used as you say, you should have the APM button that Sharon
>> mentioned. Make sure APM has not been turned off in CMOS setup.
>>
>> You might want to reinstall XP Pro again after you have checked the
>> above items. Do a repair install - during which if you're sure your
>> machine can support ACPI, you can selectively install the ACPI HAL
>> when the install program asks if you have additional drivers to
>> install. When that appears on the screen, press F6 and then scroll
>> to the correct ACPI HAL and select it for install. Be sure you select
>> the correct one - go through all selections before choosing.
>>
>>
>>
>>

>> >Hi Sharon
>> > There is no APM tab on the power options, just "Power Schemes ,
>> >Advanced, Hibernate and UPS" In advanced it has two drop down boxes for
>> >Turn off Monitor and Turn off Hard drive, but whatever they are set to

>seems

>> >to have no effect on the machine. There is certainly no mention of APM
>> >anywhere in power options.
>> >Thanks for trying
>> >Peter
>> >
>> >"sharon" <mail@nospamccmua.org> wrote in message
>> >news:019e01c35de0$61979f50$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>> >> Is this system a couple of years old? If so, go to
>> >> Control panel - Power Options. Do you see a tab headed
>> >> APM? Select it. Click to put a check in the box next to
>> >> Enable Advanced Power Management support. It should shut
>> >> down correctly after that.
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >Hi Guys,
>> >> >I recently had to re install XPpro on my machine and
>> >> whereas the machine
>> >> >used to switch itself off it now just sits there
>> >> with "It is now safe to
>> >> >turn off your Computer" I have been to Device manager
>> >> and under "Computer"
>> >> >it says just "Standard PC" which I believe means it has
>> >> not recognised the
>> >> >M/B's ability to handle advanced power options? It used
>> >> to work OK so I know
>> >> >the M/B does support powerdown. Also I can no longer put
>> >> the monitor into
>> >> >standby with Screen saver Monitor power options? I guess
>> >> that is part of the
>> >> >same thing. I imagine I might get it back if I re
>> >> install XP Pro again but I
>> >> >really don't want to do that if there is an alternative.
>> >> Any ideas or
>> >> >suggestions would be welcomed.
>> >> >Thanks in advance
>> >> >
>> >> >Peter
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >.
>> >> >
>> >

>>

>

Hi CS,
I shall have to give it some thought, I would like the machine to switch
itself off but can I be bothered to go through all of the re installing??
Thank you very much for your input on the matter, I had a feeling it could
be a deep rooted piece of XP that could not just be added, and thanks for
confirming that for me. A colleague had suggested that it was just a case of
copying an acpi hal.dll into the system32 directory but I had severe
misgivings about his suggestion. I am still not sure when the "if you have
additional drivers to install. " part of the install happens ( Sharon's
post), I don't seem to remember ever seeing it in any installations I have
ever done, but I suppose I have never looked for it?
Well thanks everyone for your help
Peter

"CS" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ejj8jvs177q3kne6qjvb6jv3et8p8184de@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 21:59:03 +0100, "Peter" <peter.newsuser@talk21.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Peter:
>
> Once the "Standard PC" HAL has been installed, the only way to switch
> to an "ACPI HAL" is to reinstall. There are far too many hardware
> enumerations that have to be setup in the registry. If you attempt to
> switch HALs via the Device Manager Hardware properties dialog, the
> system will most likely hang and not boot.
>
> I'm currently using the "Standard PC HAL" on my desktop computer at
> home along with APM. There are far fewer problems encountered with
> drivers, software, etc. that might be incompatible with ACPI. The
> downside is no IRQ sharing or a true standby function. You might
> want to consider leaving well enough alone rather than reinstall.
>

> >Hi CS,
> > I did go into the BIOS to check that Power management was switched on

in

> >the setup, it was, so I have no idea why it was not recognised when I did
> >the re install. Is there no way the ACPI HAL can be installed once

windows

> >is set up?
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >
> >"CS" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:ui28jvohviac15ge7bdl727ajerh41n646@4ax.com.. .

> >> On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:20:56 +0100, "Peter" <peter.newsuser@talk21.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Peter:
> >>
> >> When you reinstalled XP Pro you may have had ACPI turned off in CMOS
> >> setup. For what ever reason, installation did not install the "ACPI
> >> computer" HAL, therefore you will not be able to use "Standby" and you
> >> may have difficulty shutting down. However, if the "Standard PC" HAL
> >> was used as you say, you should have the APM button that Sharon
> >> mentioned. Make sure APM has not been turned off in CMOS setup.
> >>
> >> You might want to reinstall XP Pro again after you have checked the
> >> above items. Do a repair install - during which if you're sure your
> >> machine can support ACPI, you can selectively install the ACPI HAL
> >> when the install program asks if you have additional drivers to
> >> install. When that appears on the screen, press F6 and then scroll
> >> to the correct ACPI HAL and select it for install. Be sure you select
> >> the correct one - go through all selections before choosing.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >Hi Sharon
> >> > There is no APM tab on the power options, just "Power Schemes ,
> >> >Advanced, Hibernate and UPS" In advanced it has two drop down boxes

for

> >> >Turn off Monitor and Turn off Hard drive, but whatever they are set to

> >seems

> >> >to have no effect on the machine. There is certainly no mention of APM
> >> >anywhere in power options.
> >> >Thanks for trying
> >> >Peter
> >> >
> >> >"sharon" <mail@nospamccmua.org> wrote in message
> >> >news:019e01c35de0$61979f50$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> >> >> Is this system a couple of years old? If so, go to
> >> >> Control panel - Power Options. Do you see a tab headed
> >> >> APM? Select it. Click to put a check in the box next to
> >> >> Enable Advanced Power Management support. It should shut
> >> >> down correctly after that.
> >> >>
> >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >Hi Guys,
> >> >> >I recently had to re install XPpro on my machine and
> >> >> whereas the machine
> >> >> >used to switch itself off it now just sits there
> >> >> with "It is now safe to
> >> >> >turn off your Computer" I have been to Device manager
> >> >> and under "Computer"
> >> >> >it says just "Standard PC" which I believe means it has
> >> >> not recognised the
> >> >> >M/B's ability to handle advanced power options? It used
> >> >> to work OK so I know
> >> >> >the M/B does support powerdown. Also I can no longer put
> >> >> the monitor into
> >> >> >standby with Screen saver Monitor power options? I guess
> >> >> that is part of the
> >> >> >same thing. I imagine I might get it back if I re
> >> >> install XP Pro again but I
> >> >> >really don't want to do that if there is an alternative.
> >> >> Any ideas or
> >> >> >suggestions would be welcomed.
> >> >> >Thanks in advance
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Peter
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >.
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >>

> >

>

Hi guys,
Just for information, I found a Microsoft KB article 810903 and followed the
path suggested there to disable the Microsoft ACPI driver and install the NT
APM/Legacy Support driver, worked a treat. So I am up and running again with
my powerdown working properly.
Once again thanks for your help
Peter

"Peter" <peter.newsuser@talk21.com> wrote in message
news:Ol%23livlXDHA.2032@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

> Hi CS,
> I shall have to give it some thought, I would like the machine to switch
> itself off but can I be bothered to go through all of the re installing??
> Thank you very much for your input on the matter, I had a feeling it could
> be a deep rooted piece of XP that could not just be added, and thanks for
> confirming that for me. A colleague had suggested that it was just a case

of

> copying an acpi hal.dll into the system32 directory but I had severe
> misgivings about his suggestion. I am still not sure when the "if you have
> additional drivers to install. " part of the install happens ( Sharon's
> post), I don't seem to remember ever seeing it in any installations I have
> ever done, but I suppose I have never looked for it?
> Well thanks everyone for your help
> Peter
>
> "CS" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ejj8jvs177q3kne6qjvb6jv3et8p8184de@4ax.com...

> > On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 21:59:03 +0100, "Peter" <peter.newsuser@talk21.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello Peter:
> >
> > Once the "Standard PC" HAL has been installed, the only way to switch
> > to an "ACPI HAL" is to reinstall. There are far too many hardware
> > enumerations that have to be setup in the registry. If you attempt to
> > switch HALs via the Device Manager Hardware properties dialog, the
> > system will most likely hang and not boot.
> >
> > I'm currently using the "Standard PC HAL" on my desktop computer at
> > home along with APM. There are far fewer problems encountered with
> > drivers, software, etc. that might be incompatible with ACPI. The
> > downside is no IRQ sharing or a true standby function. You might
> > want to consider leaving well enough alone rather than reinstall.
> >

> > >Hi CS,
> > > I did go into the BIOS to check that Power management was switched

on

> in

> > >the setup, it was, so I have no idea why it was not recognised when I

did

> > >the re install. Is there no way the ACPI HAL can be installed once

> windows

> > >is set up?
> > >
> > >Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >"CS" <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > >news:ui28jvohviac15ge7bdl727ajerh41n646@4ax.com.. .
> > >> On Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:20:56 +0100, "Peter"

<peter.newsuser@talk21.com>

> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Peter:
> > >>
> > >> When you reinstalled XP Pro you may have had ACPI turned off in CMOS
> > >> setup. For what ever reason, installation did not install the "ACPI
> > >> computer" HAL, therefore you will not be able to use "Standby" and

you

> > >> may have difficulty shutting down. However, if the "Standard PC"

HAL

> > >> was used as you say, you should have the APM button that Sharon
> > >> mentioned. Make sure APM has not been turned off in CMOS setup.
> > >>
> > >> You might want to reinstall XP Pro again after you have checked the
> > >> above items. Do a repair install - during which if you're sure your
> > >> machine can support ACPI, you can selectively install the ACPI HAL
> > >> when the install program asks if you have additional drivers to
> > >> install. When that appears on the screen, press F6 and then scroll
> > >> to the correct ACPI HAL and select it for install. Be sure you

select

> > >> the correct one - go through all selections before choosing.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >Hi Sharon
> > >> > There is no APM tab on the power options, just "Power Schemes ,
> > >> >Advanced, Hibernate and UPS" In advanced it has two drop down boxes

> for

> > >> >Turn off Monitor and Turn off Hard drive, but whatever they are set

to

> > >seems
> > >> >to have no effect on the machine. There is certainly no mention of

APM

> > >> >anywhere in power options.
> > >> >Thanks for trying
> > >> >Peter
> > >> >
> > >> >"sharon" <mail@nospamccmua.org> wrote in message
> > >> >news:019e01c35de0$61979f50$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> > >> >> Is this system a couple of years old? If so, go to
> > >> >> Control panel - Power Options. Do you see a tab headed
> > >> >> APM? Select it. Click to put a check in the box next to
> > >> >> Enable Advanced Power Management support. It should shut
> > >> >> down correctly after that.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >-----Original Message-----
> > >> >> >Hi Guys,
> > >> >> >I recently had to re install XPpro on my machine and
> > >> >> whereas the machine
> > >> >> >used to switch itself off it now just sits there
> > >> >> with "It is now safe to
> > >> >> >turn off your Computer" I have been to Device manager
> > >> >> and under "Computer"
> > >> >> >it says just "Standard PC" which I believe means it has
> > >> >> not recognised the
> > >> >> >M/B's ability to handle advanced power options? It used
> > >> >> to work OK so I know
> > >> >> >the M/B does support powerdown. Also I can no longer put
> > >> >> the monitor into
> > >> >> >standby with Screen saver Monitor power options? I guess
> > >> >> that is part of the
> > >> >> >same thing. I imagine I might get it back if I re
> > >> >> install XP Pro again but I
> > >> >> >really don't want to do that if there is an alternative.
> > >> >> Any ideas or
> > >> >> >suggestions would be welcomed.
> > >> >> >Thanks in advance
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Peter
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >

> >

>
>